AtlasOLimbo

+1 This could be off-topic/derailing the conversation but I think it should be said and has been talked about quite a bit here. People seem way too comfortable using all kinds of grotesque language towards one another, especially intending to shock and offend the player on the other side. I believe the administration team has to take a more pro-active approach to these clear perverted, bigoted and intentionally offensive statements. People can cry "snowflake" as much as they'd like. Like said, a lot of the shit said on this server would get you put to the ground in a moment's notice. Just because you're behind a screen doesn't mean you get to say this shit. Given I've been in nearly every legal faction there is, in nearly every one of them I've witnessed a female player and or female character being harassed for even that. And if their voice doesn't "match" their gender? Woo-wee. We should strive to do better.

-1 For all the reasons listed above. We don't need more things that encourage/lubricate the already cancerous PvP mentality.

A major issue with Water RP is the sync. It's gotten better, but it's still far from perfect. Diving opportunities would be a lot of fun. Maybe more events involving submarines? This is a really far out there idea, but yachts? Spawn in a few more and make them purchasable maybe? Like a sea-borne property for the megarich?

This argument isn't great. Lewis used to be extremely hands off and the amount of attention/hate directed towards him was much much less than what it is now. The upset nature of the people is quite literally a result of his own actions.

Like I said, key people in this RP, even people you have mentioned, feel extremely fucked over OOCly. A lot of them do the RP because no one else is willing to take the hit to try and make the server better, and sometimes they still hardly get anywhere. There needs to be SOME kind of recourse or relent for the government, something, anything.

She gave me this specifically to send on her behalf regarding people making assumptions on why she left and UG disbanded. I'm not here on this thread for the petty catfights and drama you seem so interested in partaking in though, I've said my piece and backed it up. I'll be moving on now. I've also brought up the counter-argument to most of these points previously, and I really don't feel like repeating myself.

For context, from the UG leader.

My view of the underground is the same as the person who led it for years?

Ahah. Nearly any event/altRP we tried to co-ordinate with FM either got ignored or given a flat out no. That's what caused the OG leader to leave. We tried, and tried, and tried. And got nowhere. We had our fun.

And my argument is that it should be. A dictatorship is not fun, besides for the people at the top, like I said previously.

They've been left with one vehicle, but the vehicles have been RPly shipped off to Gitmo or something similar, and they likely have no shot at getting them back anytime soon.

This is a bad take. I love you and the RP you provide on your characters, but this is an OOC issue in my opinion as it has directly impacted both people's enjoyment of the server and lack thereof. This is the only place where opinions on the matter might be taken seriously.

I have to disagree. Lewis' approach to issues has drastically changed since I first started playing. I know that key individuals in this roleplay are extremely unhappy with how they're being treated, both from an OOC and IC perspective. I'm not going to name names because that is not fair. If they'd like to speak here, I very much encourage them to. Lewis should be extremely aware of the delicate nature of the position he's holding, and not be allowed to run what is essentially a secret police without sizable retaliation. Shadows kills him, and quite literally nothing happens. The "board of governors" cracks down on them three times as hard, and the government doesn't change their ways. Weazel employees have not made accusations, they have made clear statements of fact. I have seen the footage of the DOC situation, and it's kind of cringe to be threatening people with IC administrative action because they won't let you abuse/harrass somebody else IC. You of all people should see where I'm coming from on this.

Lewis is being reckless and irresponsible, both OOC and IC in my opinion and I believe the opinion of many others. If he does not permit a democracy to be formed OOC/IC, how will it? If he is your friend like you talk about, I hope you can convince him to some degree to give the server some breathing room rather than treating it like a sandbox for him to play in.

Currently watching this. There is no way to replace Lewis & co. as mentioned at 1:43 due to the very nature of how the governor position is setup, as mentioned by Calvin.

This. This. This. The response is always to everything, "don't rely on script". But, in every avenue of roleplay I've pursued it's felt like I've got kneecapped at every corner. Y'all remember Underground? (Who got made fun of for not wanting to clap 24/7 and just have fun, but I digress.)

I played around COVID times, and that is exactly how I liked it. Government was extremely hands off, was used for licensing, occasionally modifying things like parking and penal code. Lewis would have his little bit of fun every so often and it was good. As was just mentioned, people are extremely intimidated both OOC and IC to do ANYTHING in retaliation due to the administrative position(s) of these officials, and seem bound to get removed from their years of work for a position if they even breathe in the government's direction. @Pazz @Chunder

Even dictatorships suffer heavy resistance, internal sabotage (which has happened to some degree), protests, etc. But this roleplay actively gets crushed/disallowed both on an IC and OOC level. The server running as a dictatorship quite literally is not fun for anyone except the dictator(s) for obvious reasons. Any first world, especially American-affiliate acting to such a degree of blatant disregard for everything, using military in domestic events, etc, would have every federal and global authority stepping in and possible external armed intervention and or tariffs/embargos up the ass.

How have the founders allowed the roleplay with SAGOV to reach the blatant overreach and corruption that it exists at currently? I don't see how this is fun for anyone involved BESIDES SAGOV. Weazel, a faction that has literally kept the civilian roleplay alive with dedicated individuals quite literally got punished for doing their job by having every vehicle in their F4 removed except one. And if the counter argument for this is "deal with it IC", how? There's no method of impeachment for the governor(s), we have no elected officials apart from the LRC, that still cannot touch the board of governors if the governors do not want them to. The Judicial Branch got threatened merely for exercising their rights. Individuals are given weird custom ranks and high command roles based purely on nepotism. Any other faction doing what GOV is doing at the moment would be crushed into a fine powder by GOV. I'm either asking for an avenue be provided to counteract GOV, or that GOV simply reel it in/be brought back to the administrative, hands off approach it was a year ago.

As someone who's roleplayed both on LEO and crim on and off for years, please no. The imbalance exists for a reason. This also only creates a further imbalance among crims.

Date and time (provide timezone): N/A Character name: N/A Issue/bug you are reporting: RP Focus is missing a ton of categories. Expected behavior: RP Focus should include: Vending machine info(?) Departmental radio Radio responses Dispatch Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: Vehicle license plate number*: N/A

Cooking inside didn't produce any RP. All it produced was people watching Netflix while making obscenes amount of money. (Contributing to server inflation)

Faction thread is broken already

-1 Due to all of the reasons listed above. Until Eclipse can get ourselves out of the clapper, asset focused mindset I don't think anyone can be trusted with higher numbers.