Ways to increase player count in ECRP

[EimaTrG]

13 hours ago, Bala said:

It's an interesting take, given your amount of time on the server but I honestly feel like it would be the fastest possible way to kill the server off. You could make all kinds of questionable and debatable choices, like looting cops or the three strike death penalty law for crims or whatever, there would still be enough people willing to swallow that.

That being said, for an advancing number of people, they're playing here still because they're attached to the friends they've made here and also, to their accumulated stuff.

It actually don't think it would be an exaggeration either. People would HATE that, even if there is some sound logic to the other part to what you said.

You do the things you talked about when you make a new server, not one that has been going 7-8 years.

Honestly get where  you are coming from, and most people maybe would disagree with the suggestion of an economy wipe, but mainly speaking I think a rebranded server with all the things ECRP has and maybe even more would be a great server, that is why I suggested just rebranding the LTU server as a test I feel like we have a huge community on RAGE:MP and with a "new" server that is based on ECRP with the economy starting a new would bring a lot of people in. But there is the concern of splitting the player base of the original ECRP if they do want to play on that more than the actual ECRP. Most of the people that do play on ECRP right now at this point are people that have assets they are tied to in my opinion, if you raided a criminal that has their whole stash in one place and took it all they would just say no point in playing anymore . Just my take on the whole thing I just feel like the economy is in shambles so new players in my opinion just never last because if they make their money and buy a gun and go to a lab they would most likely be hit with a 3 man squad of Carbine MK2 and 100 AP.

[HeadShot]

I think a big thing is also for everybody to stop living in the past, sure we can take things from how stuff used to be but now is not then, all I ever here on this server is some once upon a time stuff but those days are long gone and we need to focus on what we can do with what we have right now 

[Ritchie Stones]

21 hours ago, EimaTrG said:

Honestly I have been on the server for a long time started at 2018 and been on and off since then, one thing that stood out back then and not today is the whole situation with the economy, in my opinion a wipe of the economy has been long overdue. Now I know some people wouldn't agree to this but look at it like this, we have a dead LTU server, rebrand the server into something that the community wants, make cops have only pistols slowly implement guns like pistols into the server with the gangs have a whole economy wipe as the server is just stagnant there, people would be allowed to play on a server where the economy reset and there would be the good old ECRP where no one has anything and they have to stick together.

Just an idea, I would love to just go back in the day when if someone had a machine pistol they were the top criminal in the city rather than everyone having it for 15k


Edit: Would fix most of the problems everyone is complaining about, guns being overbearing, PD having too much power, new player retention would improve because everyone would be dirt poor not just them.

So you think, wiping economy, having a vast majority of players having assets for more that 2-3years, is going to make people just start over with enthusiasm,

You reset the server and you will be left with 50 players at best, players who never had anything accomplished in the last 2-3 years, because thats a win…. Your wrong in every way you could imagine,

you reset that server you might aswell pull the plug, you know what reset the credit assets to, let people lose 1000s in real money, because thats sure wont upset them.

[Dara MacFadden]

I don't really think there's much that can be done, I don't think its the servers fault or anyone in particular, like @alexalex303said there's a reason it peaked in 2020-2022, GTA was a great way to spend times with friends and meet new people when we were all locked away.

In my opinion, the server seems to have a stable enough population, sure, more can be better but everytime I'm on the server now it's enjoyable and there's enough people around to buzz off, albeit, I only log on a couple times every few months.

I personally don't have time like I used to, I am working/ in education full time and I can't play 8 hours a day like I used to, I feel like gaming in general has slowed down a lot since COVID, and it is what it is.

Mass Unban would be cool, but let's be real I doubt it'd solve the issue lmao, people will come back and only a small amount will stick around, it's probably not worth it but who am I to say

Edited May 3, 2025 by Dara MacFadden

[Phantas]

12 hours ago, Dara MacFadden said:

I don't really think there's much that can be done, I don't think its the servers fault or anyone in particular, like @alexalex303said there's a reason it peaked in 2020-2022, GTA was a great way to spend times with friends and meet new people when we were all locked away.

In my opinion, the server seems to have a stable enough population, sure, more can be better but everytime I'm on the server now it's enjoyable and there's enough people around to buzz off, albeit, I only log on a couple times every few months.

I personally don't have time like I used to, I am working/ in education full time and I can't play 8 hours a day like I used to, I feel like gaming in general has slowed down a lot since COVID, and it is what it is.

Mass Unban would be cool, but let's be real I doubt it'd solve the issue lmao, people will come back and only a small amount will stick around, it's probably not worth it but who am I to say

Little green man type so much say so little. Dislike

[Clank]

On 4/24/2025 at 4:46 AM, Billy Valentine said:

I almost forgot to mention cops can use 175 AP !!!! How fair !!!!

 

Who?? where???

  

On 4/30/2025 at 6:16 PM, Ritchie Stones said:

So you think, wiping economy, having a vast majority of players having assets for more that 2-3years, is going to make people just start over with enthusiasm,

I think we're in the minority of servers that DONT wipe economy after 6 months to a year

Edited May 4, 2025 by Clank

[Diligo]

12 hours ago, Clank said:

I think we're in the minority of servers that DONT wipe economy after 6 months to a year

literally the best thing about this server

[Trevor Zelias]

2 hours ago, Diligo said:

literally the best thing about this server

This is great but the money sinks that used to be like raffles and such it was like MANNNYY back in the days and that helped to keep it a bit stable. And other things also that took some money. Like I know the admin raffles took like 50M+ often out of the server

[Clank]

8 hours ago, Diligo said:

literally the best thing about this server

Disagree, people get too attached to assets and grinding as opposed to actually enjoying themselves

[Diligo]

1 hour ago, Clank said:

Disagree, people get too attached to assets and grinding as opposed to actually enjoying themselves

sounds like a philisophical standpoint. Who enjoys himself more? A rich merchant who has worked long and hard for his wealth or a tunic wearing nomad basking in the sun enjoying the warmth.

Both enjoy themselves, therefore enjoyment is subjective.

I enjoy myself while doing nothing but talk with people.
I also enjoy myself when I eat the fruits of my labour.

If server wipes its all for nothing and all the roleplay that this server will have left is - funny conversations; reacting to le funne moment when someone flips his car; reminiscing memories of the old days of the Eclipse server.

And server will die out. I cant even comprehend how someone can go into a roleplay server, waste their time building their wealth just for it to get wiped out. And if you call that getting too attached to assets - that is wrong. It is actually getting too attached to the STATUS.

imagine every legal faction owner get their rank wiped. Imagine Solomon Cobb being forced to forget being the biggest blogger of the city. Imagine Bobby Kirk going back to cadet rank. Imagine everyone forced to forget Lewis Langley was the best governor the state of San Andreas ever had.

That is how wealth is here treated. Its status. And when people achieve a certain level of status - they start enjoying themselves. 

[Bala]

It's a simple answer but not really a simple solution.

Do things that allow the people that play here, to enjoy themselves more frequently and to give those people that have stopped enjoying it, a reason to try it again.

Embrace the server we have and focus on the things that Eclipse does well, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel or make it like another server.

Money is meaningless, once you get past a certain point on Eclipse. You can't bottle that genie at this point, just don't make it worse.

Other than that, quality of life the fuck out of the server. The less minor irritations and unnecessary inconveniences the player has, the more enjoyable the experience.

End-game games do that all the time. They know they won't get the buzz they got around release back but if they've enjoyed sustained success, they can prolong the life of their project by placating their player base. If it can work for World of Warcraft after 20 years, it can work for us.

[Ritchie Stones]

On 5/5/2025 at 12:53 AM, Clank said:

Who?? where???

  

I think we're in the minority of servers that DONT wipe economy after 6 months to a year

and somehow this server is the one that stands out.. how odd

[Ritchie Stones]

On 5/6/2025 at 4:56 AM, Bala said:

It's a simple answer but not really a simple solution.

Do things that allow the people that play here, to enjoy themselves more frequently and to give those people that have stopped enjoying it, a reason to try it again.

Embrace the server we have and focus on the things that Eclipse does well, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel or make it like another server.

Money is meaningless, once you get past a certain point on Eclipse. You can't bottle that genie at this point, just don't make it worse.

Other than that, quality of life the fuck out of the server. The less minor irritations and unnecessary inconveniences the player has, the more enjoyable the experience.

End-game games do that all the time. They know they won't get the buzz they got around release back but if they've enjoyed sustained success, they can prolong the life of their project by placating their player base. If it can work for World of Warcraft after 20 years, it can work for us.

the money becomes meaningless after a while is actualy very true, at some point you have everything you ever wanted and then you fall into a black hole having to find yourself again,

also loved warcraft I played in 2006

[HeadShot]

Idk if this is scriptly possible but a big QOL of life feature in my humble opinion would be phone group chats and a “store” option on night safes so we can start keeping things inside of crates over 50 volume 

[Phantas]

2 hours ago, AlfredoLopez said:

Idk if this is scriptly possible but a big QOL of life feature in my humble opinion would be phone group chats and a “store” option on night safes so we can start keeping things inside of crates over 50 volume 

If we get group chats before gta 6 i would be surprised, its been asked for forver

 

[Eygon]

Well to the people who say that the server needs new scripts and all that shit and it needs new and complex management procedures etc. My only argument to those people is only one question :

Why ECRP was more alive and enjoyable in 2019?

-Server was very buggy

-Scripts were barebone

-Crim factions had lot of freedom 

-Fights were way way way more common

-Clap mentality existed yes, way more than now but it was strictly limited to your IC enemies, nobody went around at labs with the intent of getting some PVP, they went with the intent of finding their IC enemies and robbing randoms besides the main intent that all had that was cooking.

-Guns were cheap yet ammo was very limited (i was legit carrying a laptop with me at all times to have a slim chance to snipe 40 ak bullets off the black market, those who know understand the pain)

-Prison sentences were so different from now, if i remember well one time i server 8 hours in prison.

-Bans and rule breaks were very strict, legit the whole faction i was part of got banned in one night

-EDIT : Forgot to specify the god damn desync from RAGE that was super annoying

-So many more small things that I won't specify

Everything i said above would be considered heresy these days, some may even call the server unplayable yet it was very enjoyable and alive. From my point of view is the mentality of the players that gets the server down. The massive wave of players that came during the pandemic changed the mentality of the current players at that time and it was what led the server to this day.

Edited May 8, 2025 by Eygon

[Clank]

11 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

and somehow this server is the one that stands out.. how odd

Sure!

This server stands out because of the people on it, not because of the lack of economy wipes.

Edited May 8, 2025 by Clank

[Diligo]

1 hour ago, Salvador Rivera said:

I apologize in advance for using the SOULS Gang post, but here are some obvious reasons why people choose to leave this server instead of playing and creating crime RP. I hope I'm not the only one who sees this and is worried. Let's look at the latest post they recently posted.  PD MUST WIN mentality .  I'm glad that people are trying to create interesting RP situations and they are interesting and different. Not everyone can create something like that. 
It's disgusting to watch what PD did. People there have zero understanding of RP.

 

looked like cops wanted to go to sleep or go off duty so they just quickly decided that it was enough RP and decided to end it.

[HeadShot]

Yeah my gang had a police officer hostage in a bank, the cops met every demand and as soon as 5 of us left in a scout with pockets filled and trunk filled, we had guys stay behind with the hostage threatening to kill the hostage if they followed us, needless to say they followed us and chased us then proceeded to just rush into the bank and shoot us, hitting the cop as they were shooting us, felt very distasteful because I don’t know the next time we will have a police officer hostage in a bank. I feel like we had them dead to rights and they chose to just go guns blazing and shoot everybody instead of giving us the RP we deserved in that moment. 

[AtlasOLimbo]

Let's not derail the thread into "PD bad" please. PD has a roleplay feedback form, in which one was filed and I believed adequately responded to above situation regarding Hope Kant. This also is once again turning into people bringing up situations that have not been adequately reported to the associated factions.

I personally play SD where we have, on multiple times, honored individuals agreements and agreed that we would not shoot.

[Salvador Rivera]

2 hours ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

Let's not derail the thread into "PD bad" please. PD has a roleplay feedback form, in which one was filed and I believed adequately responded to above situation regarding Hope Kant. This also is once again turning into people bringing up situations that have not been adequately reported to the associated factions.

I personally play SD where we have, on multiple times, honored individuals agreements and agreed that we would not shoot.

We're talking about what could increase server activity here. We've all known for a long time that the more options Crim characters have, the more activity they will have on the server. Then PD is one of those problems that always wants to win in any situation. We'll talk about it until someone starts doing something about it. 

 

Okay, I also want to say something that's not related to PD. Most Civil works could use some improvement and make them more interesting. Okay, next updates will be coming soon, I hope soon.

For example : Hunting job ? It's in pretty bad condition. Should have some cool update.

Same as Fishing job or I would say its a hobby.

''Drug system'' should be much more interesting, all public drag labs are a joy for people with a PVP mentality. Most of them don't even know how to use /do/me cmds. PRIVATE DRUG labs is a good idea but should be really expensive. I've seen so many videos of what a drug lab looks like on other servers and it all attracts a lot more people. 

Where is StreetGang RP? I don't see any gangs doing RP in their hood anymore. Well, it's not that rare that Locos or OTF show up there, it doesn't count. Nothing personal to you guys. Why is this happening? Because these gangs have nothing to do there. They can't grow weed on their property or use it for anything else. A waste of time. 

 

 

[AnakinB]

On 5/9/2025 at 8:28 AM, AtlasOLimbo said:

Let's not derail the thread into "PD bad" please. PD has a roleplay feedback form, in which one was filed and I believed adequately responded to above situation regarding Hope Kant. This also is once again turning into people bringing up situations that have not been adequately reported to the associated factions.

I personally play SD where we have, on multiple times, honored individuals agreements and agreed that we would not shoot.

The fact that these threads always end up with law enforcement being the main issue should be telling enough that their mentality may just be the issue.

[AtlasOLimbo]

3 minutes ago, AnakinB said:

The fact that these threads always end up with law enforcement being the main issue should be telling enough that their mentality may just be the issue.

It's not an issue that solely rests with law enforcement. There are mentality issues that plague every branch of the server and I hate that LEOs catch the most flack for it, sometimes deserved, sometimes undeserved. Crims tend to be the most vocal in this argument for a variety of reasons, but as someone who is currently playing both I promise you it is not as one-sided of an issue as you are making it out to be.

A lot of mentalities/playstyles on this server are super toxic and have yet to be snuffed out to a significant enough degree in my opinion. LEOs are not perfect and there is bad apples, but being unable to self-reflect is just as awful and contributes to these echo chamber threads.

[Ritchie Stones]

7 hours ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

It's not an issue that solely rests with law enforcement. There are mentality issues that plague every branch of the server and I hate that LEOs catch the most flack for it, sometimes deserved, sometimes undeserved. Crims tend to be the most vocal in this argument for a variety of reasons, but as someone who is currently playing both I promise you it is not as one-sided of an issue as you are making it out to be.

A lot of mentalities/playstyles on this server are super toxic and have yet to be snuffed out to a significant enough degree in my opinion. LEOs are not perfect and there is bad apples, but being unable to self-reflect is just as awful and contributes to these echo chamber threads.

IT'S THE CIVILIANS !!! BURN THEM !!!!

[Tomvd682]

Unban all banned players except Hoxton Curry