Puzzling

Are you holding the letter 'o', as just pressing it doesn't work? Are you positive it doesn't say anything such as it being closed, could there be mechanics working at another shop such as Bayview if you are trying this at LSC?

I don't know why but this has been how it has functioned for years. I honestly think it is how it was developed and not a bug. Though this would be a pretty good suggestion to get changed.

Big +1 to be able to do this, honestly with DCC in mind, just don't allow this functionality in a DCC-spawned vehicle, just put a flag or something.

That place is currently owned by someone IC, I don't think they use it anymore or haven't in a while. They could totally do that if there was the RP for it and people were interested. If someone didn't own it that would be a super cool scripted job idea.

[Hunting] Gutting now works with Switchblades and Machetes; Nice!

+1 While trucking you should be on the trucking radio frequency doing your job.

-1 because it shouldn't be a mechanics' job to enforce parking laws unless called upon by PD/SD to do that as their job. PD also have flatbed and are able to tow, but obviously, if they are busy then that is on them for not having the resources to enforce that sort of thing. Mechanics get paid hourly which you found out (I wish it was % labor though LOL) but knowing this server, that would just get abused and there are no checks to see if they are properly towing and no way to find out who is lying unless every single impound was documented on the mechanic's side. I can just see this going extremely south due to a bunch of factors like miscommunication, and people just impounding to get extra money no matter the cost because you can tow from anywhere. Honestly, it is so much better to see cars on the road so long as they are parked up normally because we have zero NPCs driving around it just gives more to look at. Also if they just get free rain to impound illegally parked cars, what stops them from accidentally taking NPC cars meant for chopping because they spawn illegally parked on the sides of roads most of the time? If properly implemented with checks and balanced I could see it being interesting, or if there was a public works job created with scripted tows, such as if BurgerShot got scripted deliveries they could do to homes. Though to just allow it I can just see it not working well.

+1 let people focus on RP rather than money dump on being able to change clothes without having to grind ages to get a full closet.

+1 to the cutting open cash -1 gutting, switchblades wouldn't be good for harvesting meats

+1 it just makes sense. Keep the trunk bodies though because sometimes you need to hide a body from plain view!

-1

Massive +1 A lot of other servers have fight clubs and this value adjusted in general it takes a long time to fist fight to get injured. This would help people fend for themselves and have a chance of getting away which would overall improve RP storylines because people can retaliate later instead of having a 20-second fight and getting killed because everyone is obsessed with that. The 3-4 fight clubs that exist would actually have things to fight about and it would be more entertaining than stomping someone out of rag dolls down for 3 punches. Prison could actually not be as shitty and you have a fighting chance if someone jumps you without you seeing anything @Osvaldon do you have any thoughts about this one being looked at if you end up doing some more gun balancing with this new update?

+1 Rain shouldn't make it totally clean as some things you definitely need to scrub to clean off, though you could set it to like 30-40% clean so it doesn't look completely muddy after it has just rained for 20-30 minutes. It could just be a simple value change to were if it is raining and the car hasn't been parked for x amount of time it slowly cleans off the vehicle down to a certain % while still being a little dirty. vehicle.setDirtLevel(dirtLevel);

good thing it has no value, so people only would use it for good! It is already in the game if people really wanted they could weaponize already so what matters if it they can see what good things people say about them?

Alrighty no one is saying that Civilian RP is DEAD... OP missed the mark with that one but you can still improve things and it is slacking as it always has been for those saying "oh in 2018-19". Obviously, the server was MUCH more cops vs crim back when the server was new. I only started playing 2020(?) but that was with The Council running everyone's pockets and there was zero support for businesses, the scripts were slowly improving over time, there wasn't a government branch we just had commissioners that were head admins. We at least have some sort of government branch now though the governors are still all head admins, maybe we eventually get appointed governors through elections and such with term limits so we don't have the same officials (for any government funded business tbh) for years on end. Maybe that will help things change and new ideas get pushed through the chain. What the government branch has turned into is pretty epic. There was a bit of script change with the SAAA which only applies to a very tiny part of the community that plays ECRP. I really do like the idea but it is so gate kept by the prices. Government funded jobs have pretty much stayed the same since I joined the server except for like DCC getting a phone app instead of a command to call them. I can't really recall anything new being added to them for as long as I've been on the server. There are plenty of suggestions on the forums for improved scripts or even RP that could be implemented for these jobs. Though a lot of the Government funded jobs have taken the initiative to add more RP divisions and that is cool to see. DCC now has an internal mechanic branch to help fix taxis and they are trained by Bayview. MD has a bunch of divisions such as lifeguard, forensics, AMU (surgery), and of plenty others. I am sure PD/SD have their RP branches I just haven't been in those factions long enough. Freelance jobs just haven't been touched except with the addition of BurgerShot and I think the bus job just got a fix? I don't know if the coroner's job is still broken but that job was dead faster than the bodies were dropping, making people stay at calls for them to arrive was the biggest flaw so no one called and very few people worked. All those scripts are the exact same except now mostly all of them have the little minigame instead of timers. Business RP has improved a lot because people are now allowed to get properties, that is the only script support that has ever been implemented. I am not sure when business properties even first got implemented but I have seen plenty of clubs and restaurants open and close within a few months. People try and try and sure maybe most of the community just isn't interested in hanging out and a club or one night or doing some extra RP to support a restaurant or whatever the business might be week in and week out. Sure it is up to the business owners to advertise and make their place unique. All we are asking is the ability to have more uniqueness, if it isn't possible with Rage just let us know so we stop asking. I am assuming it is very possible considering its just different images. Its the same cycle of a new business it opens a few times then slowly fizzles out. With script support (not codependency as made very obvious by the various attempts by a ton of different people to open businesses) it would make businesses more unique and be able to offer something that isn't a raffle for people to take home as I said in my last point. the entire server is built off of assets and the community makes that more of an issue. very true, god forbid a bunch of people want to fish and socialize. That and they just change the rules around social hubs to make people spend more money or get tickets. Parking Pay at the bank originally so you couldn't hang there without cops towing your vehicles or paying $100 a minute or something. Then pier parking pay which resulted in the same thing. Thankfully I think the parking meters have been removed. Maybe pier will become a hub for socializing again because of that. W business and W mindset, though how sick would it be if you could have custom pictures like "Jamestown Jerky" or whatever else you could think of! There are definitely people who are 100% down to grind and try to make a business succeed with the current tools. No one is taking away the hard work people like Brit, VeX, and a few others have put in to make businesses work that aren't the normal scripted business very few people will ever get their hands on. The Devs have been putting in a lot of good work and no one is saying the updates aren't fun to play with and enjoy, but civilian just needs some work, the clothing update has been delayed twice for the drug update and the gun update im pretty sure, only one of which has been implemented so far. If businesses were more unique with items they could sell this would benefit everyone, not even just the "civilian" players. people like VeX and OTF and their meat market could thrive and help improve the crim RP by providing a legal front to a business that isn't just a night club with a cover charge. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Never forget

I wouldn't necessarily say that Civilian RP is dead, Gov seems to be doing decent, government funded jobs are doing pretty good for the most part. I think what you are getting at is Business RP is struggling. The biggest fix would to make an easier way for businesses to get access to the treasury options of an F4 menu. I can only speak from my experience trying to open up a mechanic shop, the only way to get that treasury is by getting official. As a business you don't gain any functionality from an F4 menu unlike criminal factions with imports, NPCs, Turfs or government funded factions with badges. Getting an *business* (legal) F4 should be something your business can apply to get after a month or two so long as your business is active, having openings etc. If everyone is so worried about F4 chat being abused I'm sure you could find a work around, whether it be changing the script to include a setting to toggle it until you get official or something. Allow those business F4's to use badges like other legal jobs so you can promote your business since it is already implemented. The treasury is also very nice and already in the game. If you want to implement something via the script, what others have said above about maybe an "item creator" such as custom imports of different foods / drinks with different images instead of the default burger, we don't need custom models, I mean fish are still the french fry model in game. Instead of giving a business the option to item print, make a new department such as Department of Commerce and Labor, that would essentially import items that businesses would have to buy. RP the cost of importing them from x Company, then they can sell those food/drink items for whatever profit they see fit. Obviously not all businesses are going to have food and drink as the main item, however it would be a good basis to start because 80% of businesses are based on being Nightclubs, bars, restaurants, or something to deal with selling food/water. Say for example I open up a UFC type thing, I could go out to these businesses and get unique food that isn't just burgers and water, which ultimately expands all the RP for all businesses involved. If the "item creator" works by something like /import "Name" "Qty" "Type(food/water/item)" "Img Link" then you could make food, drinks, or items that do nothing, such as collectables, or business specific items. For example mechanic shops could sell little air fresheners you put in the glovebox, a fight club could print a belt/trophy they could hold on to. It would have no functionality except for a name and image for your inventory. (I am at work so hopefully this sorta makes sense I didn't put too much thought in to it, more just what would be cool to see on the server)

-1 for script implementation, but you can still try to RP that and go about it that way. I've had people pickpocket MD keys before so you can sorta do whatever

weird to put this as the only example LMAO

Simple put the good RP in the panel and put bad RP as a number

This would be sick once/if the hunting script was changed and there was some variation introduced. The current hunting script is already so buggy that should be the first priority. However once that is fixed, 110% agree with the idea.

+1 make a wallet general stores can sell that have an inventory that only allow licenses, go to city hall to collect your licenses, but the licenses can still be approved by the respective parties ( BLS - MD, Gun License - PD, Pilots - SAAA, etc)

I think this would be a neat way to have IC business websites without having to make a google site (which is easy but then you have to "trust" whoever is making it not to put shitty things and can't really be moderated) and if you really want to make the site good spend $12 on a domain a year which again isn't a lot but not everyone has money to spend. People can use the formatting and insert pictures, sort of like how gangs/businesses to forum posts, but this could help advertise. Also Weazel could have a business ads section on there site that link directly to the ECRP forums which would be more secure than some random site.

Well, if you go that far with getting this script implemented, might as well upgrade the mechanic scripts to use metal so they can create upgrades and install them to vehicles!

Besides the fact you cut him off, all NPC cars are automatically stolen in the MDC so if they run a plate they know its stolen.