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Cap server FPS to 120 or add a 220 Speed cap

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Posted
7 minutes ago, inorigj said:

players with higher FPS will surpass 240. not just reach it. their Speed-o-meter will say 240, but they're going faster

Is that one of those urban myths like the 200 ap cops apparently had or is that legit lmao

Posted
3 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

If you want the server donators trust to tank in the ground then definitely touch the credit vehicles that people spend money on. Even if it means the cap to be lowered overal. The fact that more cars are competitive compared to those expensive bought credit cars takes away the whole reason why they where bought. 
 

so if you think this is bad?, wait till there is no more donations flowing in the server leading to pull the plug and you have no more city to play in at all, 

If it were actually the case that the only people propping up this server financially, are the ones that only do so to 'pay to win' with the credit cars then we should close the fucking community tomorrow. That's not hubris, I'm absolutely serious about my stance on that.

The server was absolutely fine for donations, pre-meta credit cars and if we're being completely honest, the amount of people that would still donate even for vehicles that are not on the pay to win scale would more than cover the upkeep costs on a monthly basis for a server of this size.

Frankly, if the server carries on being supported with development updates, people will be more than willing to part with their hard earned money to support the server. Because that's what you're donating for, or at least should be, for the best interests of the community you play in.

Plenty of ways to look after those people that have bought meta cars without continuing to support pay to win mechanics.

Posted
13 minutes ago, Bala said:

Is that one of those urban myths like the 200 ap cops apparently had or is that legit lmao

unlike the 200AP myth. this one is actually true. we tested it a little while ago

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Posted (edited)

I can't quite reach aliens from another Galaxy but I have a good computer Unfortunately every game in the world is FPS based You're a better shooter in first person shooters if you have a better computer better at racing it's just better all-around I don't think limiting FPS would make a lot of people happy

Edited by Smoke1
Posted

Yeah as I said this entire post will be 50/50, all the people who go 240 and have a lot of FPS are against it and the rest of the community are for it. My main thing for this is balance in the community as right now it currently offers a unfair competitive advantage which is not available to all players, it cannot be bought with credits, it cannot be earned, its a client sided advantage which greatly changes the aspect of pursuits and races making it completely one sided. I have no idea how a racing script will work if people are faster than others in the same exact car. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

If you want the server donators trust to tank in the ground then definitely touch the credit vehicles that people spend money on. Even if it means the cap to be lowered overal. The fact that more cars are competitive compared to those expensive bought credit cars takes away the whole reason why they where bought. 
 

so if you think this is bad?, wait till there is no more donations flowing in the server leading to pull the plug and you have no more city to play in at all, 

if you only bought credit cars so you could do 240, then you are part of the problem.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Jay_Valentino said:

Yeah as I said this entire post will be 50/50, all the people who go 240 and have a lot of FPS are against it and the rest of the community are for it. My main thing for this is balance in the community as right now it currently offers a unfair competitive advantage which is not available to all players, it cannot be bought with credits, it cannot be earned, its a client sided advantage which greatly changes the aspect of pursuits and races making it completely one sided. I have no idea how a racing script will work if people are faster than others in the same exact car. 

I'd agree with it but a knowledgeable person told you it's impossible to implement reliably. The only other option is to force everyone on enhanced which is still very buggy. 

I think the best compromise would be to lower the speed cap to 200 or 220, since most people can reach that easily. 

Posted

Enhanced really is the ideal option here if it were to be more stable. I get people like to have their high FPS and want to utilize it, but those with high FPS have such a significant competitive edge where it does cause a lot of imbalances, especially in the police pursuit side of things. Also is it really that bad playing capped at 120-144 hertz? Could be worth it to just test it out and see what people think and then go from there, just in the meantime until Enhanced gets more optimized.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, alexalex303 said:

I'd agree with it but a knowledgeable person told you it's impossible to implement reliably. The only other option is to force everyone on enhanced which is still very buggy. 

I think the best compromise would be to lower the speed cap to 200 or 220, since most people can reach that easily.

Hopefully there is a way to do it, we have a lot of resourceful people here that could figure something out. 

Currently you might be right a speed cap could be one of the only ways unless we could make the move to enhanced, however if everyone is capped at 220 you'll just have everyone going around at 220 like a rat race. But it could be good too, it could mean for pursuits cops would be able to use different cars and be able to keep up for once and not have to use meta cars, it would open up the entire car list from being meh, to actually viable to evade in as all anyone wants now is a car that does 240 so they can evade from the 240 cops. Could make races less about FPS and more about skill. Defo worth a try at bringing the top speed down to 220 and testing to see how everyone likes it.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Bala said:

Is that one of those urban myths like the 200 ap cops apparently had or is that legit lmao

I’ve personally tested this “urban myth” multiple times and it’s true. 
 

I’m surprised that a member of LEO like yourself hasn’t noticed that certain criminals and cops perform differently in the same cars, like how certain cops can get a steady 240kmph in a Buffalo and others can’t. 
 

you should try to be more observant 

Posted

+1 

Recently just started getting a solid 300fps and I’m noticeably WAY faster in the same cars.  I’m tired of having to demoralize PD every day and drive laps around them

 I think the FPS cap is a good idea, it’ll show us who can actually drive and who can’t

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Posted
11 minutes ago, penguinkibble said:

I’ve personally tested this “urban myth” multiple times and it’s true. 

Bala was talking about different thing.

High fps will make you go to 240, but it won't make you go faster than 240, which is what Bala was replying too 

 

Unless when it was bugged, the 240 km/h speed cap holds.

 

As someone who has high fps, I am in support of this if it was doable, or lowering the speed cap so that other vehicles are viable

 

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, AnnoyingOne said:

High fps will make you go to 240, but it won't make you go faster than 240, which is what Bala was replying too

Factually incorrect but go on.

Bala was asking me if it was true or a myth. Bala knows I'm just out here making up bogymen. When I'm presented with facts disproving my statements I always correct it, but on this matter. I've had it personally tested and had it confirmed in person. So I know its true.

 

If you don't believe me, I recommend taking 2 or more with 350+ fps and equal amount of players with 70fps and do some straight away testing. all in the same cars, with the same mods. maxed engine, highest suspension, any spoiler and off-road tires.

 

**Note: We're not going by the Hud showing our Speed. because that will say 240. As your game will think its going 240.

Edited by inorigj
Posted
14 hours ago, Jay_Valentino said:

Yeah as I said this entire post will be 50/50, all the people who go 240 and have a lot of FPS are against it and the rest of the community are for it. My main thing for this is balance in the community as right now it currently offers a unfair competitive advantage which is not available to all players, it cannot be bought with credits, it cannot be earned, its a client sided advantage which greatly changes the aspect of pursuits and races making it completely one sided. I have no idea how a racing script will work if people are faster than others in the same exact car. 

but this is every fps bases game

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Smoke1 said:

but this is every fps bases game

Not really though. 

Higher fps nowadays only means that there is less jumps as someone moves between frames. 

 

Actual game bugs due to high fps are rare though. It used to be a thing in the past, where animations or physics were tied to frames, but nowadays every engine gives you instructions how to tie the physics, etc to a fixed timer instead of a fps one.

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Posted
20 hours ago, Homast said:

I say they should do it just to spite you at this pointfor what???  For putting in some basic consumer knowledge? You dont mess with things people payd money for. How do you not expect that to have a psychological effect on people ? And what is this for kind of answer….

Posted
18 minutes ago, Ritchie Stones said:

you mean i am part of the people who actualy keep the plug in the server? 

There's tens of thousands of donators, including myself. If you only donated to have in-game advantages, you don't care about keeping the server up. If you did, it doesn't matter how slow your cars are; so either way, you're speaking against your point.

Posted
1 minute ago, alexalex303 said:

There's tens of thousands of donators, including myself. If you only donated to have in-game advantages, you don't care about keeping the server up. If you did, it doesn't matter how slow your cars are; so either way, you're speaking against your point.

Then why dont you donate for free?? 
Bet you never did

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