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Thank you for your response. I do not seem to understand what's wrong with chasing an enemy that was involved in a huge shootout, he's a threat. We knew the risks and everything, that's why we planned for it. As I said the scenario would have been different if he didn't FEAR RP, we would have moved him to a secluded location and get information regarding his gang. The same question goes to you again; If you're getting shot, you would shoot back no? As you can see from my POV I just followed the chase, he shoots first, I shoot back to defend myself. I'm not going to let my character die. I hope you understand that a huge loss wasn't lost from both sides, we're all here to learn from this grey area situation as I wasn't even fully aware this is close to an NCZ. A warning would have been sufficient for this incident or a good discussion so we can improve.

Fixed, sorry for the inconvience.

Character name(s): Ash Volkov Admin who issued punishment: Aldari_Tagril Date of punishment: 22/Sep/20 03:41 AM Punishment received: Non-RP #4 | NCZ & Poor RP Reason given for punishment: We were chasing a guy from a shootout at right-lake, he gets out at this specific place at the fire station starts shooting me, so some of us blast him down. Your explanation of what happened: There was an ambush setup by GD and LFM, after serious planning we counter attack and down some of them. A lot of people code0'd during the shootout, a LFM guy driving a red phantom fairly visible was ramming constantly, getting out and trying to shoot people. We chase him down, he stalls, gets out and starts shooting me, and most of us blast him down. Why should your appeal be accepted?: This is what I call a grey-area situation which everyone can learn from. As far as I'm aware the firestation isn't scripted as NCZ, It's fairly far as well from Sandy MD, so I'm kinda confused at this point but I'm always down to learn. Regarding my POV and my side I would like to point I just defended myself in this point and acted accordingly as anyone would do realistically, if you're getting shot, you're going to shoot back and defend yourself. Regarding the Poor RP statement, as the rules sate in the player theft rules section if the reported player (LFM guy) has exchanged shots and tried harm you in any way, anywhere you can shoot him down. I'm sorry for my actions if they did prevent RP or something, but if the guy didn't fear RP going against 12 people, we would have took him to a hidden/secluded location and had more RP involved. I hope you understand my side and everyone one of my teammates/allies involved as I feel like each and one of us don't go on daily basis to rulebreak and this wasn't even intentional. If Aldari was spectating and we were doing something wrong and explained to us, I'm pretty sure everyone one of us would have be down to re-do it.. Post any evidence or further details: https://streamable.com/i5571c Ash.

@Eoghan_Macc Good story Macc, your interactions with you ICLY have been respectful and astonishing, keep it up!

This.

I didn't know how it's an insult when i'm pointing a fact, when you guys bring 20+ more people to camp a turf everyday for the sole reason because we're "rooks" with heavy weapons near an apartment complex and beyond breach of NLR. Plus I didn't stall and you know that. During the active RP, I was just stating and alerting in /b while you guys were even idle don't know how to continue your role-play because at the end of the day all you cared about is to start a random shootout. While we are we idle for some reason by yourself and your mates, since /b is OOC, I mentioned how you were meta gaming and stalling yesterday during your RP scenario which happened yesterday on my alt, where you took ages to respond but didn't care to report because it's a minor issue which sometimes people tend to "space out" or take a minute or two to realize what's going on. This is a petty report end of the day, I gave you what you came for and were camping for.

Hey I would like to thank whoever staff dealing with it and thank you Rex Rodgers for creating the report. First of all I would like to point out a simple message from the official rules guidelines; Please do not take reporting another player lightly and reserve player reports for situations that have caused severe loss or were abused for benefit. Consider if you could possibly teach this player or if you've tried to come to a resolution on your own. Reporting another player should be reserved for your final options when a rule breach has occurred. Always try to teach other players in the community, especially with newer players, as well as help them truly understand your point of view prior to simply reporting them if something doesn't go your way. So firstly, I was trying to visit our turf as our presence is mostly there as you know ICLY, I was about to head off since I had an FM meeting to attend to. I personally didn't stall one bit and let me tell you why and you can ask the questions to yourself. Did I comply to your demands?: Yes I did, I complied with every demand you gave me all the way through. Did I stall the situation to call for backup?: No I clearly did not, backup didn't came to the situation until the very end. The only statements I said in /b, because we had an announcement camping on turfs with the role reason to attack because we're rooks is invalid, we are not in an official war. The other statements I alerted you both you and your friend Tyler Rogers for trying to create a hostage/kidnap situation without any consent and that for me is disturbing. You did not lose anything whatsoever at this situation and I responded to every /me's and /do's. If you really want to talk about rule breaks in this scenario, can you please explain why you and your friend Tyler_Rogers created a kidnap/hostage situation without my consent? Some of the /b's are even me telling you I'm going to forward you proof regarding contact list/messages/notes. Trying to get bits and pieces to make like a junk of /OOC is beyond something out of the ordinary. I knew Rex Rodgers intentions at the end he recently came back from being banned due to being OOC toxic towards me and this feels like a revenge report. Seems to me as you stated you in your ban appeal you're here to be peaceful towards everyone and make them enjoy your stay. This literally proves your attitude didn't change one bit and lied to yourself in your ban appeal, but that's up to the staff team. If any admin wants me to respond further I'll be happy to do so.

aye man for sure +1

+1 yes please

this would make my life easier, yes please

Hey Aldarine, unfortunately I do not have extended footage of this thought this would be fine, yesterday out of habit deleted old videos to free space for new recordings

Player(s) being reported: ID 233 - Abilio Fresh Date of interaction reported: 7/22/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1595368809 Your characters name: Ash Volkov Other player(s) involved: My crew, Irish and Goblins Specific rule(s) broken: 13. Fear Roleplay (FRP) Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is considered to be in direct danger: • When you are on foot or bike and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. • When you’re in a vehicle that is off and a weapon is aimed at you at close range. • When the attacker lowers their weapon to type or roleplay, your life remains in direct danger. • Driving a vehicle into an active shootout more than once without the intent of providing cover for a friend or yourself, or fleeing with it. Examples (but not limited to), where your character’s life is NOT considered to be in direct danger: • When you are in a car which engine is not stalled. • When you have a firearm drawn and are facing the other person before they attacked. • When the attacker’s view is obstructed by an object or when they turn their back on you. As a victim, whose life is in direct danger: • You must display reasonable value for your life and comply with the demands of your attacker. How did the player break the rule(s)? We were in a big shootout at route68, killed abilio and several of his teammates, i had a gun near his head and keeps on radioing showing no value of his life whatsoever. Notified him to save pov: Evidence of rule breach: https://streamable.com/ho3hnc

Can confirm this. Spoke to Ballin about it myself, it's quite annoying since it can be abused silently and sometimes they can even get notified about drop locations and time sequence.

It's funny how when you break rules, you instantly come to my DM's on discord and try to resolve, we didn't break any rule on this or even TRIED and you instantly went to forums. Have nothing else to say to you, although what happened wasn't our fault, we did what's best for us and decide to extract the package, we still wanted to offer compensation.

Hey Jasmine, what do you mean your crew no longer have the drop secured? There was 15+ of us with heavies, our mission was to extract the package and fight it along the way. The questions that everyone in this situation needs to ask this; 1. Did we invite SD to start chasing us? Of course not, we were planning to extract it and fight it out. I even was surprised when SD decided to pursue which was our extractor, our plan all along. I even said "Are you kidding me"? 2. Did we even fight SD/SWAT/PD, my crew? No, so how did we cop-bait? I still don't get how this is all In-character situation that evolved, there's no rulebreak saying you cannot pursue a chase or fight a drop because SD decided to intercept or stop the high pursuit vehicle we needed to extract the package and dip. Nonetheless we had 15+ with heavies to defend the extractor and let him dip but in this case Keavin shot without plausible demands by not threating Mario_Volkov aiming with his weapon, but just shouting words. Once again, Keavin has broke rules on previous interactions with us and was reasonable enough to give him a chance and reason with him, in this situation he didn't even talk to me, we even said we could compensate by having a word. Quite displeased how he instantly went to forums without even informing me to save POV.