Remove /b & /ooc

[Jokl]

• Who is the suggestion for?
  - All players

• Why is the suggestion being made?
  - There is so many situations where people jump straight into /b or /ooc after they get injured or something... You can see it on most POV's from the report forum and I experience it daily on my SD character. People will never learn that /pm exists. Also most gangs are factions now with the new system, so ONE PM to a faction member is enough, and faction chat can be used in infor regarding POV's and such is needed. I am also tired of going to crowdy places and 80% of chat is ooc chat. The lates footbal score, or how BF6 was and such.. people wont learn so I dont see another way then to remove it. 

• What are the pros and/or cons of the suggestion?
  - I see only pros, increases the immersion around the RP. If I want to look up this weekends Liverpool resaults I can go on livescore.com

• How should the suggestion be implemented?
  - Simply remove the /b and /ooc command. 

[Famingo]

agree

[Eliza]

I understand where this suggestion is coming from, and I do agree with some points, but i believe OOC chat still has a use, sometimes you need to communicate something to several players at once, I’m not talking about random off topic from RP conversations. I do think that OOC chat usage should be enforced a bit more stricter, at least in public spaces.

[Hanro]

Respectfully, -1. I don't think this should be considered, because I don't want this server to turn into FiveM with the whole "flex your ctrl x muscle" or similar related terms, where /b is useful in that aspect. You don't need to punish the server for individuals actions, stricter punishments should be enforced to keep standards.

[Jokl]

1 hour ago, Hanro said:

Respectfully, -1. I don't think this should be considered, because I don't want this server to turn into FiveM with the whole "flex your ctrl x muscle" or similar related terms, where /b is useful in that aspect. You don't need to punish the server for individuals actions, stricter punishments should be enforced to keep standards.

As I mentioned in my original post people dont know about /pm or are to lasy to use it.

/pm is a good thing, where u dont have to ruin stuff for the 17 other players present where you have to discuss/learn someome about the game oocly. /pm ID "MESSAGE" try using it, its handy. 

[Jordan]

2 hours ago, Jokl said:

As I mentioned in my original post people dont know about /pm or are to lasy to use it.

/pm is a good thing, where u dont have to ruin stuff for the 17 other players present where you have to discuss/learn someome about the game oocly. /pm ID "MESSAGE" try using it, its handy. 

Doesn't quite take into account when you need to tell multiple people something at once. No one wants to /pm multiple times.

[moment]

There's staff for a reason, an excessive OOC chat can be reported and punished accordingly.

[Requiem]

Use of /b and /ooc chat has applications where it can be useful, such as communicating with admin staff during a situation, multiple players working out OOC issues such as game disconnects or situations resets, etc. I generally agree with the OP that the overuse of OOC chat can be annoying and ruins immersion for RP, however, I do not believe removing OOC chat altogether is the correct solution. Players just need to learn to keep OOC chat to a minimum and only use it when necessary. 

[Chazaa]

We've all done it and we've all seen it, whenever something happens that someone isn't happy about it not going their way, particularly with LEO / criminal interactions, it always ends up immediately in /b. Now it might sound like a big change and a wild one at first but I believe if we remove /b, the general community would benefit. There's /pm's if you need to OOCly contact someone and if something is pressing enough that it needs intervention or to be paused, then use /report. I'm not aware of the size of the admin team, but if we have active moderators and admins then it shouldn't be a problem.

Hopefully it would take us a step closer to leaving behind this forum reporting craze that everyone loves to do these days.

[PenguWin]

+1

[Earl Mud]

-1 there is a rule about this already. /b isnt used solely for rulebreaks and it is hard to pm everyone in group settings. 

[Josh]

+1 

6 minutes ago, Earl Mud said:

-1 there is a rule about this already. /b isnt used solely for rulebreaks and it is hard to pm everyone in group settings. 

Sadly not many people follow said rule, there is constant number of times people do /b save Pov in a 1 on 1 interaction, aswell as start complaining or spamming /b. If people followed said rule there would not be this issue..

 

I do not want to make this a back and forth but this is my opinion. 

[Earl Mud]

Sounds like the issue is the rule enforcement. If we remove /b what do we do in larger group settings when it is to be used like raffles, sending links in mass, etc?

[Chazaa]

42 minutes ago, Earl Mud said:

Sounds like the issue is the rule enforcement. If we remove /b what do we do in larger group settings when it is to be used like raffles, sending links in mass, etc?

Discord or have moderators+ the only users with access to /b and they can announce something at an event. There's also lifeinvader for links, it doesn't all need to be in /b, a lot of servers operate well without it and ours is usually used for trash talk.

Perhaps if we weren't to fully remove it, there could be a cooldown introduced where you can send 1 /b message every 1 minute, 2 minutes, 5 minutes etc. I think the ultimate goal is to be able to have RP interactions without people constantly complaining in /b. 

[Reggie Chops]

-1 

Don't get me wrong, I definitely see where you're coming from but this doesn't take into account /b as a useful method for communicating. Sometimes it's easier to address everyone in an area, OOCly, in /b rather than PMing every single person - notably staff sits. Realistically, imagine a situation with 20+ and staff trying to communicate with everyone without /b. 

[Daxu]

-1 just need to enforce the toxicity rules and whatnot. /b is a great asset that sets apart OOC communication from IC actions. Especially for VOIP users it serves as a physical segmentation of the RP mentality from IRL--to drag you out of your character (ideally) if the need arises in the case of a potential rule break or question on mechanics. It also has a wide variety of general, RP-supporting uses that would ultimately be detrimental if /b were removed in favor of solely /pm's or other functions. 

[Eliza]

-1
I get the idea behind it but there's some situations where it becomes impossible to relay something to a large amount of people through just PMs, staff sits would be a giant PITA to gather information or communicate, I do think we could (and should) be more strict about the usage of /b, as at the end of the day should be only used whenever absolutely necessary, instead of discussing whatever TV show or movie you recently watched, as it can be disruptive to others RP. 

[SneakySniper]

-1 idk, like sometimes we r in a room of people who aren't necessarily all in the same faction, something could happen, or u just want to say something oocly, you wont be able to. I don't think the people who spam 'save pov' in /b every 5 mins should be the reason everyone else loses it. I think more strict use of /b should be enforced instead. 

Just a small example, if ur at an event and its time to go into the 'rigged raffle channel'. Its so much easier to do /b then anything else. Simple things like that will turn not so simple.

Edited October 14, 2025 by SneakySniper276

[Toxine]

Add a cooldown on /b's. 

60 seconds. 

Easy solution.

[PenguWin]

23 minutes ago, Toxine said:

Add a cooldown on /b's. 

60 seconds. 

Easy solution.

+1 for cooldowns on /b , have it around a minute or so. Either you say something important or you dont, prevents spam and ooc toxicity.

 

if there is an admin situation on going at a scene the pov of conflicting parties can be discussed in private with an admin.

Edited October 15, 2025 by PenguWin

[SteakHappy]

+1 and remove /PM as well.

The truth is, outside of cheating/desync reports, reports can be handled based on the clip of the reporting party. Servers hella toxic because we all interact with each other OOCly. Discord exists if we REALLY need to speak OOCly.

[Tony Steele]

+1

You should be IC all time, if there is something that needs to be taken OOCly, make an urgent report and, in an ideal world, an admin should come and take care. Maybe this will encourage admins to be more active. Otherwise you can take it to forums.

In case you are bugged , in the end you can also RP things to show that you are "unable" to do something because you are stucked in an animation for eg or you can just relog on the spot.

Also, in case you need to share something with a group, you have /fdo. Put a note. 

Everything has a solution, you are not limited by the use of /b

Edited October 15, 2025 by Tony Steele

[Trevor Zelias]

Removing /b also is bad because we had someone that was deaf and wrote in /b "im deaf please use text" and they would not be able to say that in a OOC way as it would be considered meta also. Just /b is a good thing to have

[Ritchie Stones]

On 10/14/2025 at 7:09 PM, Chazaa said:

We've all done it and we've all seen it, whenever something happens that someone isn't happy about it not going their way, particularly with LEO / criminal interactions, it always ends up immediately in /b. Now it might sound like a big change and a wild one at first but I believe if we remove /b, the general community would benefit. There's /pm's if you need to OOCly contact someone and if something is pressing enough that it needs intervention or to be paused, then use /report. I'm not aware of the size of the admin team, but if we have active moderators and admins then it shouldn't be a problem.

Hopefully it would take us a step closer to leaving behind this forum reporting craze that everyone loves to do these days.

if you want the whole city to lose connection with eachother in the blink of an eye ??? sure go ahead. 
there is no more connection between friends wanting some oc chat over stuff they cant say in game.
also next time something happens, you wil just find out in the report forums without you being able to defend yourself with your pov... because you could not safe it in the first place because we cant even tell you to save it. 

common sence amigo !!! XDXD

 

[Chazaa]

12 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

if you want the whole city to lose connection with eachother in the blink of an eye ??? sure go ahead. 
there is no more connection between friends wanting some oc chat over stuff they cant say in game.
also next time something happens, you wil just find out in the report forums without you being able to defend yourself with your pov... because you could not safe it in the first place because we cant even tell you to save it. 

common sence amigo !!! XDXD

 

You would still be able to communicate via /pm for OOC means. People don't use /b to have casual OOC chat and if anything, you're playing an RP server, you're on the server to play a character not have a chat that can happen on Discord so I find that argument to be very poor. The main issue with /b is that it has become a common breeding ground for toxicity and people spamming it when something doesn't go their way, trying to pause a scene which only Admins have the authority to do. Of course it would require the staff team to be actively in game to handle /reports, but there's actually no real need to have /b and many servers operate just fine without it. If not fully removing it, as I suggested further up, there could be a cooldown so people focus on the IC interactions, not use the server as an excuse for an OOC group chat or alternative for VRChat.

"common sence amigo !!! XDXD" - yeah, okay..