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  1. Jacob Torrero here. Do you have any evidence of this incident? I dont, as we were not told that there was any concerns from the other party even tho he has an alt in my faction and could've easily done so. -As Vince said in his reply, we had other plans for the night but it didnt work so we planned on hitting stores instead, had a shootout with a rival gang and then started the robberies. Please explain your side of the story for the incident at the Vespucci Store. If I remember correctly, the car I was in (Jake Le, Sully Adams, Ray Wrzosek and me) arrived late when shots were fired already and we were just back up to finish the job. Please explain your side of the story for the incident at the Grove Store. Continuing our robberies, we went to grove store and began the job. 2 minutes in, a call was made that Helsinki was getting chased and to start setting up an ambush and so we did and a shootout occured. Please explain your side of the story for the incident at Paleto Bay. After a while, we decided to go try a bank robbery and mid-way through it, an Azteca kamacho started getting chased, where a call was made to drag them away from the city for the rest of us to finish the bank job easily and the plan was successful. The kamacho ended up stalling infront of Osvaldon's farm, having 4 Aztecas each with a heavy weapon if I remember correctly which ended up with us fighting for their freedom as they didnt have their masks off so there was a good chance they get out without any charges. The first hit was successful, we cleared out the whole situation losing only 1 or 2 allies I believe. Mid-way through clearing out the situation, treating the injured and leaving the area, a 2nd wave from PD initiated on us. We had around 4 injured people, including Azteca's leader, Carlos Rodrigueez. Him being the highest ranking member in council at this moment, we couldnt just leave it after all the hard work we did. We hit PD's 2nd wave, saving all our injured without losing anyone (as far as I know). What is your reasoning for continuing the robbing spree despite meeting heavy police resistance several times upon doing so. What was the ultimate goal of this robbing spree? As explained before, the whole plan for the night was to collect money for the treasury of each of our gangs, that's why the bank robbery plan was made in the first place. When we couldnt do it, we went to do store robberies as it was the only way possible for us as a group to make money, and then went back to do the bank robbery. Money was easily collected and the risk wasnt that hard in the first 2 incidents but the 3rd one was indeed hard but it was too late to just give up on our allies getting arrested when we had the chance of saving them. I would also like to point out that none of us felt that this was "heavy police resistance", mostly because of how they were spread out, unorganized and just being hero cops. First and second situations could've been handled better by PD if they actually took the time to assess the situation specially after seeing multiple vehicles parked around the store at the first incident, and how they initiated the situation in the second incident. I hope that this comment would not be taken as an offence to anyone in particular but more of an advice. Would also like to point out Abel's reaction to dying on the mountain, surrounded by 3 criminals, screaming "Fuck! My free gun!", which isnt good RP imo.
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    ID 169 [DM]

    So why would you shoot me when I didnt give you any instructions to stop or pull over? Just pointing your gun would've been enough as warning, you didnt have to shoot me multiple times for no reason. You could've shot any where that isnt close to me but you chose to.
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    ID 169 [DM]

    Player(s) being reported: ID 169 Date of interaction reported: 31/7/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1596198909 Your characters name: Jacob Torrero Other player(s) involved: None Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper IC motive and interaction. Prior interaction should include escalation such as a robbery or a report to the police. Players may not kill victims who have complied with a plausible demand in reasonable time unless involved in severe hostile activity against them or an ally within 3 hours. Players on foot should only be attempted to be hit with a vehicle once with valid motive. Vehicles cannot be used as weapons in active shootouts unless where unavoidable. Players must be able to explain their reason and provide proof of prior reasoning if requested. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand. How did the player break the rule(s)? So I saw this guy inside north lab where I called it out and waited for my allies to be close to which the guy started escaping that led to a chase. Chased him all the way from north lab to where this incident happened when he just got out of his car and shot me and then dipped. 3mins later I PMed him asking why he shot me, he said it was "a warning shot" where he actually shot 2/3 times, hitting me once and hitting my bike once aswell. Evidence of rule breach: https://streamable.com/qw4msr
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    The Northside Saints

    Looks promising, good luck!
  5. So you shot us because you didnt get time to give demands? As you can clearly see in my POV, me choosing my gun in the tab never actually worked and never pulled my gun out before you started shooting me. Please post your friend's POV. Wont be responding any further.
  6. If we shot people because their intention is to rob us, labs will be KOS. I never posed a threat to you or any of your friends, I also never pulled a gun out or tried to before you started shooting me. I also never heard your "touch radio and you're dead" because you started moving back and you can see that in my POV, all I heard was "what the fuck is your problem" and you instantly shot me down when you could've just robbed me by easily putting me under fearrp instead of just shooting. I only said I will be reporting you once, right after you killed me. All my PMs afterwards was to try and see if you wanted to solve it but you didnt seem to care enough and only wanted the loot. Also yeah, I would like to see your friend's POV when the shootout started, it should be enough to show me there was no metagaming in this scenario.
  7. Player(s) being reported: ID 40 Date of interaction reported: 24/07/2020 Unix time stamp from HUD: 1595597998 Your characters name: Jacob Torrero Other player(s) involved: Carter Le Specific rule(s) broken: 14. Deathmatch (DM) Deathmatching is the act of attacking a player without a proper roleplay reason and interaction. Examples of valid reasons to attack another player: • If they attempt to arrest or hurt you, an ally, or damage your property. • If they report you to the police for a serious crime. • If they are not in compliance with plausible demands, attempt to escape, or call backup. A player cannot kill their victim if the victim is in compliance with the demands. A player must allow their victim enough time to comply with the demands. If a player informs you that your VOIP isn’t working, you must either fix your VOIP using appropriate commands or use text to deliver your demand(s). Vehicles cannot be used to attack a player on foot more than once, including a failed attempt. Vehicles cannot be used as a weapon in an active shootout unless it's unavoidable when fleeing an active shootout. Killing a player that has obeyed all orders and demands during a roleplay situation is allowed, with roleplay, only within 3 hours of: Severe hostile or criminal action is taken against you, e.g. someone is robbing you at gunpoint. (Excluding police aiming a gun at you.) Someone is attempting to take your life. Someone is attempting to take the life of your close friend or ally, or if you have witnessed it happen. You must explain your reason to kill to the player IC and have OOC evidence proving your reason. 15. Player Theft, Prison Breakout, and Kidnapping Robberies should be conducted in a realistic manner with reasonable in-character motive using secluded areas. Players should not conduct minor robberies in situations with high risk involved. Desert and forest areas are considered secluded but witnesses should still be taken into account. Players cannot force their victims to withdraw money from an ATM, sell property, or sell vehicles. Players cannot force their victims to hand over assets that are not present in the area. Players cannot steal from players with “NEW PLAYER” above their head unless it is in retaliation. Players with the (( NEW PLAYER )) tag that deliberately insert themselves into or start active crime scenes lose their new player protection during those illegal activities. Players may not steal from their faction treasury as the F4 menu is OOC. Permission for prison break must be approved by a Moderator+ prior to the attempt. Players may participate in no more than 1 prison break attempt within 1 OOC week. Official Factions may attempt 2 additional breaks in the case the prisoner is the faction leader. 15. Player Theft, Prison Breakout, and Kidnapping (Continued) Players are allowed to kidnap or to take other players hostage for these specific reasons: • You have to have a roleplay reason to kill the victim in accordance with the DM rules. • If you attempt to commit robbery of a property, you are allowed to hold the players within that property until you have finished the robbery. An NPC is not a valid hostage. • If a hostage situation involves police in any way all players involved in holding the hostage may not take another hostage for 1 OOC week. Players can give consent to other players to be kidnapped outside of the stipulations above if the roleplay makes sense, but they should in such cases avoid involving law enforcement in any way due to the consented roleplay. 8. Metagaming (MG) Metagaming is the act of relaying IC information through any method not considered IC that has the potential to change current or future roleplay scenarios or using that information. Mixing IC and OOC information without any benefit is a minor MG offense. For example, a player uses IC chat to call someone by their player ID displayed above their head. Players may not have any interaction or knowledge from their alternate characters. How did the player break the rule(s)? An ally of mine saw ID 40 picking plants and leaving a drug lab so we decided to chase him while giving call outs every now and then, assess the situation and see whats up. ID 40 pulled up a store to which we didnt want to initiate due to the new rules, but apparently ID 40 didnt mind initiating a robbery infront of a store and a gas station in the middle of the day. He also didnt give any demands nor given anyone any time before he started shooting, he just pulled his gun out saying "what the fuck is the problem" and started blasting as soon as I got off my bike, without even any gun animation on me. I know I wasnt close to ID 40 the whole time but in the times I was close to him I never saw him radio so I dont know how he told his allies to set up an ambush. It can also be seen that one of his allies was shooting the other one thinking he's an enemy but then stopped without the one getting shot at using any radio to tell his ally that it is him and not an enemy. So I'm suspecting metagaming. The reported party was told multiple times to save POV. I also tried resolving it multiple times with him to which he replied "I'll argue on forums I dont have time for this". Evidence of rule breach: My POV: https://streamable.com/vy30zl Carter's POV: https://streamable.com/7qks4o
  8. As if you didnt tank enough already. It takes hella bullets to kill one of you with a .50, now you want us to use sns pistols, great mentality bro. You guys just need to know that its okay to take the L sometimes, its not like you lose ANYTHING anyways. Quite a hard experience I know And yeah, we want to wear a moo moo and not be arrested because 1% of the gun is showing. Why does it matter to you what we wear?
  9. Being a criminal is not a job we go on/off duty for, there's no such thing as (use weaker pistols when in public) or (keep it in your vehicles) as ambushes can happen at any time and back up calls can not be denied because "wait lemme swap my weak pistol for a .50 and then I'll come".
  10. As shown in the video above, it all depends on what you're wearing. But even if we RPly hid it, if they see it, they see it.
  11. Well, if you think it's bug abuse to try and hide it with clothing, you know where to post that. But it doesnt make any sense for you to arrest me when only 1~10 percent of the gun is showing. What made you sure its a gun in the first place except for the fact there's scriptly nothing else to put back there? Could easily argue that's metagaming, but lets not go through this discussion. I'm sorry you might have to give up on some Ws
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