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I personally don't think that most of the additions and changes that you specified in your thread would make the server keep the playerbase and/or gain more new players but when it comes to your suggestion about the old labs I couldn't agree more. I never in the first place liked the new drug labs and it made them lower interaction and money farming. Back then the labs used to be very balanced to the server economy at the time. Still to this day I cannot imagine the logic they had when they decided to change them and I cannot know since I was banned when they were making this changes but from what others said I think it was to somehow reduce PVP. Yet currently the biggest crim issue is large scale PVP so it certainly didn't work out for them. Honestly I think by bringing back the old labs it will reduce the large scale PVP, it might not reduce the the overall quantity but at least the fights won't feel like a full scale battle that would be in the real warfare, we might aswell go play other games for that kind of content. Would also want to add that we need more open air labs, most labs that were added recently act like some kind of "fortress defence" gameplay and to my opinion is super boring.

Lack of crim content for low scale crims ( civillians ) and let's improve on that. We all know that 5 years back there was good content for civs when it came to criminal activities. Anyone who was somehow "legal" was participating in small scale crime from time to time but that was all taken away when crims started centralizing from lots of small gangs going around the city to a very small amount of big gangs. That makes small crime hard for solos or a small crew of people. I mean imagine you go chop a car or cook some 50 coke at a public lab and you get swarmed by 25 guys with heavies. Besides that there's also PD that's cringe with their obsession of getting "action". All that being said, there should be ways found on how to make solo/low scale crime fun for civilians to enjoy. They can't just do freelance jobs all the time, it gets super boring after a few hours and besides there's little to no player interactions there. They should also find other ways of getting some content.

Well to the people who say that the server needs new scripts and all that shit and it needs new and complex management procedures etc. My only argument to those people is only one question : Why ECRP was more alive and enjoyable in 2019? -Server was very buggy -Scripts were barebone -Crim factions had lot of freedom -Fights were way way way more common -Clap mentality existed yes, way more than now but it was strictly limited to your IC enemies, nobody went around at labs with the intent of getting some PVP, they went with the intent of finding their IC enemies and robbing randoms besides the main intent that all had that was cooking. -Guns were cheap yet ammo was very limited (i was legit carrying a laptop with me at all times to have a slim chance to snipe 40 ak bullets off the black market, those who know understand the pain) -Prison sentences were so different from now, if i remember well one time i server 8 hours in prison. -Bans and rule breaks were very strict, legit the whole faction i was part of got banned in one night -EDIT : Forgot to specify the god damn desync from RAGE that was super annoying -So many more small things that I won't specify Everything i said above would be considered heresy these days, some may even call the server unplayable yet it was very enjoyable and alive. From my point of view is the mentality of the players that gets the server down. The massive wave of players that came during the pandemic changed the mentality of the current players at that time and it was what led the server to this day.

Well I guess some gangs gonna feel relieved after this... Was a good run, keep it strong guys!

Clean thread, best of luck!

Crim rp with pd automatically got shit when massive waves of crims created alts and joined pd after losing on their crim, disbanding their factions etc. As a 100% criminal who only played one character that was crim for 5 years now, i can easily tell that if i was to join pd or sd someday I couldn’t ignore my crim character friendships and rivals and act fairly. I know multiple individuals who straight up said that they are bias towards their crim ic enemies and allies. Is funny how we have ppl in 2023 that believe crims in pd alts are fair. How can you avoid this? Well remove all the crims from pd but that’s not an option since they make up a very very BIG proportion of PD. Other option? Well yes, make crims have another way to avoid gang surpression without just waiting it out and make crim economy way less of an ass pain, bring back laptop prices for heavies, lower impound fee and stop suspending driver licenses if the suspect isn’t even driving… Long story short for lazy ppl who can’t be bothered reading what i said : big agree on OOC hate and bias of PD.

HUGE +1. Sometimes killing PD is unavoidable and you get gang surppressed for weeks for that and you kill PD because you're getting surppressed again and the cycle keeps repeating. Gang surppression should exist for some some fixed days and then when a major fight/arrest happen NLR should be in place. Example: you can get gang surppressed for 3 days straight without the possibility of NLR and after those 3 days at the first fight/arrest the gang gets NLRed,

By far one of the best threads I've ever seen. I can't wait to interact with this faction!

Positive interactions so far with high standards of RP. Welcome back Black Cassady and good luck!