Glaikit Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Since I've been back for 2 weeks, I've been VPM'd more times than I have in nearly 3000 hours of playing eclipse RP. My friends and allies are also saying the same thing. It seems like people have finally caught on that you can /vpm [ID] to find out any criminals name just by seeing their ID. These names are being used ICly on the daily to find out gang member's names etc. I see no reason why the /pm function isn't sufficient enough to inform people of any OOC messages you need to get to them. Remove VPM entirely and stop the metagaming. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunder Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Obviously if they're doing this then please report them! I can see absolutely how this can be abused even unintentionally. VPM is just confusing, we have PMs already and the only difference is the colour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyme Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 /pm [Name] works the exact same - im not sure why VPM gives the players name +1 for me men 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex303 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Metagaming is bad, but, if we're being realistic, what can a person really do with your character's name? I don't think removing a whole feature is justified based on what was already provided. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyme Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, alexalex303 said: Metagaming is bad, but, if we're being realistic, what can a person really do with your character's name? I don't think removing a whole feature is justified based on what was already provided. I get that, but it's not like removing the feature has any negative effect when you can just /pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjaer Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 I've only been /vpm'd by people who disagree with my IC actions OOC'ly and are trying to make their point look more legitimate via the special formatting of text. I think above is enough of a reason to remove a feature that otherwise doesn't really have any benefits and a bunch of downsides. It is almost as pointless as the donators channel in discord. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaikit Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, alexalex303 said: Metagaming is bad, but, if we're being realistic, what can a person really do with your character's name? I don't think removing a whole feature is justified based on what was already provided. It’s hardly a “feature” when the normal /pm works perfectly fine just without exposing your name. There are certain RP scenarios in which your anonymity is extremely important. Only to be VPM’d 2 minutes after the RP so they know exactly who did it. It’s being abused on a massive scale and there’s no upsides to it only negatives can come from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaikit Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not to mention it’s locked behind a paywall aswell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin James Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 +1, why is this even a feature?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) +1 or make it work the same way as masks with name hidden if masked. Edited December 10, 2022 by Celestial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alannn Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 +1 For me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanro Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) I can see how its bad, because as something as simple as "/vpm 69 Hey nice bike man!" Gives you their character name and it can be used for malicious ways, for example metagaming what masked members of opposing gangs are hanging around. On the other hand if that information is used in-character it is considered a rule break, so you should probably be noting and reporting those instances too. I can't remember the last time I was ever seriously /vpm'd (sent or recieved) in my 4 years of being in this community. It doesn't really have it's place, and would probably have zero downsides if it was removed, or you could change it to how the regular /pm works, with aliases hidden when masked. Small +1 from me. Edited January 7, 2023 by Hanro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Moved to the proper section. We'll bring this up, thank you for raising the concern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueFlame Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 1+ this is being used to know people's name by their ID and this happened to me 2 times when they ask for your name ICly but if you don't tell them they will abuse this feature. Also makes 0 sense to have an OOC ability like this just because you paid money. Edited January 7, 2023 by Shadyar8023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 Seems like it was something left over from 2017 that was never fixed when the ID system was changed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMattch Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 +1 on this as well, there's no reason for it to exist anymore in addition to a normal /pm Bring back bleets I say! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralIroh Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 +½ on this. Remove the /vpm feature exposing the Fname_Lname and just have it behave the same as "/pm sent to Player [ID]" but keep the color for those that still want the fancy green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 /vpm will either be removed or changed to how /pm functions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
