Make LEO /drag work like MD /drag for injured characters.

[Lynn Foster]

There's a big difference in the way that /drag works between LEOs and MD.  MD you can /drag a person and place them in your vehicle and they are auto-undragged and stay in the vehicle if you exit.  As an LEO the person will follow you in and out of the vehicle unless you undrag, which still takes them out of the vehicle.  Additionally, if the injured person you are dragging is not cuffed, then they spawn under your vehicle when you drop them off and often get instantly reinjured. 

I just think it makes more sense to work the way it does for MD, icly and scriptly.  Hopefully other LEO players will weigh in.

[BecksLeKitty]

Yesssssssssssss this would make life alot easier.

[Quietthecutie]

+1. 

The current script is a pain in the ass and i can only fathom its supposed to work like MDs drag, but just...dosent? definately needs a fix.

[inorigj]

I'm kind of stuck in the middle on this one.

on 1 hand. it would be way less buggy.

but on the other hand. this would let PD/SD store 1 or 2 injured in their vehicle. something they shouldn't be able to. and from my knowledge. is the reason PD can only have 1 injured in their vehicle.

The IC reason for this. is because a injured 15/16 transported by PD is laying down in the backseats. taking up the entire back of the cruiser. while an ambulance has 2 stretchers to transport 2 patients.

 

If PD was to get a similar script I think they should also restrict the amount of injured they can have in their vehicle at the time.

PD/SD isn't MD, and shouldn't be a replacement for it. They've got /stabilize to be able to do some of MD's tasks while there is no MD on duty.

But I already see a lot of PD officers straight up treat and transport injured people without even asking for MD as it is. something that SHOULDN'T be happening. Giving them the chance to transport 2 or 3 injured at the time would promote this behaviour.

[Quietthecutie]

1 hour ago, inorigj said:

I'm kind of stuck in the middle on this one.

on 1 hand. it would be way less buggy.

but on the other hand. this would let PD/SD store 1 or 2 injured in their vehicle. something they shouldn't be able to. and from my knowledge. is the reason PD can only have 1 injured in their vehicle.

The IC reason for this. is because a injured 15/16 transported by PD is laying down in the backseats. taking up the entire back of the cruiser. while an ambulance has 2 stretchers to transport 2 patients.

 

If PD was to get a similar script I think they should also restrict the amount of injured they can have in their vehicle at the time.

PD/SD isn't MD, and shouldn't be a replacement for it. They've got /stabilize to be able to do some of MD's tasks while there is no MD on duty.

But I already see a lot of PD officers straight up treat and transport injured people without even asking for MD as it is. something that SHOULDN'T be happening. Giving them the chance to transport 2 or 3 injured at the time would promote this behaviour.

Im totally ok with restricting it and LEOs are perfectly capable of this.

Already certain units are incapable of carrying multiple 15's in certain vehicles not because of a script issue, but because of restrictions put on them which they obey (i.e K9 cannot carry more than 1 15 because they need room for their K9. no script stops them from doing this its just player rule restraint.) 

But i think this was never intended to be an intentional restriction on LEOs. more the scripts were developed separately and work differently. lets marry them up.

Also additional note. we regularly get complaints and suggestions regarding leos taking too long to clear scenes. this would also speed that up so i see this as an all around W idea.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Quietthecutie

[Cup]

PD and SD can put 

2 hours ago, inorigj said:

I'm kind of stuck in the middle on this one.

on 1 hand. it would be way less buggy.

but on the other hand. this would let PD/SD store 1 or 2 injured in their vehicle. something they shouldn't be able to. and from my knowledge. is the reason PD can only have 1 injured in their vehicle.

The IC reason for this. is because a injured 15/16 transported by PD is laying down in the backseats. taking up the entire back of the cruiser. while an ambulance has 2 stretchers to transport 2 patients.

 

If PD was to get a similar script I think they should also restrict the amount of injured they can have in their vehicle at the time.

PD/SD isn't MD, and shouldn't be a replacement for it. They've got /stabilize to be able to do some of MD's tasks while there is no MD on duty.

But I already see a lot of PD officers straight up treat and transport injured people without even asking for MD as it is. something that SHOULDN'T be happening. Giving them the chance to transport 2 or 3 injured at the time would promote this behaviour.

PD and SD can put more then one injured in their cruisers, it just requires two LEOS to do it

[Spizor]

2 hours ago, inorigj said:

I'm kind of stuck in the middle on this one.

on 1 hand. it would be way less buggy.

but on the other hand. this would let PD/SD store 1 or 2 injured in their vehicle. something they shouldn't be able to. and from my knowledge. is the reason PD can only have 1 injured in their vehicle.

The IC reason for this. is because a injured 15/16 transported by PD is laying down in the backseats. taking up the entire back of the cruiser. while an ambulance has 2 stretchers to transport 2 patients.

 

If PD was to get a similar script I think they should also restrict the amount of injured they can have in their vehicle at the time.

PD/SD isn't MD, and shouldn't be a replacement for it. They've got /stabilize to be able to do some of MD's tasks while there is no MD on duty.

But I already see a lot of PD officers straight up treat and transport injured people without even asking for MD as it is. something that SHOULDN'T be happening. Giving them the chance to transport 2 or 3 injured at the time would promote this behaviour.

This is not an IC restriction, and injured 10-15s have never been RPly placed in the back laying down; they are sat in their seat. Like Cup already mentioned, we can place two injured suspects in the back of our cruisers; it just requires two LEOs to do it due to script limitations.

Whether LEOs ask for MD or not is an IC matter, reflective of the circumstances of the current situation. For example, LEOs would ideally try to clear a scene where they expect to be ambushed as quickly as possible, and waiting 3-5 minutes for MD to arrive from the opposite side of the map can cost them a lot.

I personally support this, as I see it as a script QoL update for the things that we can already do.

[JWIT1]

+1.

[inorigj]

1 hour ago, Spizor said:

it just requires two LEOs to do it due to script limitations.

I was gonna go on a rant about your reply. but I'll simplify it to this:

Back in early to mid 2018 PD was able to transport 2 injured with 1 officer. they simply had to undrag the injured person after getting them inside the cruiser. This was manually changed to not work anymore.

Like how they removed MD's power to stabilize off-duty, in trade of giving PD access to the command instead when MD isn't on duty.

[Bala]

I don't see any downside to this, at all. Helps the person(s) injured and the person helping them.

[Mikazuki Ueno]

I think this is a good idea.

[Eliza]

On 11/24/2024 at 2:33 PM, Spizor said:

This is not an IC restriction, and injured 10-15s have never been RPly placed in the back laying down; they are sat in their seat.

If you’re injured there’s not much you could do whether you’re RPly laying down or not tbh, since you’re frozen in place by the script with /stabilize. You’d need help getting out of the cruiser just the same way that /outambulance does with dragging the injured person out of an MD vehicle does.

 

Regardless, +1 on this suggestion from me.

[Adam_Kippling]

+1

[Lue]

+1 Fantastic idea!!!

[Puzzling]

In addition to this, can we make at least MD drag keep them laying on the floor or in a laydown anim and connected to us so we don't have to do insane parkour to take them to an ambulance when 80% of the time we load them on to a stretcher?

I also dislike when we stabilize and they are standing up. For most injuries, the person wouldn't be standing up, it should leave them on the ground and maybe change their ID to orange or something instead of Red/White to indicate they are stabilized.

Then PD can have our old /drag and MD gets a new /drag, or even better yet we can do like /stretcher ID, which does what I mentioned above. We can keep /drag for less serious injuries, but I think the dragging near the hip is better overall for MD.