Decaying guns

[derick gee]

Ive heard that guns decay now, if not then please ignore, but if do continue to read.

I actually think this is one of the worst moves on this server and a very unfair one, it doesnt stop people fighting at all if anything it increases it i have around 2m in guns to now use with 90 days otherwise my once store of wealth just decays? You can argue about weapon cleaning kits etc but you shouldn't have to check every gun in every house every other month and spend alot to repair due to decay which is unrealistic.

I also feel for the people who are taking a break who have stashes of multi millions who may not even know about this just to come back with no guns. Again if this did help to lower fighting i could understand more why, but it doesn't imo it just demotivates and ruins the aspect of grinding which is a big part for me.

Think it would be better to make it guns hard to get and if u do get them there expensive

thanks danderson 

[Ritchie Stones]

I saw a picture post of paulius stating 

“have all your guns, just maintain them”

meaning yes they decay but you need to clean them sort of to have the decay reset

[Tylerwalk]

I feel like guns should only start decaying if they have been shot, a brand new gun that has never been shot should not break after 90 days. This will just cause more fights since people will be forced to use there guns.

[Requiem]

The simple answer is, don't have more guns than you need. You can have as much as you want, but be prepared to maintain them if you want to have a stash. This change encourages less asset focused gun hoarding and encourages more player to player interaction of more frequent illegal shipments and gun deals happening. More time in RP and less time in PVP is a positive. 

[Diabolical]

i would have to disagree with the post by requiem, i dont think this move brings any more rp than usual? ordering a shipment as a crim is a simple as ask someone, place order, get order. roleplay will not come of this due to the nature of the drops its self, now all we will see is more fights at drop points, or criminals stealing legal  firearms off of players. ontop of this all this seems to be IMO is another way to make the criminal life more of a grind and repetitive. i now know i have a time frame on my guns, so i am going to use them with any excuse as many times as possible in order to make the most of my grinded experience.

on another note this wouldn't affect police in anyway but would only affect crims or legal gun owners who now have to spend more of their money on something petty over working towards a bigger goal.

[derick gee]

On 6/13/2025 at 5:49 PM, Requiem said:

The simple answer is, don't have more guns than you need. You can have as much as you want, but be prepared to maintain them if you want to have a stash. This change encourages less asset focused gun hoarding and encourages more player to player interaction of more frequent illegal shipments and gun deals happening. More time in RP and less time in PVP is a positive. 

But is it the answer to lowering pvp, or is there much more effective ways to achieve this without ruining the side of grinding for criminals , also is it realistic for metal guns to decay?

More frequent illegal shipments is more pvp, some people have well over 100 pistols that will decay in 90 days do you believe that will decrease pvp or increase it. 

Point is it will have little to no impact on lowing the pvp, if anything may increase it, at the expense of lowering a crims experience whilst playing, and the biggest point those who do have stashes but are away for ages is it fair for them to lose millions due to a new rule they dont know about?

my advice is to add more things criminals can do that interact with normal players for example a money laundering/ hacker warehouse only big gangs can acquire where randoms will meet at a house dealer at a certain time and be able to choose a option for hacker job or some shit if a big gang has put a job in for that night, the group will be given the gangs warehouse location and will have to complete tasks in order for the vpn and computer to not be compt by police (alerted). The gangs job will be to look over the workers incase someone phones police etc bring water to the server room replace and fix the and broken parts, if alerted their job will be to either run surrender or take hostage one of the workers,

just a scruff idea and could change and differ in every way but just an example but it would be like instead of a Saturday night lab push there would be another option like a bank

guns harder to get

make guns more valuable 

2 ways to lower pvp ^

make guns great again

 

[Ritchie Stones]

On 6/13/2025 at 6:49 PM, Requiem said:

The simple answer is, don't have more guns than you need. You can have as much as you want, but be prepared to maintain them if you want to have a stash. This change encourages less asset focused gun hoarding and encourages more player to player interaction of more frequent illegal shipments and gun deals happening. More time in RP and less time in PVP is a positive. 

I think the maintaining is a good thing. Dont have mire than you can handle, however i am not so gappy about the constant chipping away from crims over the last 3 years. It has to stop at some point. Its been very depressing 

[Vardan Sarkissian]

Gun decay will have a positive impact after a while. You and others who keep millions worth of weapons are the reason admins implemented this. Buy what you use, clean it from time to time and everything will be good. it will reduce PVP as soon as there is less guns stashed, as you will have to buy now. 

[derick gee]

13 minutes ago, Vardan Sarkissian said:

Gun decay will have a positive impact after a while. You and others who keep millions worth of weapons are the reason admins implemented this. Buy what you use, clean it from time to time and everything will be good. it will reduce PVP as soon as there is less guns stashed, as you will have to buy now. 

so u think its fair that people who have guns stashed and have not played and dont know that guns decay now to come back to empty safes? 

also the pvp, although i dont think it does reduce pvp at all, why do they want to get rid of that side? if the server had massive ques then yh try to keep pvp to a low but if u make it shit for the people who do enjoy pvp u could lose alot of players that wouldve been interacting with workers bennys burgershot for example again this wouldnt apply if server was always full then u could be more picky but making it shitty for crims = less players =less interaction /  RP

[PompeyLeon]

On 6/13/2025 at 5:49 PM, Requiem said:

The simple answer is, don't have more guns than you need.

Just gonna hop in here with my opinion. Some may agree, some may disagree however I disagree with you here Requiem on a few different bases however I will state the main one. Many criminals make most their money cooking and guns are extremely beneficial to ensure that you can protect this cook. And in the current state of ECRP, cops are bound to pull up and pretty much ALWAYS win. Therefore this results in guns always being lost and having to have new ones to cook again.

Also many criminals make money from selling guns whether this is from their own stash or from drops. It is a very common way for people to make money and is very useful when making money. Therefore I believe that this decaying of weapons is extremely useless and ruins many different ways of making money. 

Also I strongly agree with @derick gee because his point on people who are on a break from the server may have good stashes to come back to however due to the new decaying they may have no guns meaning that they may have no assets and not much money to get new ones due to the long LOA. 

Thats all from me! 

[Vardan Sarkissian]

2 hours ago, derick gee said:

so u think its fair that people who have guns stashed and have not played and dont know that guns decay now to come back to empty safes? 

Well it's not about being fair or not, shit changes. You can't agree to not change anything cause the people who aren't playin in months might dislike it. It takes like 90 days to full decay, it's not like they weren't given time. 

[derick gee]

57 minutes ago, Vardan Sarkissian said:

Well it's not about being fair or not, shit changes. You can't agree to not change anything cause the people who aren't playin in months might dislike it. It takes like 90 days to full decay, it's not like they weren't given time. 

Dont know how u are so against this, its quite simple people who have spent money on guns shouldnt come back to nothing, they have spent hours to acquire them.  Shit can change but it must be fair its like the recent drug change they have put all drugs as top tier acquired before the update that is fair, this should be a rule for newly imported guns not the old ones people accumulated these whilst this rule was not in. 

Weather or not u agree with guns decaying i think most would agree with me on the point of people taking breaks shouldnt lose all their guns due to not knowing the new update i didnt even know until recently  

[SquirtleSquad]

I would like to know why everyone thinks that their guns are going to decay after a week. That's not the case. You can get a gun repair kit to fix them back to 100%. It's a change that I feel is needed on the server, and honestly helps with gang relations more. This is honestly a W win, and since it being brought back, hasn't been around long enough for people to be that worried about it yet. As with every change on the server, give it time.

If you're that worried about "losing gun" due to decay, remember this is an RP server, not Skyrim where you horde potions to just never use them.

[Vardan Sarkissian]

25 minutes ago, SquirtleSquad said:

I would like to know why everyone thinks that their guns are going to decay after a week. That's not the case. You can get a gun repair kit to fix them back to 100%. It's a change that I feel is needed on the server, and honestly helps with gang relations more. This is honestly a W win, and since it being brought back, hasn't been around long enough for people to be that worried about it yet. As with every change on the server, give it time.

If you're that worried about "losing gun" due to decay, remember this is an RP server, not Skyrim where you horde potions to just never use them.

+1

[PompeyLeon]

2 hours ago, Vardan Sarkissian said:

Well it's not about being fair or not, shit changes. You can't agree to not change anything cause the people who aren't playin in months might dislike it. It takes like 90 days to full decay, it's not like they weren't given time. 

Quite literally people have lives outside of ECRP and will not jeopardise whatever they have going on to log on and make sure that their guns don't decay. That is just a wild statement to make as you think that people dont take breaks due to exams, life issues or burnt out. ''Oh I have many exams going on, oh well my guns will decay on ECRP, lemme make sure that I log on and clean my guns.''

Many people take LOAs from the server for a long time and will not log on to ensure that their guns are safe. Also people who are banned for a certain amount of time and come back after 3 months lose all their guns. 

Therefore I strongly disagree with your idea and believe that your opinion is also on this as your gang have nothing to do with guns and labs therefore you will agree with the decay strongly. 

[Vardan Sarkissian]

51 minutes ago, PompeyLeon said:

Quite literally people have lives outside of ECRP and will not jeopardise whatever they have going on to log on and make sure that their guns don't decay. That is just a wild statement to make as you think that people dont take breaks due to exams, life issues or burnt out. ''Oh I have many exams going on, oh well my guns will decay on ECRP, lemme make sure that I log on and clean my guns.''

Many people take LOAs from the server for a long time and will not log on to ensure that their guns are safe. Also people who are banned for a certain amount of time and come back after 3 months lose all their guns. 

Therefore I strongly disagree with your idea and believe that your opinion is also on this as your gang have nothing to do with guns and labs therefore you will agree with the decay strongly. 

My friend other gangs who do labs and guns have been pushing for this more than I was. Also, I can have an opinion about something I don't participate in on daily basis. I don't need to be at labs all day long to understand how people having stashes worth of millions isn't goor for RP. 

Also, I never said we should ignore ppl on their breaks, I'm saying the server shouldn't stop evolving because of it. If you go away for multiple months, it is normal that some shit will not be the same when you come back. 

[Jordan]

On 6/12/2025 at 10:26 AM, derick gee said:

Ive heard that guns decay now, if not then please ignore, but if do continue to read.

I actually think this is one of the worst moves on this server and a very unfair one, it doesnt stop people fighting at all if anything it increases it i have around 2m in guns to now use with 90 days otherwise my once store of wealth just decays? You can argue about weapon cleaning kits etc but you shouldn't have to check every gun in every house every other month and spend alot to repair due to decay which is unrealistic.

I also feel for the people who are taking a break who have stashes of multi millions who may not even know about this just to come back with no guns. Again if this did help to lower fighting i could understand more why, but it doesn't imo it just demotivates and ruins the aspect of grinding which is a big part for me.

Think it would be better to make it guns hard to get and if u do get them there expensive

thanks danderson 

I cannot fathom the idea that this is "one of the worst moves" if anything this is a great idea. Discourages having massive stashes meaning more faction to faction interactions and means that people are forced to actually grind more instead of just having a mountain of guns to sit on top of and just "roll labs" this is overall a great improvement and a step in the right direction for the server 

[Demonmit1]

as a detective, ive had conversations with people who are involved in extreme levels of PVP, thats almost all they do on the server. the comment that stood out to me the most was, "I havent had to order guns for over a year" goes to show the massive stashes some of the people have. shits crazy. Some of the property raids we've done have been in the multiple millions of import costs for guns and ammo. this stuff just sits around for these long time players so they can repeatedly fight, die, grab another kit, and go fight again, day in and day out, and they dont see a dent in their arsenal until we in investigations come raid them, and then for the smart ones its not that big of a deal cause thats not their only stash.

Edited June 23, 2025 by Demonmit1

[Machaa]

No normal player can earn and gain big stashes. and if there are a lot of guns around it may because they got cheaper and easier to get. The decay move is very and very unfair for the criminals who spent their TIME and effort to earn.
You cant screw all the people who has stashes in order to solve an issue, Make weapons expensive again and harder to get and that would solve the issue. people would have less stashes.

Imagine I come and suggest that PD/SD shouldve earned half their salary and they earned a lot of money, its too much so we gonna take half of their money. It doesn't work like that. 

All updates are just making less and less criminals players in the server.

I suggest instead of making a player put a lot of money in repairing he just needs to clean his gun with a microfiber towel not put millions in fixing them... it's not fair at all. 

Edited June 23, 2025 by Machaa

[Demonmit1]

31 minutes ago, Machaa said:

Imagine I come and suggest that PD/SD shouldve earned half their salary and they earned a lot of money, its too much so we gonna take half of their money. It doesn't work like that. 

to be fair, gaining half of something you never use anyways wouldnt really affect 90% of law enforcement players. most dont do it for the money, as we dont have a use for money, and the ones who do, generally dont stick around, as bonuses and commission pay in civ factions is better, or have been in law enforcement for so long their main source of income is no longer salary, its stores and loans. Law enforcement income was also massively reduced a few months ago, as LFM cut quarterly bonuses entirely. used to get 250-500k bonus just for being in the faction every 2-3 months. 

Edited June 23, 2025 by Demonmit1

[Jordan]

6 hours ago, Machaa said:

No normal player can earn and gain big stashes. and if there are a lot of guns around it may because they got cheaper and easier to get. The decay move is very and very unfair for the criminals who spent their TIME and effort to earn.
You cant screw all the people who has stashes in order to solve an issue, Make weapons expensive again and harder to get and that would solve the issue. people would have less stashes.

Imagine I come and suggest that PD/SD shouldve earned half their salary and they earned a lot of money, its too much so we gonna take half of their money. It doesn't work like that. 

All updates are just making less and less criminals players in the server.

I suggest instead of making a player put a lot of money in repairing he just needs to clean his gun with a microfiber towel not put millions in fixing them... it's not fair at all. 

I have nothing to add, but thats cap. 

[Homast]

7 hours ago, Machaa said:

You cant screw all the people who has stashes in order to solve an issue,

Actually you can.

Especially when it's these players and their stashes that contribute to the problem at hand.

Crims want more ways to make money, Sell guns now! Gun sales were directly impacted and lower than they should have been because of massive 2m+ stashes. This change directly fixes that.

"Make it so we can make more money / have more things to do!"

*Devs do that*

"Wait no. That's not what I meant..."

More P2P and Gang to Gang interaction? IN muh online roleplaying server? No.... this is bad. My stash is directly affected so this is bad!

 

8 hours ago, Machaa said:

Make weapons expensive again and harder to get and that would solve the issue. people would have less stashes.

You are aware that before the gun price reductions, people still had MASSIVE stashes right? Stashes aren't a new thing.
This just forces you to manage your stashes instead of them being a passive fallback that you can rely on when you decide to push labs back to back to back all day like an adrenaline fuelled donkey.
 

[Homast]

8 hours ago, Machaa said:

Imagine I come and suggest that PD/SD shouldve earned half their salary and they earned a lot of money, its too much so we gonna take half of their money. It doesn't work like that. 

Also, to dog on your incorrect opinion even more:
https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/forum/128-auctions-and-raffles/

This exists. That's literally it's purpose.

8 hours ago, Machaa said:

I suggest instead of making a player put a lot of money in repairing he just needs to clean his gun with a microfiber towel not put millions in fixing them... it's not fair at all. 

And again, to dunk on you, Not millions, unless of course, you're one of the problem players this is targeting, in which case, maybe uh... LIQUIDATE YOUR ASSETS. Hoarder.

[Machaa]

8 hours ago, Homast said:

Also, to dog on your incorrect opinion even more:
https://forum.eclipse-rp.net/forum/128-auctions-and-raffles/

This exists. That's literally it's purpose.

And again, to dunk on you, Not millions, unless of course, you're one of the problem players this is targeting, in which case, maybe uh... LIQUIDATE YOUR ASSETS. Hoarder.

its their choice to gamble or not gamble with their money. The people who has stash it's not their choice to not put money to fix their guns.
What throw my guns? People aren't buying guns like before because they dont want to make their stash bigger. The update is burning criminals money and their hard work. 
you cant even see it you cant even see that the criminal player base drops each year and the server been only losing players. 
so before you come and talk shit go and try to play on the other side for a while.

 

 

[SquirtleSquad]

15 minutes ago, Machaa said:

its their choice to gamble or not gamble with their money. The people who has stash it's not their choice to not put money to fix their guns.
What throw my guns? People aren't buying guns like before because they dont want to make their stash bigger. The update is burning criminals money and their hard work. 
you cant even see it you cant even see that the criminal player base drops each year and the server been only losing players. 
so before you come and talk shit go and try to play on the other side for a while.

The server isn't losing players. Since I've been on the server, it's been relatively stable in regards to numbers. Seasons, days of the weeks, time of day fluctuate availability, but updates aren't what's causing players to leave in mass. Give the update a shot before we go on about how we should be acting like Dragons hoarding treasures.

Your comment about it being peoples choice to gamble or not is not the same as those who choose to have a stash, I disagree. My crim barely has a few guns, and not once have I ever thought "Oh I need 10 .50's, 20 Pistol MK II's, 5 of each AR's, 10 shotguns, and 10 Machine or AP Pistols". Guns are ever revolving in the community, and the biggest loss of a gun is from a shoot-out. Not from getting caught by LEO, but getting caught lacking when rolling or holding labs.

This update does nothing to change that outside of your guns decaying at a slow rate. You're acting as if after a week the guns go from 100% - 0, which is not the case.