padpilot Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 Due to experienced players juust buying and flipping houses, staff included, I think it is reasonable to put a system in place which helps first time buyers (newer players) get a foot on the property ladder. This should be an easy implementation with a slight UI change, a timestamp in the DB to remove the UI and a check on the database to see if a player has ever owned a property. Essentially, when a property is placed onto the market by staff, from inactive players, players who already own a home should not be able to purchase the newly available property for a certain amount of time (ideally 3-5 days). This gives first time property buyers a chance to possible save a bit more, then to purchase the property. This is aimed at helping player retention, giving access to properties to players who don't already have one and I cannot see how this could impact the server in a negative way. UI Changes - Add a "First home" line to the property UI during the 3-5 day period i mentioned - Remove the UI once the period has ended. Cheers Quote
Demonmit1 Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 Property auctions are pretty rare. I've been on the server for over a year now and I've only seen one happen. I think this is a poor solution to the current problem, when there is already a better solution that has already been implemented, and should just happen again. Real property, anything that's a unique door, has an inherently higher value for most people due to being secluded, and potentially having land to use. Id argue heavily against making a system that favors new characters to have an advantage to buying property. Whoever gets it should get it. If staff want to contribute positively to housing for new players / characters, we need to do another round of apartments being added to the towers, or have an automated system that ads a new apartment number and time one is sold, preventing flipping apartments, while maintaining values of real property Quote
padpilot Posted October 16, 2024 Author Report Posted October 16, 2024 11 minutes ago, Demonmit1 said: Property auctions are pretty rare. I've been on the server for over a year now and I've only seen one happen. I think this is a poor solution to the current problem, when there is already a better solution that has already been implemented, and should just happen again. Real property, anything that's a unique door, has an inherently higher value for most people due to being secluded, and potentially having land to use. Id argue heavily against making a system that favors new characters to have an advantage to buying property. Whoever gets it should get it. If staff want to contribute positively to housing for new players / characters, we need to do another round of apartments being added to the towers, or have an automated system that ads a new apartment number and time one is sold, preventing flipping apartments, while maintaining values of real property Oh ok, maybe i am not clued up enough with the current system then tbf I just bought a property for 200,000 and I figured it was an auto auction one as it had lockers and items still inside it... I had just assumed this was due to the player being inactive and after a set amount of time the property is automatically listed again to buy. Ill research the current system more, cheers mate Quote
Requiem Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 5 hours ago, padpilot said: Oh ok, maybe i am not clued up enough with the current system then tbf I just bought a property for 200,000 and I figured it was an auto auction one as it had lockers and items still inside it... I had just assumed this was due to the player being inactive and after a set amount of time the property is automatically listed again to buy. Ill research the current system more, cheers mate Your understanding is correct. After 90 days of ECRP account inactivity, the server script now automatically places the inactive player's house up for auction with a blip on the map for it. There are of course still instances where houses can still be intentionally sold by active players as well though. Quote
padpilot Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 15 hours ago, Requiem said: Your understanding is correct. After 90 days of ECRP account inactivity, the server script now automatically places the inactive player's house up for auction with a blip on the map for it. There are of course still instances where houses can still be intentionally sold by active players as well though. ahh ok, yeah as I thought then. So yeah, for these auto-selling inactivity houses I would stand by the original suggestion that players that have never bought a property before, should get a small 48-72 hour window where they have priority purchase. cheers. Quote
Chrisy Posted October 18, 2024 Report Posted October 18, 2024 If anything I’d suggest introducing 1G apartments instead house houses so new players don’t get rinsed by the market for a shit 1G house in Jamestown. Quote
drain Posted October 18, 2024 Report Posted October 18, 2024 If anything I’d suggest introducing 1G apartments instead of houses so new players don’t get rinsed by the market for a shit 1G house in Jamestown. 1 Quote
padpilot Posted October 18, 2024 Author Report Posted October 18, 2024 10 minutes ago, Chrisy said: If anything I’d suggest introducing 1G apartments instead house houses so new players don’t get rinsed by the market for a shit 1G house in Jamestown. Yeah could also do that for sure however still feel like to help alleviate the "flipping" aspect by experienced/longer players (those that own multiple houses), my original suggestion would be more on point... but yeah, can do both tbf./ Quote
Tomvd682 Posted October 18, 2024 Report Posted October 18, 2024 If anything I’d suggest introducing 1G apartments instead of houses so new players don’t get rinsed by the market for a shit 1G house in Jamestown. Quote