Add a 0.5x multiplier or completely nullify the process of DOC time when AFK.

[AtlasOLimbo]

Roleplay in DOC has completely tanked when people just stand there AFK to wait out already shortened sentences, especially with VIP. I think the lack of AFK kicking has just encouraged this behavior. Something should be implemented to negate this.

[Jordan]

-1 While I see where this is coming from, I feel like this doesn't take into account times people would be serving prison time when its a dead time of the server and nothing is going on, and you're the only one online. In that scenario there is no one to RP with, nothing to do but grind and not everyone wants to be doing that. Sometimes it's easier to spend the time watching a show while you wait your time.

I like the idea of enhancing Prison RP but I do not think this is the way to do it all this does is make people dislike the prison system IMO

[Quietthecutie]

I think the solution should instead be on improving the DOC experience, giving inmates more things to do, making them worth doing and encouraging people not to AFK through that instead of punishing the player for the servers lack of development on this..

Your problem would still be solved but it would instead be a positive change.

[Demonmit1]

nope. i completely agree with Quiet here. DOC needs more to do, not punish people for AFKing their time since there's nothing to do. I've made quite a few suggestions on improving the DOC experience:
 

oh, and you'd have to consider the unintentional effects this would cause. log out of the game for the night and log back in later to find yourself locked in the cell and no one is online to let you out? you'd be screwed.

what about people put in solitary? they're sentence should now be twice as long OOCly by a script? there isnt enough space to move around to avoid the AFK timer.

Edited February 20, 2025 by Demonmit1

[AtlasOLimbo]

This is also just enforcing an already existing rule about being AFK in public. Being actively AFK in DOC is a rulebreak/gets you kicked when reported.

This is quite literally just returning the feature to how it was prior to the recent change. As a CO that tries to create roleplay in the cellblock, it's rather difficult when all the inmates are standing there staring at walls, and then leaving the cellblock empty at what should be peak hours.

It's a (three?) way street. I do agree that there's been not enough from the development side of things, but I don't think that excuses quite literally AFKing what is still 'active roleplay'.

EDIT: I also work the night shift. (9 pm - 3 am EST) where claims are made about no one being around. I've very rarely seen ZERO COs, but frequently see zero inmates.

Edited February 20, 2025 by AtlasOLimbo

[Quietthecutie]

53 minutes ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

This is also just enforcing an already existing rule about being AFK in public

If the rule already exists then submit your reports. nothing needs to be changed according to you. Have you ever reported someone at DOC for being AFK? how did that go?

53 minutes ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

Being actively AFK in DOC is a rulebreak/gets you kicked when reported.

An argument could be made that DOC isnt a public area. for starters its quite literally fenced off with its own private security force. And if an inmate goes into one of the cells, lies down on the bed, then they are effectively asleep. bonus points if you ask a CO to lock you in. at any rate youd find it quite uncommon for someone to be reported for AFKing unless its in a situation/location where you are absolutely required to be active, such as roadworks, burgershot, on the job, in an active RP op or at an event basically. moreover the player cannot choose to leave DOC when they like, they are locked in. so once again, not a public area that they can choose to vacate as they please. So whilst you might be technically correct, that's all it is. a technicality.

People go afk at say, legion square all the time, just sitting on the little parking booth, do you report those people?

Its enlightening to know you RP as a CO, as it gives a little more background as to where this suggestion is coming from. and i feel you, it must be bored working there particularly at demon hours. but thats not the prisoners fault. if you wanna see an uptick in activity, I would be taking it to LFM as a suggestion for DOC development, not the suggestion board for punishments. thats backwards thinking imo.

 

Edited February 21, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[Jordan]

39 minutes ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

This is also just enforcing an already existing rule about being AFK in public. Being actively AFK in DOC is a rulebreak/gets you kicked when reported.

This is quite literally just returning the feature to how it was prior to the recent change. As a CO that tries to create roleplay in the cellblock, it's rather difficult when all the inmates are standing there staring at walls, and then leaving the cellblock empty at what should be peak hours.

It's a (three?) way street. I do agree that there's been not enough from the development side of things, but I don't think that excuses quite literally AFKing what is still 'active roleplay'.

EDIT: I also work the night shift. (9 pm - 3 am EST) where claims are made about no one being around. I've very rarely seen ZERO COs, but frequently see zero inmates.

Can't say I agree. I play a crim, I go to prison semi-often, and I personally savor my prison time cause I like the grind, and I most definitely know for a fact there are times where there aren't guards, either clocked in or they are clocked in but are sitting afk behind the desk. I think this server has much more to benefit from adding things to do in DOC than punishing players that aren't always able to RP/ Can't RP.

[AtlasOLimbo]

Just a general response, while I agree that enhancing DOC should be the way to approach this, it seems that DOC does not currently have any form of development priority and this is the 'simpler' solution.

[Demonmit1]

19 hours ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

this is the 'simpler' solution.

but it isnt a solution, its just a bad idea.

foster and encourage RP, ICly or by script support. but punishing people who chose not to interact by doubling their sentence is a terrible idea. Its not like they're benefiting by not interacting, its not salary farming. if someone doesnt want to interact with other prisoners in prison, thats an acceptable choice. 

Its a bit hypocritical that if you at DOC want people to interact more, but if people interact and engage more, they get put in a cell or solitary so they are forced to not interact. but you want people to be punished for not interacting too. idk. just a bad idea overall

Edited February 21, 2025 by Demonmit1

[AtlasOLimbo]

18 minutes ago, Demonmit1 said:

Its a bit hypocritical that if you at DOC want people to interact more, but if people interact and engage more, they get put in a cell or solitary so they are forced to not interact. but you want people to be punished for not interacting too. idk. just a bad idea overall

Not every interaction has to result in a fight or someone being insulted. You can perfectly stay out of a cell and interact and engage more without going into one!

[Jordan]

Lets not get off track, this discussion about how to improve DOC interactions/RP, please lets stick to that

[HobGoblin]

DOC time is boring, if there is nothing to do of course people will AFK.

[AmiCath]

-1 DOC is so boring id rather stand afk finish my sentence while watching a movie or something. If there was things to do then maybe people would be more engaging but that wont happen until there is a change.  

[AtlasOLimbo]

1 hour ago, AmiCath said:

-1 DOC is so boring id rather stand afk finish my sentence while watching a movie or something. If there was things to do then maybe people would be more engaging but that wont happen until there is a change.  

This is such an awful mindset to have on a roleplay server.

[AmiCath]

1 minute ago, AtlasOLimbo said:

This is such an awful mindset to have on a roleplay server.

Darling, i can assure you i am not the only one who does and thinks like this, if you are alone at DOC no guard or random inmates who only cause trouble or stare into a wall. What would you do? Pick up trash, mine some rocks or do laundry for 3 hours is not fun. 

[exaal]

-1 aint nobody tryna roleplay in jail bro

 

[Jordan]

On 5/20/2025 at 6:02 AM, AtlasOLimbo said:

This is such an awful mindset to have on a roleplay server.

This was her implying they should add more things to do.

Ultimately the problem with DOC is the mere lack of roleplay thats even possible with it.
Here's the lowdown:
DOC has a lot of rules that kind of stops roleplay. Some are rules that stop DOC guards from going into the cellblock so that leaves RP to the inmates, no inmates no RP. Another thing is, visitation is only allowed under VERY SPECIFIC circumstances, that or you need a MEGA SURPLUS of guards because ive never even seen visitation and the only time ive heard of it was like a year ago. Visitation would allow for a lot of cool RP.

I get they dont wanna dedicate more space to DOC, but to be honest I think making the prison slightly larger with some other places inmates could go, would be fun too. Add some more rooms with more "jobs" for stamps that could be fun. I know this one is very controversial but add the poker table back, it was really roleplay to be able to gamble stamps which is currency exclusive to DOC. Its not like DOC DOESNT want any of this added. The warden is a staff member, im sure the idea has been thrown around before. I think the solution atleast until they wanna dedicate an actual update to DOC is maybe lighten up on the rules.
 

[Eliza]

I think adding more stuff to do would help, or maybe adding “jobs” you can do that significantly reduce your time would help incentivize not being AFK. Maybe stuff like cleaning the tables, mopping the floor, or other stuff like that.

[RustyOsprey2]

All there is to do in DOC is gather laundry, mine, gather litter and the occasional RP that happens. This is why people AFK, cause when there is 5 people all doing the only 3 things you can do, it turns very boring very quick, If you manage to get a sentence thats closer to 3 hours that simply becomes painful at that point. People play video games for enjoyment, DOC is not enjoyable at the current state especially not for 3 hours.

[Jokl]

Problem with DOC is that its boring af...if you get a 3 hr sentence, you eighter 1: grind some money 2: talk shit (you get bored of that pretty fast) 3: fist fight (also get boring pretty quick) or 4: AFK while watching Netflix/Youtube (often the outcome for people that RP as criminals and gets arrested often, since you get bored of 1-3 pretty fast).
The only solution in my eyes is to create more RP in prison.

Where did the poker table go? The scripts are there, people can gamble with their stamps

Make a kitchen where you can pretty much do what you do at burger shot so people can make food and make a tiny bit of cash? 

I dont know...maby lower the max sentece time to 2 hrs + split the fines in half? 

No point in having a prison if nobody wants to do crime since its so boring + the fines...Faster they are out on the street, the faster they can come back too! + it creates RP for PD/SD.