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What came first the meat or the bread?.... asking for a friend!

Francesca Romano 1 entry

Speaking of baby momma's... The child support is late!!!!

Frankly, one shouldn't presume a language barrier. Role Play is what you make of it as they say and isn't boring to everyone just because you say so. You worked at LSC for a short time which then you would have to join said Roadside division should you have chosen to do so to focus primarily on roadside repairs where there was an option to go out on roadside looking for repairs etc or taking the mechanic requests providing there were enough mechanics still in the shop allowing those to partake in all sorts of RP which can ever so literally lead to all types of "organic" interactions and socializing along the way. If you choose to just sit in the shop and do repetitive monotonous RP, join HR, or PR that was your choice to do so. Whereas, Bayview all that become part of that faction are trained for roadside mechanic requests and can do them. Otherwise, the faction members also have the option of being involved in every division should they choose to apply to do so. The two factions are not at all ran the same from the top down. I've had the opportunity to be part of both factions and there are considerable differences in the two in very many ways beyond the ignorance that the only organic RP can be had from doing roadside interactions. Not everyone chooses mechanic RP to sit with a speaker and hang out with their pals in or outside a shop motivated solely for easy $$$. There have been a few posts about what people think about the mechanics or lack thereof, when most people choose it just for a paycheck starting out. Some like myself enjoyed role playing fixing cars and occasionally being a mildly menacing mechanic along with some customers as well as fellow mechanics and also enjoyed providing something that was beneficial to the server as a whole like ever so literally being a member of the community that would answer all kinds of questions far beyond any mechanic duties. There have been many people that my thinking outside the box saved them from the side of chiliad, not just their cars. Some actually spend some thought on their particular character arc's beyond having a chill time with the homies. I could have just as soon had my own welcome to the city office which I ever so literally joked ICly with Lewis about. I personally enjoyed interacting with new members of the community answering all of their questions about how to navigate gov website and where to find things and do stuff often not including their interest in becoming mechanics in between repairs, without having to join a faction doing some RP job sitting in a box doing "paperwork", which I already had plenty of experience with and very little actual RP thus chose not to do that anymore. If you personally need examples, I was a customer once with Liam and he RPly found a slice of pizza under the hood my ass picked it up and took a bite and he was looking up a repair in a manual while I RPly did the repair. It was enjoyable RP for us that doesn't mean it will be enjoyable for everyone. It's all what you make of it if you aren't motivated by money and genuinely want to role play. I've also menacingly dropped wrenches in peoples engines and oops left them there. For someone that chose to be a mechanic for a relatively short period of time, likely for an easy paycheck in their minds, I would presume they never really wanted to do mechanic RP in the first place and simply looked at it as an easy payday for the short term goals whereas I solely created a character who I ever so literally developed the arc to be a mechanic and had no desire to join other factions on that character despite attempts by others for me to join other legal factions. What you personally consider fun or enjoyable may be something completely different than what is enjoyable to the next person. I completely disagree that there is no opportunity for any organic varied RP, especially at Bayview where I was a faction member for 17 months. Nor was there no opportunity for organic RP at MPT when it was a thing and didn't even have access to towing. I pushed many cars across the city to MPT to repair them for people when no one was taking mechanic requests. Just because that wouldn't be funny or enjoyable to you, it was to those that witnessed such shenanigans like that of watching someone push the commander of SD's Kamacho down a street for a repair and end up with a whole crowd RPing together along the way. There will never be any two "point of views" that are exactly the same. Mechanic RP simply was not boring at all to me. I had tons of enjoyable interactions both mechanic RP wise and hundreds of various interactions because of choosing that RP. Me stating that very few care that you enjoy doing that RP and even less notice that you enjoy doing it is because they don't. In the event someone does notice you thoroughly enjoy that RP, well that still doesn't matter when you are merely a small fish in the big pond and not trying to be a contestant in some popularity contest. When I quit mechanic RP it certainly wasn't because I was bored with the RP. I had many reasons both IC and OOC for doing so. In saying that, None of which were because I was bored with mechanic RP. I've had many friends come and go for similar reasons. My personal opinion is that saying it being a beginner job is it's only saving grace is only true because the faction leaders and management of those factions choose to not recognize which individuals aren't looking at those jobs like stepping stones to their other goals whether it be criminal in nature RP or simply to gain experience in order to join other legal factions that require a bit more experience in the server. Being uncertain that you were around at a time when we had a packed Pier every single day all hours the place was busy. When they "killed the pier" so to speak, the mechanic shops ever so literally became the new social hubs, way back then, aside from the people that found other more enjoyable places to go fishing or hang out and chill with their friends and acquaintances. Every change that has been made many of us have adjusted in some fashion experienced the growing pains such as the current situation with LSC and with mechanics in general many of us have seen before and will likely see again. and I fully agree with this. However, I don't really agree they need a pay increase near as much as you need a leader and people that genuinely enjoy that sort of RP, unmotivated by personal gain and are looking to do that long term in the community, to take on that responsibility. @Bala Always has pretty good insight on a great deal of topics and his suggestions he has given would certainly help for those that find the RP boring as is. However, to me personally when people suggest that money talks, what I envision is, would be a job attracting more people that do not even enjoy mechanic RP at all just for that paycheck. If that's the case hell they can make close to 20k an hour driving a garbage truck if they become efficient at it. At the end of the day, if you choose someone to lead a faction that doesn't really thoroughly enjoy that sort of RP to begin with, without the need for all sorts of additional bells and whistles that would prefer to be focusing their characters and time elsewhere, we will just end up repeating what has already been done many times before, just different actors same roles.

The mechanic job and RP is not boring for everyone. There are some that have genuinely enjoyed mechanic RP and that weren't so concerned about the pay. I personally enjoyed it and at one point was a member of both Bayview and MPT simultaneously simply because I enjoy the different aspects of what is possible. To be perfectly honest, very few care that you enjoy doing that RP and even less notice that you enjoy doing it. If you are an individual that enjoys that RP and works their way up in rank ICly for actually putting in the work there is very little reward(not talking $$) for someone that doesn't make other events, characters or other IC jobs their priority.

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Great Ideas Huge +1

+1 #helpthedeaf

But did Governor Langley's frat boy bestie Cyrus Carver LSPD(while on duty) ask you if the carpet matches the drapes while on duty? Asking for a friend?

+1 With the huge influx of adding new cameras all over the city...at all the apartments and key points of interest on particular streets and bridges strategically being placed in the past few months and likely more to come. After over 2 years, I think this suggestion is definitely unique and more relevant than ever before. For both civilians and criminals alike, I believe the RP possibilities to be endless. Law enforcement already having access to utilizing the laptops to gain CCTV footage mean that it would be highly possible to incorporate something similar for the rest of the population as laptops have been around for quite sometime. Whether it be just a normal civilian looking after their own properties, plain old curiosity, an amateur with a computer hacking mindset that has been flying under the radar with more sinister plans in mind to cause interference with government entities or other citizens whom have gotten on their bad side or the obvious known criminals gathering intel on opposing gangs or Law Enforcement Officers or planning larger long planned out schemes and heists. Just as the original poster mentions encrypted puzzles, perhaps, to gain access to CCTV via the laptops or the ability to cause interference with the cctv system at a chosen camera location for a brief period of time or maybe the ability to cut power on certain locations or areas of the city for a brief period. I feel, as they are already operable to law enforcement, this to be something that should be able to be accessed for more than just placing orders or things of that nature or just be a piece of furniture for the average citizen. Any input on this I believe to be a benefit to us all and creating a great deal of RP we are missing out on. Thanks for your time!

I agree this would definitely be a QOL improvement for everyone!

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I guess I will just add my two cents here since most of my time on the server now pretty much solely is just this. Mechanic RP is all what you are allowed to make of it. Over a year now(16 months), I have been doing mechanic RP as a Bayview mechanic. Also, worked simultaneously at MPT with another character and clearly it was not about making money there, as it was all about the RP and interactions. Some people don't find mechanic RP boring and choose to do that. The ones that do find it boring, without thinking everyday there needs to be a dj and a club party, are really in my own personal opinion those that often apply to those RP jobs because well they simply look at it as easy money or just an experience stepping stone gaining some RP experience to their next goal to RP in another department or can't do other jobs because of their past criminal records which has been changing lately due to the reform type opportunities at DOC, so of course it will not be that thrilling. Ever tried to be a menacing mechanic and patch up an SD Cruisers' bullet holes with bubblegum? then you just haven't been living. Got that one customer who is a royal pain in your backside? "accidentally" drop a wrench in their motor and "oops! can't find it" It is RP after all and why not find ways of making some entertainment while you are at it. Shout out to Liam Binnie who menacingly removed some parts, then RP’d looking up in a repair manual how to repair a vehicle, while I got out and RP’d performing repairs after he sent the invoice. Or the guy that said I would find a slice of pizza under the hood, to which I picked it up and took a bite. Some people also actually pay attention to the RP you are doing, and find fun ways to create that entertainment back and forth with you. I think sitting at speed traps for a few hours straight is boring then get in that one 20 minute pursuit that everyone joins in JTAC then there are no officers because everyone is chasing that same person then repeat. I go on tons of ride a longs and sometimes it is pretty repetitive other times a few select people take their RP up many notches (adding more than pull over, remove the mask and lemme see that license, hands them a ticket, or chase the evader) to make it enjoyable. Not everyone wants to RP a gov paper pushing job either. Simply put, there are so many different people with varying ideas of how to make something entertaining and using a little creativity for it not to be the same old repetitive interaction regardless of the job without being forced to do so. I find that it also would help individuals express themselves and their character arcs, how they choose to RP their individuality in customer service and how they RP the jobs vs. feeling like they could just as soon be replaced with robots or automated services.

Well, sure is a good thing those departments drive vehicles all day and night that don't receive speed camera tickets even when there isn't an emergency...So we all know you can afford them donuts with all that money you saved not getting tickets. And, you can always drive the garbage truck for about $16k an hour if you need a part time side gig that pays more so you can stock up! I would be inclined to say I would have to fully agree with Cyrus Raven on this one that the taxes perhaps should be reevaluated and the determining of the wealth calculations. It really doesn't take long at all to get into the top tax bracket. A couple of crappy cars, maybe a 3G house, and the next paycheck you are up there.

+1 Buggs I agree Now for me I personally have only ever just visited DOC. However, even for things that are somewhat related aside from prison times such as a license being suspended for 1 day, that to my knowledge is an actual OOC day or 24 hours not 1 minute like prison times. I have never had my own license suspended but find people ask me a whole lot of questions IC about similar things and why that is 1 day OOC but DOC is this way? And all I can do is respond OOCly with referring them to the prison times information and a brief statement about me not being the one that makes these decisions I am just a player just like them and that would be a good question for the forums etc. So, I find from a different perspective of sorts there are times in which the balance between this being a game and trying to be realistic this would be one in which a compromise would actually make the role play go a bit smoother.