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@Aldarine I don't see as just a basic response meant to deter or shut somebody out. As I stated earlier and stated before most of the staff here are great and want to help its not the whole. While I am extremely frustrated by the situation as a whole not just getting banned on the discord. If this kind of simple conversation could happen instead of just jumping the gun, I could have easily vented the frustration to the staff member and come to a resolution that is fair on both accounts. Thank you I appreciate it and you reaching out

Your correct @Aldarine , on it being mildly derailing the original post and yes I am venting out a little about the situation out of frustration, however its not just "My personal situation" almost every person that commented on this were timed out or banned at the same time by the same person including the poster. Which I apologize for It is frustrating beyond belief that staff and normal people can have those shit posting conversations and post memes about coping or getting good all while teasing with little time outs (I have witnessed this SO many times) but then on the same leaf if something that they don't like gets said they just timeout or ban I don't think that its transparency for timeout/bans just for the reasoning that is the issue, A lot of people want transparency with the staff when the act they way that they do, and when it is brought up not getting the stereotypical HR damage control response.

I understand and agree with most of it, perhaps this exact situation that everyone is upset about is specifically because we were all timed out/banned by the same person, who that person is also the one who handled the appeals. Even then, not giving a place for an actual conversation to happen instead of putting in a basic appeal only for it to be denied and archived before that person even sees it. "You may re-appeal no sooner than one (1) month from the date of this post, I suggest you show more remorse in your next appeal in order to return. Furthermore, any attempts at contacting staff relating to this appeal or any further instances of continued negative behavior may lead to this time being extended" 1. What am I to be "more remorseful" about? Sure ill apologize for going along with the entire channel, not actually saying the stuff (that others only got a timeout for) and take that timeout like a champ. But to fully ban is actual brain rot and a bruised ego. I'm not gonna gonna beg and plead and worship the ground that admin walks on just to get back into a discord channel. (which mind you has 5 YEARS of content, clips and memories). Not to mention all the trouble and setup to get all the roles and benefits attached. 2. So I have to wait a FULL MONTH to even talk about the ban again? and then to top if off again if not "remorseful" enough that exact same admin just denies it again and that's the end of it. That completely removes the ability to get a fair say or even have a conversation "Anymore attempts at contacting staff" basically just lets them force their opinion and not give anybody a chance to tell them they are wrong or honestly not being what a staff member should be People are upset because that is the status quo, Nobody can claim truthfully and faithfully that some members of staff has bias opinions toward players for a multitude of reasons and nothing is ever done, and if anybody speaks on it, its immediately seen as being toxic or disrespectful which leads for more bans/timeouts, Its not fair that an admin who crashed out/got upset/ for them to be the only one that is handling/influencing the situation To round it out, I also want to mention that in the 5 years I have been on this server, I have been timed out maybe 5 times and literally for 2 minutes, and that was just me and the staff goofing off. I have never gotten reported,punished for anything IC or OOC, literally spotless. So ill reiterate the fact that going to a full ban over something this insanely small is outrageous and shouldn't be okay

Not to mention, having two accounts on discord isn't against the rules, I'm actually kinda laughing at the fact that out of all of the troll/meme/arguments that were going on and the things that were said even those people got timeouts. A full ban is insane behavior

Timmayy I love you but I disagree. The same person timed out all of us and then denied our appeals almost immediately. No way to communicate just "Im right your wrong" It really seems like an ego stroke to be honest, I don't think admins who get their feelings hurt or abuse their privilege should be the ones to handle the unban in situations like this. Totally shut down. Makes me actually want to quit the server chief

I don't think the complaints were meant to derail this, just the discontent with the situation as we were almost all affected during the last big time out/ban session, you included. I think the points in your original post are valid. Multiple people were timed out and have issues with the reason/timing of it

+1 as well to this, I was banned for the incident last night, mind you I wasn't even discussing the active topic, just sending out updates on those who got timed out as they were getting timed out so quickly. Was it supposed to be funny? Yes. Was it? Yes. I was timed out, then I went on my other account (I have a sperate phone account as I cannot log into discord on my phone and I still like to see what's active in the community when I'm on vacation or away from my computer) and updated it with my name as the final nail to finish out the joke. I was then Banned on both of my accounts. From my research and communication with several people. It is not against the rules to have 2 accounts. (I have responded to admins, posted in channels for a LONG time with the other account so its not like I made a brand new account and joined the server I was also given no heads up or warning or for why/who issued the ban or timeout Overall this just feels unnecessary and targeted a time out? Sure Ill handle that, not to mention I now have to go back in and get all of my roles and channels established once unbanned. Were some people being harsh and a little idiotic? yes but again I stand by the fact that I said nothing of the sort to anybody.

+1 Feels like it shouldnt be too hard. as far as the K9 for policing, would it be possible to maybe create custom pet ped for K9 users? Maybe something along those lines if thats how it works

I haven't been able to get the email to change passwords, its not in any of my spam or junk folders

I think what is considered "fun" is open to interpretation That being said there have been several features that have had their use changed. I remember not to long ago it was considered NRP to take painkillers in a firefight. I don't think a concern has been raised due to a few reasons. The one that come to mind off top is Because of how its currently used its beneficial to everyone who uses it in that way, because a lot of people do use it whether it be crim or LEO or even civilian. But that just raises the mindset of "Well everyone uses it so I might as well too" even though I think its broken but that just my opinion.

and that's all fine and dandy. If it was changed it would affect both sides.. this isnt a LEO vs crim debate.

Kon, Ike hates you (not me :kek:) (alot) :kek: but thank you for being positive and tbh giving a banger of a suggestion. I think a 5 sec timer would honestly be perfect.

I will take responsibility for that, I apologize that my wording made it seem out that way. While I understand what you mean, But just because everyone is able to get them doesn't make them any less broken imo. It feels like the mindset "Well its broken and I use it, but they can use it too so it should be okay. The point is the whole thing in general needs a rework

Yes that's true WITH RP, you are supposed to take the time to RP changing them out, which runs the risk/reward of you getting shot up because your stopping to do an action