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Add a timer to drug use

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My personal concern here is not regarding the power of it as much. I think it makes a lot of sense for it to be a stronger effect than pain killers, and I am all for that. You have to put in effort to make blunts and have the added risk of carrying them around with you. My primary concern is how unrealistic they are in their current state. It makes no sense from a roleplay perspective to get the effects you do from it without even properly smoking it. People literally click use and then do /flick less than a second later. Perhaps some people may forget, but this is a roleplay server at the end of the day and we should be looking for ways to improve the quality of RP, and this interaction does not currently add to that. 

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I disagree. I think players need to understand that we do not always aim for realism but for the fun of the game as well. There's nothing realistic about sparking a blunt mid gunfight for extra perks, should it be removed or nerfed? No. This has been set in place for several months now and if anything was considered a bug or not intended about it, it would have been fixed.

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As a server which has always tried to prided itself on realism. I think perhaps this was just an oversight due to the size of the drug update and how this would affect the server as a whole. no one is sitting here and saying taking a puff from a joint should suddenly give you these buffs, but, they are now a core part for better and worse of the PVP scene. which existed just fine before it. I guess devs will decide that and none of us.

Once again, I think a timer, even if its just for the first toke to recieve the buff. is perfectly reasonable. it wouldnt even affect most situations cus to be fair, you puff when you are in cover. for the most part anyways.

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On 12/8/2024 at 10:44 AM, Toxine said:

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Why are we trying to nerf literally every crim aspect? What's so overpowered about criminals that every suggestion needs to be a nerf? 
Isn't the situation that happened last night with LEO's vs Gangs more than enough as proof that the server is pretty LEO favored? (as it should be). 

This isn't a LEO vs Crim centered post, its about the way its currently used in general. 

I don't know what situation your talking about in specific, however I can recall SEVERAL situations that do not favor LEO's, Crims are also able to do a multitude of things Leo's cannot. I can bring up specific instances if you would like as I have most of my playtime recorded but that doesn't serve a purpose for this suggestion. 

 

You think that hitting a blunt will restore your HP fully, it takes a while to get your HP back, and in the middle of a shoot out, you're not going to use more than 1/2 blunts.

 

I do not think this. I'm fully aware that its not an instant full affect. Its the same with painkillers 

 

This can't be a thing because certain actions cannot be done with a blunt in your hand. You need to /toss or /flick before you can do those actions. 
Meaning that if you have to hit your blunt to recover your HP, you cant do the other things. 

 

What do you mean other things? Like shooting and doing actions like that? That would make sense as you have something in your hand and are actively smoking it.
 

IRL a blunt wont stop you from doing stuff, any experienced smoker can hold a blunt/cig in their mouth without issues. 
Additionally, keep in mind that crims have to go pick the plants, cook the plants, have the blunts on them (risking of losing it), for what? Just for that to be nerfed? 

 

As somebody who lives in a legal state and consumes cannabis and even for the years I smoked cigs, even then having a blunt or a cig in your mouth while doing something causes problems (trying to hit it while moving and smoke getting in your eyes when your not) I do keep that in mind, but your basically saying "because we have to do it illegally, its okay for it to stay broken?  Features that come into the server get adjusted ALL the time.
 

What's the next suggestion going to be? Illegal weapons do 50% less damage to LEO's? Non legal character will have their HP capped at 50%? Isn't 200 AP, all the guns you can think of, virtually unlimited ammo thanks to /fl, unlimited plates thank to /fl, armored vehicles, etc.. more than enough for PD/SD to have a CLEAR advantage during shootouts? 

 

There's no need for histrionics. Again this is not a LEO vs Crim centered post this is just as a whole. Where do you get your information that LEO's just all have 200ap armor? Because this is not true in the slightest. just because something exist scriptly doesn't mean its used or supposed to be used. Yes, It would make sense for a member of s.w.a.t to have an extra vest in their supply bag and or cruiser. That doesn't not mean that they are unlimited and there's actually pretty strict rules revolving around the RP SPESIFICALLY as to not make it broken and unfair. 

Want to balance it? Sure. 
Make it so sellable Weed is a different item from the one you smoke, then make the smokable have a max stack of 5.

+1 to this! this is all this post was to stimulate was suggestions on adjusting a feature. 

 

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On 12/8/2024 at 2:51 PM, Billy Valentine said:

Not really sure why you think this is "unfair" in any way shape or form. Your wording makes it seem like only a select group of people have access to blunts, anyone that plays the server is able to get blunts, use blunts and get the same effects that everyone else does from blunts in the exact same amount of time as everyone else.

Nothing about the current blunt system is unbalanced or unfair at all.

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I will take responsibility for that, I apologize that my wording made it seem out that way. While I understand what you mean, But just because everyone is able to get them doesn't make them any less broken imo. It feels like the mindset "Well its broken and I use it, but they can use it too so it should be okay. The point is the whole thing in general needs a rework

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On 12/8/2024 at 5:42 PM, Kon said:

I think you're missing the point that blunts ARE SUPPOSED to be better versions of painkillers. they are an ILLEGAL alternative that help very slightly in activities that crims are a part of (shootouts/lockpicking). Crims need to go to a drug lab, pick the plants, then cook them into blunts. If they are successful in first getting a hold of them,  now they have to carry them until it becomes useful to actually use it... That's assuming you haven't been pulled over and searched, or arrested for another crime then hit with another charge because of the blunts, or maybe the officer just smelt it ! oh or maybe your cute little dog sniffed it out. 

There are ZERO downsides to buying a legal painkiller.

Adding a 10 second sit and look at the screen into visual effects would make blunts so dog shit me and a lot of people just wouldn't use them anymore as the trade off wouldn't make sense for a bit of a heal and 10% damage reduction. If I can barely see and had to afk for 10 seconds before hand it would bring the blunt back in line with a painkiller, which it is SUPPOSED to outperform. 

A blunt is not LSD. Get rid of the ugly visual effects, aint no one tripping like that off a blunt, just give it a 5 second puff animation, sorted.

Kon, Ike hates you (not me :kek:) (alot) :kek: but thank you for being positive and tbh giving a banger of a suggestion. I think a 5 sec timer would honestly be perfect. 

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On 12/7/2024 at 10:29 PM, RAttlesnake7473 said:

LEO’s also just use blunts. i’m not too sure why this is being pushed so hard to be changed. Why break something that isn’t broken yk

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@Jett_J care to explain pal.....

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On 12/9/2024 at 10:08 AM, Spizor said:

I disagree. I think players need to understand that we do not always aim for realism but for the fun of the game as well. There's nothing realistic about sparking a blunt mid gunfight for extra perks, should it be removed or nerfed? No. This has been set in place for several months now and if anything was considered a bug or not intended about it, it would have been fixed.

I think what is considered "fun" is open to interpretation 

That being said there have been several features that have had their use changed. I remember not to long ago it was considered NRP to take painkillers in a firefight. I don't think a concern has been raised due to a few reasons. The one that come to mind off top is Because of how its currently used its beneficial to everyone who uses it in that way, because a lot of people do use it whether it be crim or LEO or even civilian. But that just raises the mindset of "Well everyone uses it so I might as well too" even though I think its broken but that just my opinion.

 

 

 

 

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