SteakHappy

+1, they're hilarious

-1 If there was A LOT more to do, I could agree. Unfortunately, the pickings are very slim so if I have 10 people on, we need to all 10 be able to do the same activity.

Burying the hatchet Conflict has always been part of the Mob’s DNA. From the early days of pushing smaller gangs for recognition to the well-oiled machine that they now command, bloodshed has followed the Eastside Mob like a shadow… an inevitable byproduct of dominance. Among all the battles fought and all the bodies left behind, one rivalry always stood above the rest: ESM vs. The Empire. For as long as both organizations have existed, their feud carved itself into the streets. Territory clashes, drug lab ambushes, ego-driven standoffs… every encounter ignited gunfire. There were no warnings, no negotiations, no “maybe this time.” Peace talks were nothing more than wasted breath. Any attempt at a ceasefire was eventually choked out by the next transgression from either side. Yet in the chaos of their ongoing conflict, an undeniable truth emerged: The Eastside Mob and The Empire became the two most dominant forces in the city, albeit on opposite sides of the fence. But the city changes, and anyone who understands real power knows that you must change with it. New organizations rose from the cracks, strong in their own right, hungry for territory and recognition. The old days of clean ESM vs. Empire shootouts were over. Every time the two titans clashed, a third party showed up, spoiling operations, disrupting business, and threatening the messy balance both sides had fought to create. At some point, the conflict stopped being profitable, and that’s when leaders start thinking instead of shooting. So the mob set the table. A High Command meeting at the Eastside Diner. Empire invited. No guns under the table. No shit-talking. Just food, discussion, and the rare sight of both sides dropping their pride long enough to glimpse the bigger picture. The proverbial hatchet was buried. The Eastside Mob and Empire will remain the city’s dominant forces, not as rivals… but as allies. A new era begins, and the city will remember it.

You have to be trolling

You're right. On a related note, I recommend that PD have to pay for their cruisers that they perma stall, their pay is cut by 50%, and they pay import price for their weapons. I do not play PD at all, but I somehow feel like I am informed enough to make these suggestions. (sarcasm, because someone will take that sentence seriously.) It IS cooked. Guns jamming when they're in the green, people coming back from temp bans to unrepairable weapons, generally not being able to keep a stash without spending a ton on repair kits, the general bugginess of the repair system itself not showing correct durability % etc etc... There is a reason the pop is so low, and it isn't that PD are leaving. Let's go ahead and nerf crims more.

Why do certain members of PD OOCly care how big our stashes are? How on God's green Earth does the durability of my guns affect Jason Steel, of all people? Anyways, no. It's already cooked, let's not make it worse.

#FreeTommyBean

Why does it say cocaine addict I saw that

Im worried about you plz call me

Amen

+1 and remove /PM as well. The truth is, outside of cheating/desync reports, reports can be handled based on the clip of the reporting party. Servers hella toxic because we all interact with each other OOCly. Discord exists if we REALLY need to speak OOCly.

Ah yes, I can't wait to pull into a lab, get shot to death on sight by a new player, and not have the ability to have my heavy in my vehicle refunded. At least the new player gets a punishment! Realistically, I dont think this would change much anyways. People report for more reasons than that they lost things. There are far more accepted reports than there are refund requests.

+1

Are you American? (genuine question.) He is 100% correct, you would likely be killed if you went into a bad neighborhood and started shit-talking an armed gang member in basically any big city lmao. Doesn't mean I agree that the server should operate on demands = dm rights. It should balance fun and realism, and being shot every 2 seconds isn't fun. There was a time when demands did = dm rights. It was changed for a reason.

I mean fair. I was just pointing out that bro was sorta stating the obvious, and the list doesn't show the full story. I have 5 reports against me, all denied. Ive reported 3 times in situations where I lost something, all accepted I think? If I report someone, and they were in the wrong and I get my stuff back, it's not a revenge report... Basically a list of "who reports/gets reported the most" is useless, was my point.

Breaking news: Most active criminals on the server account for most reports!

This just isn't true. There is still a large, thriving crim base on this server. ESM, OTF, Empire, 14k, Waterfelons, Rooks, Lost MC, Shadows, Souls, The Firm, Off-Grid... All very active crim factions. I can't speak to other factions, but I can tell you that my faction does actual crim grind both solo and as a group. I understand that we all want a change, but let's not be over-dramatic. Crim isn't dead, it just needs some big changes to push it away from the current meta of shoot and loot. The new xp update did a lot, and the leaderboard is quite active.

There’s a lot here. But overall +1.

Just here to +1 this, wdym I cant shoot if im in the same zip code as a Monstrocoti?

Well, that does make sense. I'm sure you can understand how it was related to the discussion without context. Thank god for Chatgpt, wasn't reading all that.

This cleared up 0 confusion, but I appreciate the attempt.

That is part of it. More of it, really, is just that there are a lot of people who log onto this server just to fight. I couldn't care less about being able to rob/kill people in non-isolated spots. I care about how often a gang member rolls up to a lab and goes "yo, let's take this fight elsewhere so cops don't hear," for example. It's weird, PVP mentality. I LIKE pvp. I just want it to have RP reasoning. The biggest problem with PVP is that it is the entire focus of the server (at least from the crim side.) Everything is a means to an end, which is a gunfight/loot. Agreed. So why isn't the server enforcing playing a character? We've allowed metagaming the house robbery UI and removed private labs. That is the opposite direction of what you're referring to. Fair. I've been on both sides of that. The point is: Before we address the people removing their shadows, employing "clapper settings," etc, address the mindset: Why does the server attract people who ONLY want to PVP? Address the cheaters, address the players who are constantly in labs, introduce things to do that do not involve hostile interaction. Just my opinion.

Same root-issue as most of these discussion posts: Stop moving this server towards PVP. If labs weren't basically a free pvp zone and 87% of the server pop weren't cheating, people wouldn't be doing things to add a competitive edge. While I agree that personal responsibility is a thing, staff have created the current mindset on this server. Crims who still want to RP are basically made fun of. If you follow the crowd, you're shooting all day. It's not even just the crims anymore. Most RPers have left or settled into the current climate of the server. Everyone is just looking for a fight. We have GND officers with "jump out gang" (or something along those lines) in their forum signatures, for christ's sake. I'd love for this to be an RP server again!

+1000. But this would take the server itself to go back to actually catering to RP and not creating a pro-PVP environment. Every step the server (development, staff decision precedent, etc etc) has taken in the last year (or more) has simply pushed crim into its current state. As for the suggestion: Nah. Because this would be doing the same thing, allowing for more PVP mentality with less restrictions.

That's just a massive simplification. Achievement = enjoyment for most people. In fact, that's the whole reason video games have progression. End of the day, Roleplay or otherwise, this is a video game.