John Nut

I havent cooked in months and Iv used house robberies, banks and chops to make money as im tired of cooking. Just because Im making a thread doesnt mean im butthurt for loosing my income. Which in this case isnt true. Iv chosen to not cook for the past few months as im boored of it. That doesnt mean I wont defend private labs. I simply strongly dissagree with this update

Gang A and Gang B is a good option yes. But personally I wouldnt count that as much more RP. As its Gang A and B waiting for Gang C and D to /s HANDS OR DIE and a shootout happens.

Robbing houses is even less RP interactions then cooking 2bh. I go to dealer buy a house location, go alone to house, rob it and im done. sell the stuff at Pawn and sell cash to dealers. No RP interactions needed. BUT cops can get notified and thats one RP scenario.

This I can agree more on. Yes you do sometimes get cut off after setting up the lab. But not always, it depends on what your play style is. If you want to buy materials from other players like weed or ordering lysergic. Then you still RP interact with people. Or you go plant and pick plants in lab which also oppertunities to RP. I understand and I can somewhat agree with what the intentions and goals are, but I dissagree with how its being done. This new private lab "nerf" is not how to do it in my opinion.

You been a leader of gangs before. This is just nonsense, joke of the century. You know its more than spawning money inside properties xD. You dont just get a lab delivered to your lap. You need connections, weeks and months and more to build up cash. Then to use your connections to be able to buy or order this. More RP than most of people running labs will ever do :).

Joke of the century

This is a seriouse discussion, please no memes A legal with 40 hours could be more than halfway to buy a nice shinobi. But a crim, tripple that time if not more UNless you spent months to gather enough tables, vents, properties. 3-5 millions. which is A FUCKING LOT of Rp

Not when you spend 90k for one full geared trip to the lab which 70% will be lost as you die in labs. Lets say you possibly survive, then 40k-60k depending on how much the official gangs sold it to you for, has been lost in one simple armor. Bring that 90k profit down to 50k or less. That means you need to gear up fully to not be insta killed by a group. Thats 90k if not more. Then 50k materials for drugs, then either 12-15k for lysergic or spend a few hours collecting enough weed. which means you die you loose 150k give or take. and then you need to spend 3+ hours in private lab to contest that loss/rebuild????? or go back and possibly loose another 150k, or 50-100k if you dont want to gear up and just hope one of those 100+ crim players doesnt come robbin you If this is staying ingame, then god damn lower those weapon and armor prices and bring this new gun update xD so Crim items/prices gets a little more balanced. Luke Skywalker needs to come over here and bring balance to the force. Iv had a legal alt for over a year. Iv bought 1 pistol from the gun store. Still have that one pistol. I get guns free from work when working in SD. I buy a house and a car and then maybe save up to something bigger. I never ever loose something and investments are not to be seen unless ur building a buiz from scrap. But with Crims, you literally put hundreds of thousands on the line just to operate a chop shop (that can be comped/stolen by other crims or cops) , or 3-4 million on a private lab which is now useless and just been completely ruined (that can be comped/stolen by other crims or cops). Making 6-9k an hour for crims doesnt work for crims. that can barely give you one pistol unless you buy for stock price. Which is very hard to get nowdays with the limited official factions. Comparing Legal prices to crim prices does not work and will never work.

I understand that filling 1 bottle is more realistic. But adding minigame to water tables, minigame for refilling bottles 1 by 1. Tables get warmer quicker. Have and will completely kill private labs. At this point there is NO reason at all to own a public lab as ATM's will make you better money and be a better option. My suggestion is to either add sinks back into properties where you can refill the bottles. Remove the watering table minigame and keep the tables same as before with how warm they get. At this point with this new update there is no reason to own a 2-3+ million drug lab as its competely killed. Also wall safes are broken so thats GG. I understand that you want to push more public labs, but it is already buffed so hard and by adding this is basically forcing all small time criminals to go to labs where you 80% will get murdered by one of the 4 other Gigantic Demon clapping gangs. There is no balance at this point. I felt like that those big gangs have easier acces to cook in public labs as they have alot of gang members and its quicker to cook. But those smaller criminals now have no other way than to spend 3 hours to cook 90k profit. This will push more people out of the server as not everyone likes clapping/getting clapped in labs . There is alot of players with skill issues on the server.

Date and time (provide timezone): 15:26 CET Character name: John Reggal Issue/bug you are reporting: Public chop shops Expected behavior: Consawing in public chops Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: Hey! Ever since the new chop shops came into town there has been a known issue with the consaw where it is saying that you need to be in the chop shop to be able to consaw it. Even tho all the tools are closeby the toolbox and etc. What we use to do there is to log in and out until it works and hoping it would work, eventually we found out that the person that placed the toolbox has a higher chance or if not the only person actually able to consaw it. With the new public chop shops we were not able to consaw the vehicle at all. Tenbae and another admin tried to help but still didnt work. I think this bug is something that needs to be checked into now specially when there are public chops. As mentioned this is a bug that has happened ever since the new chop system was implemented but now with the public chops it does not seem like anyone is able to consaw it. thanks! Vehicle license plate number*: All NPC spawned and player vehicles

+1

stop bein pussios, fight in colour 1+ this isnt a game, this is real life. Keep it 100. No monkey shit

Vehicle is at HE

I still have it, I can place it at HE in around 10 minutes

210k so around 100k give or take

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AAAAA shiet! Here we go again!

This way chopping can turn into another option for cooking and help "save" the crim on the server right now. the current state of chops is "make a garage on your property and give it a few days before someone hears a sound and raids it because of one or two sounds" This is what I strongly dissagree on when this is a Strict real life simulator. Any legal person could have a own mechanic station set up in their garage, as I do in real life. Makes no sense for gangs and randoms to raid a property simply because of 1 tire exploding or sound of the lift or whatever. therefor Having a GTA ONLINE type garage where you enter just like properties and houses/drive it in as in GTA ONLINE style ish, would make it so the same rule applies as it does to property labs and houses - You cant raid a lab/house simply for seeing someone walk in a property with a gun on their hip and a crate in their hand. They need to have solid RP evidence to raid it. If Garages like GTA ONLINE 12 car garages or smaller is implemented same rules can apply and makes it more realistic and better for CRIMS on ecrp. The bigger the garage the more expensive just like the properties being used for cooking. This way the price range would be almost equal to starting a lab. 1-2Mill for a 6-12 GTA online style garage, 200k ish for the chop equipment and etc. Another way of implementing it is to use buisness properties. Like the way we see basement under the buisiness place like a night club. Under that night club is a basement where your character does illegal work and or more legal works. Using that with the script can associate chops, cooks, fight clubs, you name it to be done with a peace of mind as well as with many other people too. And as for those who cannot afford such rich business places, they could still keep doing the chops as they are done right now. With more risc. Here are some pictures Inside here there would fit a few chop stations maybe 2 or more. maybe not more than 2-3. Costing the ish same amount as big properties which can be used as a cooking lab and whatever. Smaller garage costing same amount ish as smallest property, also can be used as normal garage or chops station. Adding this would make it way easier for crews, gangs to properly RP doing chops. Instead of crim turning into a fighting sim and E & SPACE simulator.

-1 This would make Crim characters/factions struggle even more. As they keep needing to change clothes and etc to stay hidden from cops and rival gangs. BUT Maybe having a command where "I /alias someone, they need to accept the alias. If its a stranger he can deny it and go on his way. But if there would be a reason to remember him, he would accept. That might be a better idea if many people have a problem with random /alias.

Epic Idea, makes alot of sense and with the addition of roadwork and burger shot in my opinion, i think a car wash with hourly pay and etc sounds like a good new feature/freelance and a dependant job that people will spend time on because of the hourly pay. This also creates more better RP scenariouse, instead of going to a mechanic and paying half ur wallet on a simple car wash. +1

I think regular updates would be good for the community. Dev blogs monthly or something like that might make the community feel more connected and "happier"