Percival

-1 to limiting roleplay, whats the point of having a large playerbase when you can only do crim stuff with a max of 5 ppl?? For all i care crims can have a whole army. Wont look good but dam its their group and roleplay.

We have the taco job now yes, but what if instead of making it a job, we rely on the player in buying and selling the items?? Allow players to purchase any food stand from the Taco Restaurant. players will be able to deploy a food stand at any area where no other objects would obstruct it. Players will then be able to interact with other players and do /sellfood [player id] [food type] [price] - if the player has the item inside their inventory then they will be able to sell it. - if not they wont be able to sell it. items: - Water - Soda - Hotdog, Sandwich, Subway, Taco, etc. this will bring new life to the populated areas of the server and give players another way to do business. 24/7 owners can do wholesales with these players and offer discounts and etc.

+1 if possible

water Treatment Job at the Department of Water Players will have to get the job at the DEPT Of Water building in Vinewood, LS From there they can choose to go to any of the available water treatment locations with a Spawned water Treatment Truck and do inspections. inspections: - player will inspect the individual machines at the facilities, take out a clip board, and wait for a few seconds before they move onto the next machine to be inspected. this is the same concept as the logging job.

Construction Job Sites can be available at each construction site, from commercial buildings, to houses still being built. The diverse locations will make it more fun for all More woahs

Have all houses with a lawn’s grass grow. Homeowners will have a side task/chore to maintain their lawns by using a lawn mower and leaf blower. homeowners can hire other players to mow their lawns for a price, and players could potentially make businesses out of this. Hardware Store - Leaf Blower - Lawn Mower

It does add, unregistered vehicles cant be traced. And yes it can be another method to drain money from the economy. There’s lots of roleplay for this system.

This suggestion died, lets revive?

+1 there's plenty of areas on the map that can serve as a RV car park.

The server/community encourages HEAVY ROLEPLAY... yet we restrict ourselves... from roleplaying so many things... It's honestly... a headache... Character Development if encouraged, but to a certain extent... No one is asking to be Superman, people are just asking to freely roleplay their characters where physically realistically, and should not be hindered by any "gods" from doing so. This ain't Ancient Greece where Zeus f**k's a girl from the pier, the girl from pier gives birth to a semi-god, then zeus is like "ye... you are to only roleplay human only, no powers for you..." Like HELLO.. WHY ZEUS GET TO F**K THE PIER GIRL and everyone else can't?? Others are humans Others misbehave Others are not Zeus Pier girl is special and one of a kind I would love to f**k the pier girl, but I can't. Now my character development is hindered from ever finding love and marrying the pier girl because Zeus f**ked her. Welp.. *shrugs* There goes a happy ever after... Cause I'm human. Hopefully people under this metaphor lol.

Yes, I’ve seen the server with little rules in its beginnings and yes it was a disaster... but that was then with a highly volatile playerbase with 40-80 players at the very most. That was then and this is now. LSPD was very different back then as well as we were still starting, and did not have the resources we do now at our deposable. So why can’t instead of manipulating roleplay oocly, we do so in a realistic and ic means... there are ways... to do so in an IC sense that invites more more roleplay than it creates chaos... I can think of many.... its a challenge I myself also welcome. There’s many ways to oppress or destroy an empire Realistically.. that would be amazinggggg to roleplay and if mentioned here... a lot of players would agree but I won’t do so to preserve secrets. Lol Ngl, that would be some “heavy roleplay” and “character development” shit. And IK LSPD would love to do it... lol back then lspd was barely any members, or lspd population was more than the server’s civilian population lol. Its the fact that I experiences the wild west days of barely any resources that I say right now is the Best time there is if not “the actual” best time we have to do this. Rules back then were created to balance roleplay for many reasons.. part of it was due to low playerbase, so rules were created to supplement some of that rp from ic to ooc.... as we are still doing in some aspect... “refund requests for loan defaults”. I’m taking into account the past, and how it has led to the norms today..... there’s so much potential gta v offers... but ecrp barely... scrapes its surface... if script restrictions ok no problem, but if its the norms of server, I disagree with that excuse as there ARE ways to mitigate and work around.

If server rule was violated I get it, thats not ic at all. But if not... why are we restricting it? Thats the problem.

With all due respect, I completely understand that the rules are created to balance the server. However its pretty much shown how rules created to balance the server may also bring unwanted side-effects as well. it’s good that you enjoy a smaller criminal group, but why can’t someone else enjoy a criminal group with 100 members? If a 100 criminal org exists, they’ll be up a battle with lspd and sd, then it will cause a IC reaction by pd and sd to tackle the ic problems... i.e lspd making divisions etc... lspd increasing swat count etc... lol.. gov opening up enlistments and calling on duty reserves to deploy amidst security events or dangerous gang wars or etc... these rules we seem to tend to a certain player...but if we tend to a certain player who wants things small or wants things to be more ooc restricted, how can we grow as a server???? Fishing is fking boring..... everyone knows that.... its only fun thing is chatting with friends and picking up ladies at the pier... lol we keep saying how much the server misbehaves... I disagree.... for a long time now i’ve noticed how people who made crims then joined lspd act in no way.... immaturely... mind you these are the same people lspd/sd hates icly... same trouble makers icly... but on a different character they’re committed to learning and roleplaying. Ooc they chill people ... who knows how to roleplay.... Another message to management: Don’t give up on the players in ECRP so easily....

If you read the suggestions fully you would see that I brought up the issues and risks involved, i.e vdm and code 0’d and yet again you bring up the same reason others do... and yet again turn towards irl to the server when we all know its not. Obviously air traffic will not allow the same number of a drastic number of planes in the sky at a time. Obviously the faa can train pilots to fly a certain way with radio calls and etc, obviously we wouldnt just let everyone fly a plane and flight school and licensing can become a thing which i presume could be very strict in terms of following ic regulations. that same mindset is like saying, we gotta start driving 50km everywhere because irl in “los angeles” theres heavy traffic so everyone drives very slow... irl we should drive like traffic jams because los angeles has the worst in united states. no disrespect and I thank you for bringing up these counter-reasons as it just goes to show exactly what I and many others are up against. IRL cops are construction workers, uber drivers, politicians, attorneys, yet we can only join two gov factions ??? Seriously.... tbh i hate this mindset. If we do it for one thing we should do it for all, and should not be picking and choosing. Want an immersive gameplay? Find out ways to mitigate ooc problems.. dont just say nah players on ecrp misbehave we cant have nice things... so what... what about the other players who dedicate commitment and time and efforts??? They good they just join a faction and rp good ok ... like what!!!! i completet understand it if ooc problems cannot be mitigate at all... no matter what.... BUT if it can why are we still using the same excuses!?!!? Excuses after excuses after excuses after excuses

Thats a very basic way of thinking, to have it to not to have it? What people don't think of or don't care to think of is how we can control the chaos by implementing it. The FAA can regulate how many flights can bein the skies at one time.

Please explain your decision to "nay" @alexalex303 Why can't "flashlights" be purchasable at the stores by every and all players? Why can't players buy the different firearms other than the ones we have now? i.e. revolver, AP pistol, Ceramic Pistol. Because its not realistic, because revolver acts like a sniper (reduce damage tho?), ceramic pistols are illegal irl (put in arms traffic)? Why can't players buy say a Musket? acts like a sniper.. players will kill each others... (cant they just be punished for DMing, if rule was broken, why not have?) Why must a player in a cop faction have to portray the expected "police officer" demeanor? Why can't players freely buy planes and helicopters? They will use it to kill people Ban for VDM (?) They will crash the planes into buildings. Ban for VDM (?) Their games may crash mid-flight. Script it so, if pilot crashes, plane is automatically teleported to the Los Santos International Airport Hangars with the passengers still inside. This solution will prevent planes raining onto the streets This solution will prevent people dying or explosions on the streets. This solution will give players more to do on the server This solution will allow the establishment for a division in government Federal Aviation Administration Trains and licenses pilots Manages and enforces flight regulations Secures travel for all flights. Fun fact: Aircrafts are better synced in-game. Players in aircrafts in the sky, can see every detail and motion and person/vehicle on the ground in real-time. BUT...… NO.... WE CAN'T HAVE IT..... We as a community need to stop telling ourselves, we can't do it, we can't do it. and START asking the question... WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THIS A POSSIBILITY? HOW CAN WE MITIGATE PROBLEMS AND RISKS FROM OCCURING?

+1 My main character works in LSPD and in City Hall. He would love to work as a mechanic or drive a taxi as well, but he can't.. because the gods forbit it.... Why can't my character develop into a taxi cab driver as a side job while working as a cop and in city hall? In real life, people who works in government may also have various roles (more than 3 jobs). if their primary employer permits it.... I don't see this as getting out of control as the faction 5 hour requirement can always be enforced like it is currently...

I see your point, but I have to respectfully disagree. We should not lower the gang cap or department cap. Everything needs to be dealt with IC and through IC ramifications... I.e LSPD won't hire more people if they can't afford. Gangs should be able to have as many people as they choose if they want to build an empire if they can handle it. Lets stop with the OOC limitations onto roleplay, and just let whatever happen, happen... Only then will we truly have an immersive... full out VIRTUAL WORLD of LIFE. If we disable the Nametags to use ALT HOLD, we mind as well remove some OOC limitations on roleplay.... if not..... what was the actual point of making the ALT HOLD on Nametags???????? I understand its to make a "perception" of realism... but if its possible... to make things on the server more realistic... why limit the roleplay???? Why say, 1 gang can't take control of 6 criminal organizations? Why say, a gang needs to be official to arms traffic? Why say, we can't have planes when it can be made possible. No faction cap per OOC means If they can afford it IC, let them. Want to lower gang's membership, LEO's should attack their finances, take their money, and assets, make them smaller..... LSPD Wants more funding for more officers? Gov raise taxes... sell things, etc... make money in general ... Gang wants to build empire??? Take control of different revenue streams.... Everything I've mentioned is 100% possible to do on the server with this player base and the resources currently in this community. CAMPAIGN: STOP LIMITING ROLEPLAY

To be honest, in my opinion when it comes to criminal organizations, just let any players create their own groups..... freeroam of group creation or don't whatever it may be. If a triad has control over a hispanic drug cartel, let them.... If one criminal group wants to organize 10 criminal groups, let them. I never liked this "It's not realistic" mentally when it relates to theoretical matters. Whose not to say an Asian cartel does not have control over a Hispanic organization or vice versa. Whose to say, we can't have 20 large syndicate organizations, why only 5? or 10? Why do we need to have street gangs? Why not let every player create their own type of organization with free rein, its life and its realistic. If gangs want to mexican cartel the street of Los Santos, who's to say it's not realistic. And I disagree, parts of the United States is like parts of Mexico or other horrific places in other parts of the world. Chicago, Seattle, Baltimore, etc. Lets stop limiting the way players on this server can roleplay and stop whining about "its not realistic to arrest him" or "its not realistic to rob a cop". Let chaos roam free, and you shall see activity bloom. If criminals want to RP underground and lowkey, cool. If criminals want to outright slaughter people during the day, drive bys, raids on areas, etc, ok cool.... This isn't a PD v Criminal comment mentality, but more so for us as a community to stop limiting roleplay and calling essentially everything and anything "unrealistic". I get there's balance to be made, but sometimes the goal for a balance just goes too far....to the point it makes no sense... Bottom-line again.. as I have said and will keep saying.. If server rules are followed, no meta-gaming, no power-gaming, not VDM or DM, or what have you. Then players should roleplay what they want as long as it's "PHYSICALLY REALISTIC". Suggestion: Freedom of group creation Script will require player to have 3000XP before invitation. If invited under 3k XP, script will prohibit it. Create a Server Rule prohibiting the abuse of character creation for mass recruitment. (This would make sense...) Any groups with a certain amount of members (20+) have ability to.. Arms Traffic/Smuggle Drug Traffic/Smuggle etc. Any criminal scripted perks, let them have it. Instead of putting a limit on "realism", put a limit on their member count. Under 15 members, can't do anything, but create/join a group. 15+ members can take over turfs. 30+ members can drug traffic. 40+ members can arms traffic. Turfs Put a timer on when a turf can be taken Only 3 turfs on the map (small/large) will be able to be fought for say every...72 hours...from the time of capture. There needs to be an IC/RP reason for the gang to be attacking the other group or capturing their turf, not just because they want more land. IC Beef, etc. Ex: cheating girls, punched a homie in the face, talking smack... , etc. This will prevent the server from becoming an ongoing DM server. Benefits of having a turf Groups created will be disbanded within 14 days of creation, if they do not have a turf. If group has no turf, their disbandment timer will start for the 14 days... No turf in 14 days = Group is deleted, and all members removed. This chaos will give more activity into the server for everyone, not just those who are within "official" criminal groups... This will give PD, SD, DOC, JUDICIAL, a HUGE run lol. This chaos will also give a reason to have a "National Guard", and I don't mean an "admin" faction, I mean full out roleplay enlistment, military training and drills for anyone on the server to join and partake in.....

I do agree with that sentiment as well and have seen it happen many times, but when a problem presents itself, it should be attended to and spoken about by ECRP Management onto the rest of the server rather put aside, turned down, or instill repercussions onto others. There are many suggestions that provide practical and concrete solutions, and I can only hope that they are being focused on. I’ve seen what happens to, - if its not broken, don’t fix it. yes server is very active and player-base is doing fine. But many others in factions may not know realize but doing activities like fishing at the pier and talking to mates is VERY BORING.......... That right there needs to be tended to... as soon as possible before people see no changes and leave. I wish I can say it... but can’t and shouldn’t.... there are concrete plans in place to give people more to do.

A cup is harder to fix when its in pieces than when its chipped. Despite the 300-400 players at peak, it’s never too early to tackle the issues when presented, than wait for a disaster to hit and than respond afterwards. ECRP has the resources to make changes (i.e Playerbase), and such resources should be use before it is lost and is too late. - I speak of this out of past experience. Those who have the same experience know exactly... what I mean. The difference in citing issues on the community, is that solutions are also presented, solutions that have the potential to be concrete, practical. The Court System is a solution to the community long overdue. Do not judge a person on his foolish actions alone, but judge him for his ambition, character, and commitment. I take no offense at any of it, but personally if you’re referring to my creditibility I do troll....yes, a jokester of sorts... a jack of all things good and bad....Focus on the good, not the bad. Just because one is a class clown, does not disregard their character as a whole.

This was worth commenting for as it boils down to practical and concrete contributions to the server or the attempt. The suggestions forum section is a great way to provide solutions to our problems and its where I see the forum flourishing the most. Players collectively contribute towards ideas to make the server more fun, practical, and fair. I’m not a staff member on ecrp, and never was, but as someone who has strongly advocated for “specific” change and additions into the server both OOC and IC, end of day it needs to fit the norm of the server and community. I understand server is going towards a heavy roleplay stance, but at the same time should not be restricting roleplay or stopping roadblocks where there’s roleplay potentials. The mindset right now is, where others have solutions, there will always be those who turn down the solutions either refusing to make a difference. Want things to stay the same because it may not affect them. Or have a jaded mindset of the server’s behaviors. I like to throw one thing out if it means anything... but I can say... since joining in 2017, and coming back in 2019... it is now that I see hope in the server... to instill other roleplay other than cops and robbers. the Judicial Branch and Court System was recently opened, which will be a floodgate of different roleplay to come for ALL players, cops, criminals, businesses, civilians, etc... we need to stop complaining about cops and robbers system and start focusing on areas where we lack.... A problem that I see on eclipse which is both a blessing and a curse is implementation of systems are very slow, and does not need to be slow. I understand staff members want it to be perfect, and want things to be applicable towards the server environment. But that mindset only slows the progress down. If I have the opportunity to roleplay another interest versus cop or criminal, I’m sure many other players like myself would jump at that opportunity as many have. People have left the cop and criminal RP to focus on building their business empires.... people have left factions to focus on government roleplay, judicial system. And others simply stay away from both to focus on character development and civilian roleplay. This is the current state of eclipse I think needs to the most attention to. To: ECRP Management if the ideas are practical, work, and all questions of concerns can be answered and effort put into establishing it. Allow the community to build it. Stop restricting it because the environment may not fit the idea. Thats not forward thinking and is conservative in nature. (i.e Allow for Elected Officials, and instead of turning away ideas because of a problem, work around that problem to mitigate it.) All in all, this message goes out to the ECRP Management and to ALL leadership in ALL factions and groups, and to all players alike. HAVE MORE HOPE FOR THE COMMUNITY. Stop the mindset; - if you don't like it, leave... - players on server are irresponsible to have an elected government. I see on this community, what led to the downfall of another... community... it is not too late!!!! But change needs to happen yesterday!!! and if a selected group of players are willing to put forth the effort to make the change! allow them!

As my fellow PD members have spoken, I 100% agree with their comments. But just to add onto this, gearing towards the IC matters, like it is as is, other than OOC toxicity, much of it is IC. I hate to say this, but the matters can be better or should be dealt with in an IC capacity. With the introduction of the court system very soon to come, it only means Internal Affairs will not be the only entity reviewing law enforcement and criminal conduct. Parties will be given the opportunity to argue their cases in an IC capacity. Again, I would suggest bringing up these matters ICly.

Revamp the Car Dealerships Objectives: Increase interactivity within the server. Increase more activities in the server for players to do. etc pros are endless. New System: Each Dealership will have a minimum showroom slots of 10 (different models to sell) Each Dealership will have a new set of commands / actions. /hiresales [hires a player into dealership, and grants them permission to /sellvehicle] /firesales [fired a player from dealership, and revokes their permission to /sellvehicle] /sellcarto [playerid] [vehicle model] If dealership has vehicle in stock, car will be sold manually from seller to customer. The seller would make a percentage of the commission from the sale. /setcommission [percentage] Command used by the owner to set the percent of commission a seller earns per car sale. /makemanager [grant a player sales permission and the following] Permission to order stock. Permission to hire sales associate Permission to fire sales associate /adjustcarprice [Command for owner] /restock [submits an order for trucker delivery to restock the vehicle models inventory Use by the owner/manager(s). Dealerships will sell different types of vehicles, brands and models. Motorcycle Dealership Hakuchou, Cliffhanger, etc. Luxury Dealership Conscenti, Benefactor, Stretch, etc. Truck Dealership Packer, Phantom, Caracara, Contender, Bison, etc. Etc. Etc Showroom: Vehicle models for sale, will be displayed at the dealer's showroom.