JRBO Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 ive saw this idea circulating a bit but the it mostly seems to have been forgotten about. I think it would be a good idea if people could have their own private plantations by buying something like a planter box that allows some marijuana seeds to be planted. It could have some debuffs instead of using public spots just like how private tables need water put on them + use of protective gear and drugs take longer to produce etc. i think it makes most sense to have them be imported the same way tables are as theyll only be used by criminals and gangs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Stones Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, JRBO said: ive saw this idea circulating a bit but the it mostly seems to have been forgotten about. I think it would be a good idea if people could have their own private plantations by buying something like a planter box that allows some marijuana seeds to be planted. It could have some debuffs instead of using public spots just like how private tables need water put on them + use of protective gear and drugs take longer to produce etc. i think it makes most sense to have them be imported the same way tables are as theyll only be used by criminals and gangs Its been almost 3 years since that was first teased, meantime every update was very different and the past year was the year of the crims getting most updates. I heavyly doubt that it wil ever find place. i think main issue is the economy being totaly fucked if materials are that easy to get, and second issue is that, they just did everything to get us “OUT” the houses, and killed private in total, so i would be very surprised if suddenly we can have private plantations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietthecutie Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 This is not the direction the server is going. the devs dont want people to be able to generate money passively in their properties. 10 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said: i think main issue is the economy being totaly fucked if materials are that easy to get, This is still an issue, but the problem is that its monopolised by whoever can hold a public plantation and lab. as a solo/small group crim you are effectlvely softlocked out of the entire drug cooking/dealing mechanic. the only edge case would be cooking out of an RV, but if youre being halfway honest with your placement/clipping you can only really fit about 3 tables into one of those which is deliberately not worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Stones Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 16 hours ago, Quietthecutie said: This is not the direction the server is going. the devs dont want people to be able to generate money passively in their properties. This is still an issue, but the problem is that its monopolised by whoever can hold a public plantation and lab. as a solo/small group crim you are effectlvely softlocked out of the entire drug cooking/dealing mechanic. the only edge case would be cooking out of an RV, but if youre being halfway honest with your placement/clipping you can only really fit about 3 tables into one of those which is deliberately not worth. yeah i feel like public labs is just the " nostalgia" from years ago that they want back but, they forgot about the council back then how it was heavy dominated, and unfair to play, it seems like it is hard to find the right balance, - I liked the thrill of being super secret about my places having tables and being able to be raided if you where not careful. it seems however call of duty in drug labs is better. they try to bring people back together, but the people they bring back together but the question is what kinda people are they bringing back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 I agree that doing something in a private instance or indoors is not the right idea. Often times IRL, criminals will grow illegal marijuana plants in the middle of normal crop fields or out in the wilderness somewhere where it won't be spotted. Just allow the planting of seeds anywhere and implement a planter item that could be used anywhere a private drug table could be placed. This way it is just as balanced as the private tables. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBO Posted March 18 Author Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) On 3/18/2024 at 12:50 PM, Requiem said: I agree that doing something in a private instance or indoors is not the right idea. Often times IRL, criminals will grow illegal marijuana plants in the middle of normal crop fields or out in the wilderness somewhere where it won't be spotted. Just allow the planting of seeds anywhere and implement a planter item that could be used anywhere a private drug table could be placed. This way it is just as balanced as the private tables. i agree i think plantations like that would work then theres still risk but you dont have the bigger gangs basically dominating the drug trade with no way for smaller gangs to ever realistically use it without constantly being robbed. additionally, some people irl are likely to start small plantations in their attic or somewhere more private and dark so i think planter boxes in apartments still make sense Edited March 20 by JRBO i had extra ideas i would like to share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulkyUmbrella60 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 To be fair a lot of criminals in real life have huge indoor plantations that require a lot of work like constant watering, light sources, and fertilizers. If there can maybe be something added where growing privately requires all of those things and a decent amount of care while you are growing I could see this being a real improvement. As of now the server dominance is based on whoever can bring the most people to hide is bushes and catch you off guard at a public lab which is unrealistic in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBO Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 On 4/12/2024 at 1:57 PM, BulkyUmbrella60 said: To be fair a lot of criminals in real life have huge indoor plantations that require a lot of work like constant watering, light sources, and fertilizers. If there can maybe be something added where growing privately requires all of those things and a decent amount of care while you are growing I could see this being a real improvement. As of now the server dominance is based on whoever can bring the most people to hide is bushes and catch you off guard at a public lab which is unrealistic in my opinion. yeah i think its quite unrealistic that the only spots to go to are ones that every other criminal involved in the drug trade know about. this would never happen in real life. these suggestions are quite good and i think aslong as indoor plantations are made to be more high maintenance than public ones, there shouldnt be much of an issue with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietthecutie Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 From a realism perspective, youre right. But it still wont happen. The entire reason private labs were nuked was because it takes people into a private instance, where no one can interact with them barring altRP or them messing up their cook. essentially this took players out of the public game and into their own little private server. which made the city feel quieter than it should once you consider maybe a third of criminals would be cooking like this at any given moment. The devs identified this as a dealbreaker for the server and thus removed it. In order for privatelabs to make a return, you would have to make it so that this is no longer an issue. and I can see no way to do that. yes you can make private labs have more steps and be more difficult than public cooking, that was already the case with the watering mechanic, but it still dosent fix the main problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinKlein Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 + but not inside private properties, have certain areas (fields mountains etc) where you can go and have your own plantation operation making it discoverable and potentially raided by other crims or LEOs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonmit1 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 Private chops can be built anywhere on the map. hobo huts can be built anywhere for storage, why not let people place tables and grow anywhere on the map? I think that would be an interesting idea, now there is actual physical territory gangs would have to actually control on the surface if they want to defend a cook, scrap, or grow operation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBO Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 On 4/20/2024 at 1:56 PM, Quietthecutie said: From a realism perspective, youre right. But it still wont happen. The entire reason private labs were nuked was because it takes people into a private instance, where no one can interact with them barring altRP or them messing up their cook. essentially this took players out of the public game and into their own little private server. which made the city feel quieter than it should once you consider maybe a third of criminals would be cooking like this at any given moment. The devs identified this as a dealbreaker for the server and thus removed it. In order for privatelabs to make a return, you would have to make it so that this is no longer an issue. and I can see no way to do that. yes you can make private labs have more steps and be more difficult than public cooking, that was already the case with the watering mechanic, but it still dosent fix the main problem. i think someone may have mentioned earlier on in the thread but what if plantations could be created in spots such as forests or just in the middle of nowhere on the map. this means gangs are still out and about and even solo criminals can be too. they can still set up smart places to hide the plants but they are still in more of a spot where its possible to be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonmit1 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Players should be able to seed and grow weed anywhere on the map (in the dirt on the ground) and have private grow operations. Players should also be able to place and run cooking tables anywhere on the map, removing the ability to place tables in instanced locations like RVs. How would this work? Solo players, small groups, and large gangs would be able to invest in large quantities of weed seeds, and drug tables, and be able to place then down like any other asset in the world. Pros Increased options for small, medium and large amounts of players to work together to have a private grow operation anywhere on the map. Decrease the clapper meta of circulating the three or less active labs every 20 minutes robbing and killing anyone who shows up Promote the idea that individuals have to now actually protect real ground/territory to defend their grow operation and private cooking from others interfering and stealing their product. Pranks can be made, having random weed growing in the front lawn of city hall? Cons Dev work? IDK? It would need to be balanced for privately growing a batch of weed. It would take a long time, but with scale, would be better to do than running public labs picking the naturally growing weed. It would need to be limited to only obviously dirt/ground that makes sense, so theres no growing weed in the streets or inside or on top of buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Berg Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 I like the idea of being able to place planters on the floor, but I think that it should be limited to properties that you own, so that players have to interact with each other to buy secluded properties to fund their grow operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonmit1 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Benjamin Berg said: I like the idea of being able to place planters on the floor, but I think that it should be limited to properties that you own, so that players have to interact with each other to buy secluded properties to fund their grow operations. Private cook operations were removed from properties specifically because people would just sit in their property cooking, not being out in the world. Being able to grow within a property would break that too. Which is why it should be only allowed out in the world, like private chops can be placed anywhere, so your have to hide it, or defend it from people out looking for them Edited May 29 by Demonmit1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Stones Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 On 4/20/2024 at 2:56 PM, Quietthecutie said: From a realism perspective, youre right. But it still wont happen. The entire reason private labs were nuked was because it takes people into a private instance, where no one can interact with them barring altRP or them messing up their cook. essentially this took players out of the public game and into their own little private server. which made the city feel quieter than it should once you consider maybe a third of criminals would be cooking like this at any given moment. The devs identified this as a dealbreaker for the server and thus removed it. In order for privatelabs to make a return, you would have to make it so that this is no longer an issue. and I can see no way to do that. yes you can make private labs have more steps and be more difficult than public cooking, that was already the case with the watering mechanic, but it still dosent fix the main problem. I feel like the server has gotten more quiet actualy after private labs where removed. Now there is no more drops etc no more interaction between crims, i see however an increase of civilians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Berg Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 22 hours ago, Demonmit1 said: Private cook operations were removed from properties I was getting at cooking outside, but still within your properties boundaries. My suggestion was that it would be the same with these planter boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inorigj Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 6 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said: I feel like the server has gotten more quiet actualy after private labs where removed. Now there is no more drops etc no more interaction between crims, i see however an increase of civilians The reason you're seeing an increase of civilians. Is because people are getting tired of Crim RP being watered down to "hold lab, hunt down other gang's and shootouts" There is no RP anymore. its Deathmatching with extra steps, something that gets very boring real quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnakinB Posted Tuesday at 08:07 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:07 AM i thought they outlawed that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Stones Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago On 5/30/2024 at 6:23 PM, inorigj said: The reason you're seeing an increase of civilians. Is because people are getting tired of Crim RP being watered down to "hold lab, hunt down other gang's and shootouts" There is no RP anymore. its Deathmatching with extra steps, something that gets very boring real quick "deathmatching with extra steps" well sayd actualy, imma keep that one, because its actually accurate haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietthecutie Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ritchie Stones said: "deathmatching with extra steps" well sayd actualy, imma keep that one, because its actually accurate haha agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...