remove the GPS from the ATM robbing" with car"

[Ritchie Stones]

simple reality check, NOBODY IS USING IT.
why... because its an invention that is nothing more but a wild fantasy.
but the reality is that you are boxed in by cops in less than a minute, and have few more to go, so why bother all that misery for only 4k at best

I notice over the last few years the server is having actually amazing idea's but then go about completely overcomplicating things,
to the point nobody touches even ground on it. i think when you implement something and people don't use it, its time to ask question.
and I really wonder why the server doesn't just try out some experiments, for example take the GPS tracker away for a month and see what happens,
do people start doing them more and are the cops also happy about it, because they get more action in it to ?.


 

 

[Cup]

1 hour ago, Ritchie Stones said:

simple reality check, NOBODY IS USING IT.
why... because its an invention that is nothing more but a wild fantasy.
but the reality is that you are boxed in by cops in less than a minute, and have few more to go, so why bother all that misery for only 4k at best

I notice over the last few years the server is having actually amazing idea's but then go about completely overcomplicating things,
to the point nobody touches even ground on it. i think when you implement something and people don't use it, its time to ask question.
and I really wonder why the server doesn't just try out some experiments, for example take the GPS tracker away for a month and see what happens,
do people start doing them more and are the cops also happy about it, because they get more action in it to ?.


 

 

The problem with COMPLETELY removing it is that 90% of the time the ATM is invisible for LEO. However i would be all for shortening the time its active. It seems a bit excessive to me especially with the speed reduction on the vehicles.

 

Also idk what data your using but there are multiple ATMS stolen every day.

Edited November 16, 2024 by Cup

[Quietthecutie]

Yeah as cuppy said ATM tows are alot more common than you think. every SD shift i do i see a fair few calls for them across both juros. they do happen.

I think the real problem is at the moment ATM tows are probably the most bugged activity on the server. most of the time cops cant even see or hear the ATM when its in motion. so the tracker coupled together with a slower moving vehicle are really the only tell tale signs.

IF they managed to fix the mechanic so that you can consistently see the ATM being towed, I would be happy to increase the time between pings or reduce the total amount of pings before the ATM runs outa battery.

[HobGoblin]

The whole point of adding it was to give another way to rob atms. If you don’t like this way then use a crowbar. 

[Teenyinnit]

So I’ve played this on both sides and LEOs definitely have it easier and it is really fun to chase ATMs because you only have a certain amount of time to race across the map to find them before they vanish.

I agree the timer should be less though. But the reason it’s set so long is so that if there is only a couple LEO on duty and they’re on the other side of the map, they can get there just before time runs out.

idk personally I think this is the best addition the server has ever had but reducing the timer would give crims a better time as I’ve never personally successfully ripped and ATM.

[Loca_Mocha]

if it wasn't for the fact that my best truck doesn't have a trunk to pull ATM's. I'd be doing it way more often.

And as someone who's chased ATMs and been the one being chased. it's pretty easy to avoid LEOs with ATM's if you play it smart.

Also, I see several ATM GPS calls a day. from up north and in the city, so its very much used.

 

I do however agree that the timer needs to be reduced or the reward for getting away to be higher. 4k with the current GPS timer isn't exactly worth it. but I still find the interaction fun.

 

on the LEO's side of this. I HATE how I can see someone race past me. but I don't see the ATM. I don't know if that car was just driving recklessly or the ATM theft. forcing me to ether start following that car to see if the ATM's GPS follows it. or stop the car and check the map to see if the GPS is down the same road.

I could of course follow that car and just pray that it was the car with the ATM, but I've had 2 times where that wasn't the case and I was led away from the ATM. I wish it would apply some form of particle effect to the vehicle towing it. to give some sort of visual indicator that it is currently pulling something heavy and the engine is working overtime. 

 

fixing the ATM sync would be even better of course. but, that sounds more like a RageMP issue than a ECRP issue

[Eliza]

I’m gonna be so for real. I’m not risking hours in prison for 5k while I’m actively being seen by every cop unit logged on

 

Stealing the entire atms 100% need adjustment in my opinion

[Ritchie Stones]

23 hours ago, Loca_Mocha said:

if it wasn't for the fact that my best truck doesn't have a trunk to pull ATM's. I'd be doing it way more often.

And as someone who's chased ATMs and been the one being chased. it's pretty easy to avoid LEOs with ATM's if you play it smart.

Also, I see several ATM GPS calls a day. from up north and in the city, so its very much used.

 

I do however agree that the timer needs to be reduced or the reward for getting away to be higher. 4k with the current GPS timer isn't exactly worth it. but I still find the interaction fun.

 

on the LEO's side of this. I HATE how I can see someone race past me. but I don't see the ATM. I don't know if that car was just driving recklessly or the ATM theft. forcing me to ether start following that car to see if the ATM's GPS follows it. or stop the car and check the map to see if the GPS is down the same road.

I could of course follow that car and just pray that it was the car with the ATM, but I've had 2 times where that wasn't the case and I was led away from the ATM. I wish it would apply some form of particle effect to the vehicle towing it. to give some sort of visual indicator that it is currently pulling something heavy and the engine is working overtime. 

 

fixing the ATM sync would be even better of course. but, that sounds more like a RageMP issue than a ECRP issue

If only the gps spawn would be random during 5 minuts, and you had your speed of the car not slowed down that would be an improvement, i think the speed lowering is more ridiculous than the gps actualy   

[Cup]

The thing is as a LEO player i to see people get away with atms alot BUT its 100% based on if we are occupied or have units available.  Generally if ANYONE can respond to the call your kinda cooked

[Sibyrd]

should be reduced to 2 mins, 5 mins is absurd - you can cover the whole map in this time, basically no chance of getting away if theres a unit avialable. its a game of RNG

Edited January 3, 2025 by Sibyrd
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[Demonmit1]

I've been a part of several chases for atms, both running and chasing. Its still quite buggy, and the actual ATM rarely is visible for law enforcement. The reward needs to be greatly buffed, not a reduced tracking timer

 

Evading, felony public endangerment, assault with a deadly weapon of a gov, Grand theft, and full impound, all of those charges can easily be stacked up by Leo's. It's not worth a measly 5k. Breaking open atms is better for your effort, or if you have at least one friend, just rob a store. 

[Cup]

Slightly increase the reward. Reduce the speed nerf it puts on vehicles and I think it’s fine OR same thing but instead of reducing the speed nerf reduce the amount of time the gps is active 

[Eliza]

Increase the reward, or reduce the time you’re tracked on the map, right now the risk is too large.

Also let us cut the rope from the ATM early, under the stipulation that you don’t get a reward for it, so that you can cut your losses if you feel like you can’t get away with it.

[Diligo]

3 hours ago, Eliza said:

Increase the reward, or reduce the time you’re tracked on the map, right now the risk is too large.

Also let us cut the rope from the ATM early, under the stipulation that you don’t get a reward for it, so that you can cut your losses if you feel like you can’t get away with it.

if only it would be that easy. in this server even if you would cut the rope of the ATM, cops would still chase ;( 

[Cup]

I mean ya they should still chase you. but if you could cut the rope early you wouldnt have the gps tracker or your cars speed being heavily nerfed

[Bala]

It's somewhat complex to sync the object tied to a rope, if you aren't in loading distance of the atm object when it's pulled out of the wall. That's partly why you need the GPS.