John Nut

What about adding some sort of feature where factions can put in influence/smuggled shit into a dealer. That specific dealer smuggles in to the jail "more influence better chance of succeding 100% of the items or less. Like knifes, lockpicks, cigars, blunts, food (small stuff that can make jail so more interesting and fun) When that faction comes into jail they already have stuff stashed away somehow or they need to buy em from a dealer for stamps or something. That would be a script way to do it where it can "profitable" for the factions to do it. And when some or one member of those factions are in jail, they can RP deal with civillians. As a gang member obviously should have a pretty respectable image from civillians comming into jails. Always find your group when in jail. If two factions are in jail this would also make interesting gang rp inside jail. Like shit talk turns into a person stabbed and the guards need to deal with the situation, check cctv and etc etc.

Sounds like a great idea with great oppertunitites a mega +1 +10 for the knife part. Would be really difficult but awesome to see some sort of gang organized economy/smuggling like knifes, lockpick? and etc small criminal stuff. But for a heavy price so only people who have long sentences should be able to get it. Maybe a set timer that only people with 1,5hours or something are able to get it "RP wise thats when you get the respect in jail for being in so long with the gangs"

Oh my bad, i see this maybe wasnt the best spot for this thread! i will go to both links and have a look! Appriciate it

What would people think about adding sum updates to jail. For those people with a bit heavier/longer sentences. It would be fun to add some sort of way to maybe smuggle something in via script. I dont know what to do to be able to smuggle it in. But if you are in here for a while and do surtain difficult tasks that can take a long time (something a bit enjoyable/grindy) like surtain tasks or somewhat. After sum hard work individually or by a few prisoners ganging up to be able to smuggle in a knife/make a shank, drugs, ??keycards??. So prisoners can by hard work make a riot or a hostage situation to make demands like getting served hamburgers from burger shot or other RP stuff. Ofc respecting rules, but adding a little bit more depth to jail than talk, mine, wait, repeat. Would be really fun and cool but sounds like alot of work. Just an idea. Or somehow be able to gather materials to eventuallyt make shanks and etc etc.

But there is also a large number of players who dont like it. And putting up and down a chop multiple times a day or even once a day is not very RP/real, so in my opinion saying "Its RP" is not a very good argument neither. So i disagree. I do understand you. But its just a discussion and the more views of point the better the discussion is. I think iv said my part now. Have a good day/night - John

Im not saying and i never said to just get acces like its baking a cake. im saying as far as my experience and what iv seen so far the majority of players do not get that chance matter what they do. As i said i think its too hard because gangs are to protective. Im in a gang so i have acces. Im talking about other people iv seen struggle. ofc a few people will manage it, but what about those 50 others who just aint that social, maybe doesnt speak good english and or just simply not liked by people/factions and etc. They struggle to make those connections. And also with the chop going up and down up and down. its not reliable for em like it is for us because we choose it. I dont want chop to be a closed circle where u gotta spend days or weeks to gain trust just to be able to maybe chop 5 cars a week. Are you guys bringing in vehicles from civillians more than once a week or are u like me and others and dont do it because we too scared to loose the shit. And i say it again i think the chop update is amazing, I love it. But I believe there are problems keeping it away from alot of the playerbase. Im not saying to remove this update, im saying tweak it and fix it, change a few small details so it makes it more interactive with everyone rather than those few people managing to get the trust and contact with Factions. Like the idea who came up here a few comments ago (Have factions set a location and its frozen for a periode of time, Cops can grab it and such if they would find it and have a warrent or whatever. Then it would be more reliable, people can even sneak chop on those faction stations but risc getting cought and suffer consequenses or not. It would make chop a smaller job so factions can do other things while people are able to chop. It would make it more accesable for civillians (they still need to get the location from those who knows where it is) not have a marker on the map CHOP SHOP. Still RP still interacting and making it accesable for more people at the same time. Or do u guys completely disagree? just descussing

Thats nice to hear, valid points. Yes you need to put more time in it and etc. And I do not dissagree with what ur saying, Thats kind off how its suppoused to stay and i understand thats how the server wants to have things. But there are so many people who just aint that social but still want to chop or maybe even good enough in english. And when its around lets say prime time 50+ people who wants to chop shop. Most likely most of them will be denied at the moment. As i Love this chop shop update im not saying that it should be removed, im saying that changes has to be done so it works more "globally" and not in a very closed circle/circles. Adding to the week long idea, It makes it also able for civillians to sneak chop their cars if they know the location and have the 3 tools they need. Just like old chops, if gangs found random people chopping on their turf. Then the other week they have to remove it and change location and somehow a tiny differently still keep it so other gangs/people can steal it. But maybe only specific times like the last day of the week, or a really long cooldown if someone fails to grab it and etc. I cant come up with a good idea on that right now.

+1 everyhing except hacking -1 if its like Nopixel style hacking

@Jorge Compass I havent met a single civillian who has been able to chop a single car since this update came out. We chopped 10 cars and got 13k cut out of it. You also need to spend everything u have to keep the chop running. U cant do it alone or with a friend, Its suicide both from cops looking to get you and gang members looking to frag and get sum free equipment. I have problems understanding why ur think its been reduced risc. When it takes longer most scenarious to lockpick, then just as long ov if not longer to hotwire (remember this is open streets cops patrole everywhere) then u gotta drive it to the chop where people can follow you, cops get notified just driving past u that its stolen. Its not reduced its fkin highly boosted risc. Dont forget the 20k hotwire, 9k tools and etc. Its not reduced. Brings more interaction between the gang members who are lucky enough to have the resources and numbers to keep it running. Not civillians as no gangs iv seen or heard about take it vehicles from civs. Cars spawn yes, but where are we gonna bring those cars is my question. U wanna take all my vehicles everyday or the 150 other civs who wants to steal cars and sell em but cant? its not working and its pretty obviouse too. Basically they removed chop shopping completely for 97% of regular civillians who maybe dont have any friends or friends of friends in gangs and etc. (dont take my precentage for facts its all opinions and examples)

This is just an opinion about the state right now. Chop Shops made it worse for crims and 100% worse for civs. Why it made it worse? If you put the price to just start a chop shop at around 250k. What regular civillian is gonna spend that price and put it up. Its to much of a risc because civillians dont run around in 10-20+ gangs who can clap you down and grab it no problem. Even tho it takes a long time to dismantle, all u need to do is kill the people at the chop and u have almost all the time in the world to take it down before they "legally" can come back without being banned, and cops is a threat too. Secondly its also riscy for gangs to keep it up. Which makes it stay open 1-2 days a week ONLY FOR the specific gang members, because of inactivity, and when people are on we have other stuff to do and etc. As when u open a chop shop u gotta have 100% focus on it to protect it, chop, transport the parts and etc etc etc. Do not get me wrong, i think the update is SUPER cool i fukin love it! But it doesnt work... Im lucky im part of a gang and get the chance to chop once a week or maybe twice. What about everyone else??? You need to balance this somehow, if not make it able to chop shop like before, but also like now. So people with the money and resourses and numbers to open up a chop shop themselfs. They get 100% the price like they do now. But also Keep the old chop shop, drop the car at chop wait 5 minutes. So regular people can make a tiny bit of money and can steal cars. As of now maybe 5% of the server has use of stealing cars. The rest can steal it but cant do nothing more than a joy ride. ATM is a good addition but it sucks, its to slow and also fucking booring. This is a game, not real life. Keep the fun. We dont come home after work wanting to work some more xD we wanna play and have fun. (yes many people like comming here actually working) But there are people who want to come here after a hard day of work. Enjoying his time doing crim with his friends. So i believe the civ and cop side is really cool I like the updates. But for crims... god daymn ur drying their money, drying their work and etc. I dont know what updates planned for crims. Lots of cool stuff, but if its all like the chop shop. Crim work has turned out as High risc low reward. Pick a car, hotwire a car, bring the car (cops drive past u with stolen car= fucked) Then bring it to the secret location, then pick it apart and make the whole city hear u doing it. Then go sell it. Lockpick=Risc, Hotwire=Risc Drive it to chop location is 250k risc and police risc. Then chop it =risc then go sell it =risc, then make it to bank with ur 30k or less. High risc low reward. Fix this plz, understand. Mix of rant and facts this long message. But for the past 3 weeks iv had fuckall to do unless all gang members are online. Then we have cops who overpower the crims. If cops try to arrest an unarmed civillian and he starts running. WHY the FUK do you taze him? he is no harm to anyone all he is doing is running away. If a civillian is trying to fist fight a cop, start fighting him back once in a while for gods sake dont just taze everyone first second anything goes down. I dont care if its REALISTIC its GAME RUINING. As i saw someone mention above. Why are there 2 helicopters and etc chasing a shennobi or drag. There should be OOC rules about stuff like this, abusing resources to stomp crims. Stop tazing everyone just because u want to be done with people. If ur a cop u gotta deal with the process of taking people to jail or actually failing to arrest someone, its part of the game. Just like we gotta spend 3-5 hours in jail for shooting someone. Part of the game, ur telling us to deal with it, why shouldnt you. Stop abusing resources and start playing fair. If there is a drag, bring a drag not 2 helicopters. Helicopters shouldnt be used in a chase unless he did some highly illegal activity, not just speeding away from a trafic stop. It ruins the experience. Why do u think 80% of the server is on Bf400 and etc, because cops abuse their resources. I also read that they just now got an update that made their cars loose fuel?? Like excuse me ???

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John Blowman Origin John Blowman was born and raised oversea in a town named Pyrgos. Pyrgos was a small village with extreme poor conditions almost like a favela. As a small child he used to sneak around avoiding trouble while his father was out trying to make money to support John, his adopted brother Buck and his Mother Mary. His main income was stealing cars and selling them to rouge mechanics in the area. So naturally he taught John all about the different ways of stealing a vehicle. When John turned 15 he started working alongside his father doing different routes to hopefully double the money as a duo, while his brother Buck started focusing on "administrative" work. After two good years, His father was arrested and eventually murdered by corrupt police officers they have had some problems with. This is when John started getting into heavier stuff like selling heavy weapons and drugs. Things started becomming very dangerous, as the same police officers who had killed his father now started hunting John down. But John dissapaired and rumours started spreading he was dead. 5 Years later His mother Mary turns on the news and hears that the very same 4 police officers who killed her husband were found dead in the woods not too far from where they all used to live. At aproximatly the same time John showed first signs of life. But not in Pyrgos... in Los Santos where his adopted brother Buck originates from. Specifically, Grove street. Balla's Introduction He lived with his adopted brother Buck in Grove street for a few months where he naturally met Ballas everyday as its their neighbourhood. Eventually Buck established more and more contact with Mike and Pooria which led to both Buck and John becomming Hangerounds, spending time doing what John was best at. Stealing and selling cars, drugs and weapons. Earning the trust of the Ballas, he was given the rank of Hood Rat. John Blowman -25 year old -professional carjacker -Armsdealer -drugdealer -R.E.A.L .G -----TOO BE CONTINUED-----

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Hello my name is John Blowman and im looking for a family/gang to join. Iv been trying to find work through meeting people and asking. But after a few weeks it seems to have failed. I have been scammed badly in the process. So making this thread as last resort. Hit me up if any of you are looking for a loyal family worker. -John Blowman