Any PVP-related game modifications should be against the rules

[alexalex303]

I am not talking about NVE or mods that make your game pretty. 

Anything that makes your game brighter than it's meant to be, anything that boosts color vibrance and any custom crosshairs should fall under unfair modifications. 

This would be a game rule, and therefore this would be a rule for ALL: cops, md, crims, legals.

Allow me demonstrate what I'm talking about with a series of pictures. This is how my game (default gta, no mods) looks at night at Rooks Hotel.

Now let's add some brightness to it, so that we can see in the shadows.

But now it's a bit washed out, it's hard to tell what colors people are wearing, so let's add some digital vibrance.

And in case we forgot how it looked at the start..

The only thing missing now is a crosshair in the center and I'm ready to.. roleplay? The fact that these kind of modifications are currently allowed on a roleplay server is an issue, in my opinion.

"How can we enforce this?" Same way we do with people that remove shadows. If they post a video looking like this, they get a warning, second time they get banned.

If they want to play with an advantage, they won't be able to report people without self-reporting. Either way we get less reports or less unfair advantages, win/win.

[Diligo]

That is if people record with Shadowplay.

The back of my neck is scratching everytime i use nvidia shadowplay(idk why, something, something, speeding the aging of my SSD)  thats why i use OBS.
Funny enough but OBS records core gameplay and not NVE or Nvidia graphics, dont know about anything else.
People using medal or whatever else than OBS are self reporting because of their ignorance.
All of my recording look like i havent edited anything except for brightness all the way turned up, i dont use NVE but i know it doesnt get recorded with OBS.

Now they know OBS fixes any self reports, happy gaming!

[Rage.]

1 hour ago, Diligo said:

Funny enough but OBS records core gameplay and not NVE or Nvidia graphics, dont know about anything else.

no matter what, NVE or any other graphic mod shows up on everyone's POV, regardless of where they record it on?

idk where you heard this from but you got lied to gang

[Diligo]

12 minutes ago, Rage. said:

no matter what, NVE or any other graphic mod shows up on everyone's POV, regardless of where they record it on?

idk where you heard this from but you got lied to gang

yeah youre right wouldnt make sense, because one is adding a filter, the other one basically removes shadows not filters them out. anyways ill get on NVE soon 

Edited May 29, 2025 by Diligo

[Harveyyy]

Respectfully, the server has turned into a cops and robbers fivem server. It's anything but a roleplay server. People only use those mods to enhance their PvP gameplay and to win more fights. You're not addressing the root cause of the issue here. Also, how can you enforce the "no-crosshair" rule when most gaming monitors have it built in as a feature which cannot be recorded by any software? 

Edited May 29, 2025 by Harveyyy

[PrexDal]

Its a game mate, people want to enhance their GAMEplay.

Every other server allows reshade/Nvidia Filters, don't see an issue with it.

 

If I log on everyday to "RP" and 80% of the time having it end with PVP, I would like to see what I'm shooting at. Next its going to be "Having a HUD is not very realistic, People will know when they're going to die exactly"

 

So many discussions, all of them "beating around the bush" of the PVP issue, 100s of suggestions in (crim suggestions), but I think its time for roadworking overhaul no?

[alexalex303]

3 minutes ago, PrexDal said:

If I log on everyday to "RP" and 80% of the time having it end with PVP

That might be related to who you associate with or what activities you do, I assure you that's not the norm, nor should it be.

[Rage.]

18 minutes ago, PrexDal said:

but I think its time for roadworking overhaul no?

how does this fix anything

[PrexDal]

18 minutes ago, alexalex303 said:

That might be related to who you associate with or what activities you do, I assure you that's not the norm, nor should it be.

Anyone who says what your saying is respectfully delusional, and that's why the "issue" hasn't been addressed, people just choose to avoid the actual problem.

Crim RP now is again 80% PVP.

 

Chop, rob houses -----> buy guns from Lost -------> Cook drugs for more money --------> Buy Bigger Guns ------> Push people for their guns.

 

the 20% is the RP done to buy guns

Edited May 29, 2025 by PrexDal

[PrexDal]

3 minutes ago, Rage. said:

how does this fix anything

it doesnt, and thats the point

[Rage.]

Just now, PrexDal said:

it doesnt, and thats the point

ya my bad didnt realize it was sarcasm

anyways, like ive stated on a few other of these "crim fix suggestions", this is not the root problem and does not fix anything. who gives a shit if someones game is brighter than yours. everything they do, you can also do.

Edited May 29, 2025 by Rage.

[alexalex303]

20 minutes ago, Rage. said:

ya my bad didnt realize it was sarcasm

anyways, like ive stated on a few other of these "crim fix suggestions", this is not the root problem and does not fix anything. who gives a shit if someones game is brighter than yours. everything they do, you can also do.

because it shouldn't be a race all the way to the lowest possible denominator

with some of these pessimistic replies we might as well remove RP, have factions turn into teams in a TDM game mode and call it a day.

[PrexDal]

Just now, alexalex303 said:

because it shouldn't be a race all the way to the lowest possible denominator

with some of these pessimistic replies we might as well remove RP, have factions turn into teams in a TDM game mode and call it a day.

would probably reduce the amounts of player reports, good suggestion.

[Rage.]

9 minutes ago, alexalex303 said:

because it shouldn't be a race all the way to the lowest possible denominator

with some of these pessimistic replies we might as well remove RP, have factions turn into teams in a TDM game mode and call it a day.

what problem does this fix?

yes yes, no more brighter games, everyone is on the same playing-field. does this actually fix the problem of shootouts? no. it doesn't. the same amount of shootouts will occur. the same people who PVP every day will keep PVPing every day, except they have less brighter games?

i just fail to see anything important that this would fix lol

Edited May 30, 2025 by Rage.

[Steven Hayes]

If you insist on banning custom crosshairs then add a serverside mod that makes the crosshair not disspear while shooting certain guns especially the .50

[RJThompson]

5 minutes ago, Steven Hayes said:

If you insist on banning custom crosshairs then add a serverside mod that makes the crosshair not disspear while shooting certain guns especially the .50

exactly, most guns dont have a crosshair when you actually fire the weapon. so its not the fact i want to pvp 100% of the time on the server. but if i do i wanna see what im shooting at

 

and i have graphic mods to make the game look pretty, anyone can do it. if you think your at a disadvantage due to it. then guess what, you can also make your game brighter and cool looking. and like rage said, people will pvp if they want no matter their graphics? doesnt make any difference man

[CalvinKlein]

-1 even tho I don't PVP all the time, or have any Mods, let people make their game as nice / colorful as they want, anybody can if their PC isn't potato. 

at this point ppl just hating / trying to nitpick on anything crims do

Edited May 30, 2025 by CalvinKlein

[Thang]

7 hours ago, alexalex303 said:

The only thing missing now is a crosshair in the center

It’s also missing stretch-res. You can’t roleplay when everyone isn’t looking like a fat midget.

 

But yeah, I fully support this suggestion.

[alexalex303]

1 hour ago, RJThompson said:

exactly, most guns dont have a crosshair when you actually fire the weapon. so its not the fact i want to pvp 100% of the time on the server. but if i do i wanna see what im shooting at

 

and i have graphic mods to make the game look pretty, anyone can do it. if you think your at a disadvantage due to it. then guess what, you can also make your game brighter and cool looking. and like rage said, people will pvp if they want no matter their graphics? doesnt make any difference man

this was addressed in the OP, NVE and other mods that are meant to make your game look better are fine

no one is blowing out their brightness and cranking vibrance for "cool looks", they're doing it for an advantage in pvp

at least be honest like harveyyy, its fine to disagree but shouldn't pretend its something its not

[Billy Valentine]

The fact that you're trying to make out such a simple thing as saturation and brightness on a game to be, "PVP mentality" ? is just quite ridiculous. You quite obviously worded your suggestion in an attempt to make it seem as if these types of graphics help players in PVP scenario's and I just have to find that funny.

I say this for myself and I'd assume many others, people use these kinds of graphics because it's what they like. I hope that isn't too hard for you to wrap your head around.

19 hours ago, alexalex303 said:

no one is blowing out their brightness and cranking vibrance for "cool looks", they're doing it for an advantage in pvp

Again, you're taking something hardly related to PVP and trying to blow it way out of proportion and make people think there is something bad/wrong about it and it needs to be changed. 
I can fully agree with stuff like NVE bushes not being allowed as it is super unfair but restricting things such as the way someone's game looks? Is simply just bullshit and should not be done. If I want my game to be bright and saturated, so be it, it's displayed on my screen.

These graphics are not "PVP graphics".

[tuccci]

+ 1 if you want more RP and less PVP, ban people who prioritize PVP over RP. 

Reward people who RP instead of PVP.

Current systems reward the opposite. 

[CharlesXiao]

I first turned up my saturation when I was working at Weazel two years ago. Completely legal. Reason behind it was base GTA color-wise just looks incredibly depressing compared to when you turn up situation a little. I really do fail to see how turning this up is a "PVP" related mod. Anyone can turn it up, this definitely won't help you at all in a fight other than seeing another player and going "wow his pink sweatshirt looks extra pink". Nonetheless whether you turn saturation up or not colors such as red, blue, green, yellow etc... will still be the same color!  

[Bala]

Sorry but I don't think the people that stretch the fuck out of their resolution and purposely make their games look like shit because they feel the need to give themselves a competitive edge on a roleplay server should be subjected to server punishments.

I think that is a bit of a grey area and ultimately, it's somewhat of an inconsistent enforcement because unless you're going to stream your game looking more GTA San Andreas than GTA V like that criminal streamer does or share a POV self incriminating, it would be pretty easy to avoid detection.

I'm being dead serious when I say this next bit, don't think it's sarcasm but I think people that do this for a competitive edge should honestly have the piss taken out of them and be ridiculed in the community. Making your game look like hot microwaved garbage on purpose in a roleplay server for a few extra frames per second so you can maybe clap better, is crazy work.

Shameful shit. Don't punish these people, laugh at them.

[SteakHappy]

Same root-issue as most of these discussion posts:

Stop moving this server towards PVP. If labs weren't basically a free pvp zone and 87% of the server pop weren't cheating, people wouldn't be doing things to add a competitive edge.

While I agree that personal responsibility is a thing, staff have created the current mindset on this server. Crims who still want to RP are basically made fun of. If you follow the crowd, you're shooting all day.

It's not even just the crims anymore. Most RPers have left or settled into the current climate of the server. Everyone is just looking for a fight. We have GND officers with "jump out gang" (or something along those lines) in their forum signatures, for christ's sake.

I'd love for this to be an RP server again!

Edited June 5, 2025 by SteakHappy

[Bala]

50 minutes ago, SteakHappy said:

Same root-issue as most of these discussion posts:

Stop moving this server towards PVP. If labs weren't basically a free pvp zone and 87% of the server pop weren't cheating, people wouldn't be doing things to add a competitive edge.

While I agree that personal responsibility is a thing, staff have created the current mindset on this server. Crims who still want to RP are basically made fun of. If you follow the crowd, you're shooting all day.

It's not even just the crims anymore. Most RPers have left or settled into the current climate of the server. Everyone is just looking for a fight. We have GND officers with "jump out gang" (or something along those lines) in their forum signatures, for christ's sake.

I'd love for this to be an RP server again!

There's nothing wrong with the PVP itself, it's just that it's the main source of entertainment right now and where does that happen? Labs. Why does it happen there? Because robbing and killing people in non-isolated spots is frowned upon.

The biggest problem with PVP that I can see at the moment, is everyone (cop/crim) is using the nuclear weapons. It's like Rust and everyone has the AK blueprint on fresh wipe day. 

People doing anything to win, because they can't take a loss isn't anything new. Too many people see their characters as an extension of themselves, because they aren't playing a character, they're playing themselves. They don't want to lose here too.

Address the entertainment factor for criminal stuff and it'll take care of itself. You'll still get clapping, but it won't be the only film playing at the cinema.

I can't lie, in the rare times I'm in one, I'd rather be involved in a shootout even if i'm target practice than sit through another criminal faction going all Iranian Embassy on city hall on a weekly basis kidnapping a Government official then getting misty eyed because they didn't get away with doing it.

Edited June 5, 2025 by Bala