Bring back some supers

[Smoke1]

I know this is going to be a mixed reaction but there are so many vehicles that outperform supercars I don't know why we can't buy some of them. I understand there are some special cars in the credit store and I really appreciate the opportunity to have purchased them during special sales events. My suggestion would be to go through and add some supers maybe ones that people don't own so it doesn't devalue them or maybe that's the whole point of devaluing some of these cars?? Some of these cars are 25-50 million dollars and that's unattainable by anybody that hasn't played since the beginning Now I'm not saying that is a bad thing as they are a supercar but the argument would be with the introduction of HSW to PC in way of the speaker and shift lever.  There are a magnitude of cars that can reach top speed and handle very well so the argument of they handle too good and drive too fast is out the window because you can pick up a vehicle for example the Stinger TT or if you had the opportunity to buy one of the credit ones that outperformed most supers. The police have found ways to combat the speeds and just because you have a fast car you don't always get away.  I would really really enjoy seeing the introduction of some of these supers back into the server for regular people to buy you know maybe 2-3M Instead of 40! 

Again I know this is going to be a mixed reaction to most of you especially people that have been here that long and have obtained some of these cars but you didn't obtain these at the prices they are to day and half of the supercars in the server are never driven because they're in people's garages that don't play. There's something almost majestic when you see some of these beautiful cars driving around the city and I would just like to see more of them there's a video somewhere of a bunch of supers at drift arena doing races they were plentiful back then now they are few and far between.

[Demonmit1]

Supers are coveted cause they are rare and expensive. making them easier to acquire would entirely diminish their appeal. they're not meant to be fast, they're a status symbol. 

if there are GTA classified supers that haven't been added to the server yet, they need 1 model in the server. adding multiple models of the same super for the sake of them being more accessible i think is a bad idea. 

Edit:

if a player who owns a super becomes inactive, the car should be repossessed, the car put back up on auction/raffle, and the previous owner given the auction/raffle amount as compensation. limit supercar ownership to 1 per player, just like stores.

Edited October 17, 2024 by Demonmit1

[Freclan]

-1, as a supercar owner myself, the whole appeal of a super is that it's an exclusive item that's rare and meant to turn heads. If it becomes a common purchase for others then it loses the only thing that makes it appealing. Especially when they're not that fast compared to Niobes or GTO's. It's something that's meant to take a few years to attain or be winnable through a raffle. When you make enough money to be in the tens of millions, you really only have three things to purchase; a scripted business, a super and rare guns, taking away one of those things would just leave the businesses and guns. For non criminal roleplayers this only leaves businesses.

I am in support of more active raffles and different events to gain these exclusive items however, this way they don't lose their charm and more of the community is able to get the vehicles.

[It’sDoom]

so I understand both sides of the super car debate. ive been on eclipse since 2018 and i have always been pro-super cars being available. 
 

as most people want them, the price of them and limited amount that come up for sale can be very deterring for a newer player to pursue one. the status of owning a super is something a lot of people want. adding the ETR1 back to the f6 store was a great decision to make a cool car more available.

 

on the opposite side if this, in the eyes of someone who already owns a super, i can see where they are coming from. the grind to own a super is long, and sometimes even requires a little bit of luck. the idea of a supercar on eclispe is very romanticized in a way, due to the lack of supply. having a small amount of them in the city gives a “oh shit, look at that beauty” feeling rather than just not seeing anything out of the ordinary.

 

its a difficult topic to make both sides happy, but i feel like adding some limited f6 store supers every couple months for a week or so at 11500 credits would keep supers rare, and keep non-bitcoin ones still valuable as none of the current vehicles would be in the f6. 

 

overall, i am +1 on adding more supers into the city, but on a very limited basis.

[PurplePlant]

Great suggestion, I will add that;

- Super cars are sometimes available in the f6 credit store for a limited amount of time every so often

- Auctions and raffles happen to allow more people access to them

- Private sales do happen and are high value due to limited availability. I personally like this as it gives a big money sink for those long term players looking for something special to own.

- Some cars considered "supers" were recently added to dealership, tanking the price and perceived status as a super car. This could mean now that people don't consider them special.

 

Overall, the limited quality and special looks is usually what makes it worth the money. Once it's not worth as much or easily available it's less attractive to buy.

Edited October 17, 2024 by PurplePlant

[Quietthecutie]

Honestly id just make them seasonal/limited stock, put up quarterly random rotation on the credit store, so say, this fall the drag will be available for a week then be taken off the store. check back this winter to see whats up next.

that way they still remain exclusive whilst giving people the opportunity to buy them and the server a chance to make more money off them which the server always needs.

[Chrisy]

I’m on the -1 of this honestly. 

 

Putting something like this in the credit store is a horrible idea, great idea for devs to make money but just shit for anyone who has a super and sure it might remove the value of these cars but cars are already shit value unless it’s a meta car. When I first started making some money back years ago my end goal of everything was to purchase an XA-21 which luckily enough I was able to purchase in and around 2019. Now this took months of saving money, buying and trading stuff such as a scripted gun store, swapping multiple expensive vehicles etc. 

 

Like said in the above posts they are more of a status thing rather than a being used for performance excluding a few cars. I do agree that there could be more however I think this should be handled via raffles and auctions hosted by the staff team. 

The thing I see is if they’re just being added so more people can own them where do you draw the line, do you keep adding more businesses too because John Doe wasn’t able to get one? It’s just one of those things where I don’t feel every player should have access to and I know the struggle of getting them. As for the 40 million claim that’s rare enough, there’s been multiple supers recently that have been purchased for less than that and as an example Jonas Eriksen actually has one for sale which there is basically no interest in.

[Smoke1]

21 hours ago, Chrisy said:

I’m on the -1 of this honestly. 

 

Putting something like this in the credit store is a horrible idea, great idea for devs to make money but just shit for anyone who has a super and sure it might remove the value of these cars but cars are already shit value unless it’s a meta car. When I first started making some money back years ago my end goal of everything was to purchase an XA-21 which luckily enough I was able to purchase in and around 2019. Now this took months of saving money, buying and trading stuff such as a scripted gun store, swapping multiple expensive vehicles etc. 

 

Like said in the above posts they are more of a status thing rather than a being used for performance excluding a few cars. I do agree that there could be more however I think this should be handled via raffles and auctions hosted by the staff team. 

The thing I see is if they’re just being added so more people can own them where do you draw the line, do you keep adding more businesses too because John Doe wasn’t able to get one? It’s just one of those things where I don’t feel every player should have access to and I know the struggle of getting them. As for the 40 million claim that’s rare enough, there’s been multiple supers recently that have been purchased for less than that and as an example Jonas Eriksen actually has one for sale which there is basically no interest in.

that's actually a good point, where do you draw the line an does it end with cars!! Yes the value of them isn't what it used to be, 

[Freyster]

To be honest, what would be cool is a exclusive car dealership where people can list/auction or dev‘s/HA can put in supercars which get auctioned off via script, this would be changing the economy and also be very fun to be on a bidding war with others. (NCZ for obvious reasons) but yea, to make some cars available even as 1:1 or in general a different dealership led by devs would be what i think would be fun with the options of auctions, listings and monthly availability of a car or something.

[Quietthecutie]

honestly you could split the +/- of this suggestion into two groups fairly neatly. those who dont have them, and those who already have them. its not really reaching.

[Timmaayy]

I don't believe supercars should be brought back to dealerships or the credit store. I think that compared to a few years ago there are far more supers than there was, these are being slowly introduced via raffles/auctions as well as the occasional credit store sale. This is being done to keep a balance, after all, we don't want the entire community speeding around.

[Bala]

Plus, if you did this Osvaldon and NBDY would probably have to use real money to pay me for my modding efforts. 

If more and more people have super cars, they lose their value which isn't in the performance but in the look of the vehicle and the novelty of owning one or three.

[Smoke1]

3 lol I mean u work ur ass off for it so justified 

[Dima]

Imagine businesses have a cap on how many can own and super not? Crazy with how some mod/dev get gifted super for their hard work understandable but for legal and crim need to grind 10x to be able to afford one.

21 hours ago, Timmaayy said:

I don't believe supercars should be brought back to dealerships or the credit store. I think that compared to a few years ago there are far more supers than there was, these are being slowly introduced via raffles/auctions as well as the occasional credit store sale. This is being done to keep a balance, after all, we don't want the entire community speeding around.

 

[Requiem]

1 hour ago, Dima said:

Imagine businesses have a cap on how many can own and super not? Crazy with how some mod/dev get gifted super for their hard work understandable but for legal and crim need to grind 10x to be able to afford one.

 

If Mods are being gifted supers, sign me up cuz I sure haven't gotten one, and I am not aware of any other mods getting one either. 

Seriously though, I don't believe supers should be regularly available. I do however think that there should be a way to account for the inactive players that have one thats just sat in parking never to be pulled out again. Should have similar rules where it gets auctioned/raffled off after the 90 days of inactivity. 

[Quietthecutie]

4 hours ago, Requiem said:

Should have similar rules where it gets auctioned/raffled off after the 90 days of inactivity. 

I presume you dont also mean bitcoins. lemme spend hundreds of bucks on my virtual brrrm brrm, take a 3 month break come back and see they are all sold.

[Spizor]

I don't believe supercars should be added to dealerships, auctioned for inactivity, or added to the credit store.

Adding them to the credit store is not a compromise for keeping them rare; that will lead to them being everywhere, just like the Niobe/Itali GTO.

I also would like to keep my supercar that I've had for years in case, for some unfortunate reason, I couldn't access the game for three months. It makes no sense to me for supercars to be auctioned that way.

Supercars shouldn't be accessible to everyone, and they don't need to be. You're not meant to see supercars driving around all the time; that's normal. If someone has other vehicles to use and prefers to take out their supercar(s) only for events and whatnot, why should they be punished for that? Supercars should stay as they are.

[Smoke1]

Lots of good ideas and points here!! 

[Requiem]

On 10/21/2024 at 7:00 PM, Quietthecutie said:

I presume you dont also mean bitcoins. lemme spend hundreds of bucks on my virtual brrrm brrm, take a 3 month break come back and see they are all sold.

No, I am not talking about credit store stuff. This would strictly be for the 1 of 1 raffle/auction cars. The person who owned it should of course get some, if not all of the money from that as well in case they return. 

[Ritchie Stones]

On 10/22/2024 at 1:00 AM, Quietthecutie said:

I presume you dont also mean bitcoins. lemme spend hundreds of bucks on my virtual brrrm brrm, take a 3 month break come back and see they are all sold.

i think they mean the not bitcoin ones that be repossessed and put up for action, paying 250 dollar or euro
just to have to taken away is real crazy XD, if the player never gets online what does that matter anyway 

[Ritchie Stones]

as i proposed the idea to put those super cars into the credit store, and the next morning it literally happened.
i was 1 of the 5 lucky ones who got to purchase the Italy GTO last january
soon it became 1 of 3, since one was deported and one stopped coming in town.

i think adding more supers to the credit store would shorten the lifespan of the player staying in the city.
as hypocritical as I look right now, "since I got what I wanted".
 think if adding those cars or even the casino, makes ppl gives the feeling of final accomplishment.
and so they get bored and stop playing the game.

the 5 GTO's last January where a nice experiment, since only 2 of them where occasionally seen after the 3th month, the rest just fell off, I'm still very happy though with the cars I bought, I got the D10 and niobe later aswell.

I'm not sure where to place the right judgement since I think anyone should have access to those cars.
yet, if certain items like super cars, are more easy to access it kills the dream of having one simultaneous,
and kills the feeling of purpose to obtain something very unique. 
owning a super car, casino, puts you very quickly into the " so whats next?" and it leaves a bit of a void.
so this is a very big contradiction. 
 

[Valor]

-1, they're meant to be a status item, they're not limited due to performance, they're limited because they're meant to be rare.