FarmerJesus Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 Okay so I would like to start off by saying, I have heard multiple different people say either 1 or the other about this whether it be "as long as there is proof RP of hiding your gun you are fine" or "you cant RP to hide your gun" and i just wanted to get it figured out. I feel as if criminals should be able to do something like this And im not saying its valid rp all the time because if your character is wearing something like a skint tight body suit that wouldnt work but if my character was wearing something like as shown below it would be free rein to do that type of RP because you can only see the gun no clipping the smallest amount It just doesn't seem fair if the gun clips like that and I still get harassed by PD/SD for having a .50 when I have valid RP and its barely seen (this is all very badly put together but i hope yall see the main point im trying to make) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 +1 I don't see why you wouldn't be able to RPly hiding your gun as people do it all the time in real life and people don't just have it out, although i can understand that "you cant ignore what you see" but there should 100% be something like rply hiding your gun instead of having to keep your gun in your car whenever you get out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbatman08 Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 +1 if there isn't any scriptly way to hide your gun it makes it unfair on criminals, rply hiding your gun makes sense, it doesn't have to work every time but it should mean there is also a chance that the gun isn't seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbo Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 +1 This is actually already a thing you're able to do. You just have to have proof of RP to show to the cops or whoever you're interacting with. It's the same thing with licenses, you can RP not having it if you do RP and have proof of that as to why you wouldn't have it or if it'd be hidden. The potential for stuff you could do is infinite if you do it properly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJesus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Herbo said: +1 This is actually already a thing you're able to do. You just have to have proof of RP to show to the cops or whoever you're interacting with. It's the same thing with licenses, you can RP not having it if you do RP and have proof of that as to why you wouldn't have it or if it'd be hidden. The potential for stuff you could do is infinite if you do it properly! So this is exactly why i made this, I was getting reponses like this from support and such. i would also like to add there stuff like taht in pd/sd's handbook Edited March 5, 2023 by FarmerJesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingFancyYT Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 +1 For example if you drive your car, irl you would hide your ak under your seat or somewhere. This way maybe people wouldn't glitch and make the invisible gun on your back just for "meta". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Valentine Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 -1 if u can see it, it’s fair game. that’s how it’s always been. put it in a bag or your glovebox. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 +1 Or even better make it if you wear longer jackets its just scriptly hidden! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerJesus Posted March 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trall said: +1 Or even better make it if you wear longer jackets its just scriptly hidden! ive tried that but none of them look good and if you run most of them show the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trall Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, FarmerJesus said: ive tried that but none of them look good and if you run most of them show the gun No I mean like they could make it so if you have a long coat it hides it fully. However there is a clothing update happening at some point so we never know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Einhart Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) I will always advocate for "what you see is what you get." If others can see the gun, I think it's reasonable they should be able to take action based on that information. They have no idea if you've done whatever RP to hide something that's clearly visible, and it grinds IC interactions to a halt once you start an argument in OOC chat saying it actually isn't visible, people demanding proof, etc. And even if people accept your RP that it isn't visible, suddenly we're in a really awkward situation where the IC interaction has to be voided by non-moderators. It's just really awkward and unfun experience in my mind. If the developers provide a way to let people hide guns, fine. But it used to be that some guns were actually hidden, which made those guns have a use case: the 50 is powerful but visible, but others were invisible. Each weapon had its pros and cons. I think that was a good gameplay feature, if unintended. But right now I think trying to use /mes and /dos that others can't see until an argument starts OOC isn't the way to go. Use a bag. Major bag alert. Edited March 6, 2023 by Victor Einhart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plexrr Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 Huge +1, it’s not fair that people (especially cops) can “see” the gun when in reality us crims or even legal people would hide it under our shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 The problem is you have to explain the RP you did OOCly to every person you come across to make this work. Also, this is considered Alt RP and would require server staff permission to do so since you are doing some that goes against the script. If the Dev's designed it this way, it was probably done so for a reason and going against that would be an issue unless rules or the feature was changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ2toke Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) On 3/6/2023 at 1:47 PM, Bill Breacher said: The problem is you have to explain the RP you did OOCly to every person you come across to make this work. Also, this is considered Alt RP and would require server staff permission to do so since you are doing some that goes against the script. If the Dev's designed it this way, it was probably done so for a reason and going against that would be an issue unless rules or the feature was changed. +1 Depending the cloths you should use common sense to determine if the gun can be hidden. Same as robbery rules where we must consider realistic population. Same with a gun being hidden. Big rain coats or jackets for example even of you scriptly see it we should still suppse its covered. Edited March 10, 2023 by AJ2toke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 I believe this should be a thing so you get a +1 from me. It should be in the script having the ability to conceal your weapon. It would be nice to get some feedback on this from high ranking admins on this situation so we know where we stand exactly. Whether people like to admit it or not, most people like to carry a weapon on them if they're a crim and the police do metagame seeing the gun, it just is the way it is. We shouldn't be forced to wear certain/ugly clothing to hide our weapons just to stop getting metagamed. We really need to find a fix on this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Avon said: I believe this should be a thing so you get a +1 from me. It should be in the script having the ability to conceal your weapon. It would be nice to get some feedback on this from high ranking admins on this situation so we know where we stand exactly. Whether people like to admit it or not, most people like to carry a weapon on them if they're a crim and the police do metagame seeing the gun, it just is the way it is. We shouldn't be forced to wear certain/ugly clothing to hide our weapons just to stop getting metagamed. We really need to find a fix on this problem. No one is "metagaming" seeing a gun. The server script is designed to show the gun if you have it in your inventory anywhere. If the script is meant to show it, and someone else see's it, then its fair game and not against any rules. In the current state of things, you need either hide the gun with clothing items so it can't be seen, or keep it in another container, such as a bag, or in your car if you are going to have it with you to prevent it from being seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxTheIrishGuyxX Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 +1. There should be an option to conceal weapons. This shouldn't be hard to put in the server... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeternaNex Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 +1 !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 @Paulius - Can we get your thoughts on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Montoya Posted July 7, 2023 Report Share Posted July 7, 2023 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Raven Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 @Victor Einhart is on the money. I think the last thing players want is others making IC decisions based on something that is RP'ly hidden but scriptly unhidden, it causes confusion. Unless a script solution is developed to hide weapons then you are better off finding clothing that fully hides the weapon, which does exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowick Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Big -1. This would just turn into instant /b every single time I interact with somebody that has a VISIBLE firearm arguing "You can't see the gun you are seeing!". There are already scripted ways to hide weapons (briefcase, bag, glove box, trunk, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietthecutie Posted October 25, 2023 Report Share Posted October 25, 2023 im kinda on the fence with this one. On one hand, yep, rply makes perfect sense that you can hide a sidearm under any shirt that isnt skin tight. On the other hand, unless they are scriptly hidden i.e the game is coded so sidearms go invisible when equipped with the right clothing, both LEOs and other players can still see the sidearm even if they cannot acknowlege it icly. this leaves us open to situations where players plan situations and gunfights based on OOC knowlege. this would be impossible to moderate. Perhaps an interesting middle ground would be to only have smaller weapons like SNS and Combat pistols be hidden. this would both make more sense than someone trying to hide a .50 in their jeans and also give those often neglected weapons a place in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cup Posted October 28, 2023 Report Share Posted October 28, 2023 Ya honestly, unless there is way to scriptly HIDE the gun i feel like RP hiding them will just cause confusion and more problems then its work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
