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  1. To be honest, I've been in the PD Faction for over a year and have never stacked charges like this, nor have I directly witnessed it. Whilst legally officers are allowed to charge you like that (if you'd shoot at multiple), it really doesn't happen. At least, I've never seen it being done. BUT, this is a roleplay server, actions have consequences. Criminals having the mindset of "Let me kill a few cops and then AFK 2 hours in prison" isn't the greatest either heh... But perhaps this is something we can discuss internally if this really is an issue. (Which I doubt.)
  2. How can you explain you were continuously playing music throughout the radio to your friends (which I assume is in-game) but when we get close enough to you in front of the parking lot, your ID does not colour orange, indicating you are using the radio at all? As you can see in the video, all you were doing was running away from me, which means that if I would go to type everything out, by the time I press ENTER, you're long gone already. At no point did you inform us you were unable to hear us prior to the arrest, although we were literally next to you and you had guns drawn at you. Which, due to the close range, is visible in third person. After the arrest, I tried to type out all communication with you to make sure you would see/notice my roleplay. This is simply because I play on this server for roleplay. I am not up to debate every arrest in /b. When I told you to respond to my RP you said: "I won't until you tell me what is happening." (2:34 in the video) indicating you are attempting to force pause RP. At no point whatsoever do I have to OOC'ly explain my IC arrest to you. You mention you know you were driving recklessly because of your vehicle damage, yet you claim OOCly that you have no idea why we're arresting you. Perhaps we would have taken the time to explain this to you after you roleplayed with us. Often times after roleplay I take the time to explain or have a quick chat in OOC with the suspect, if they've been nothing but nice. But when you clearly refuse to roleplay until I explain my IC actions to you, I have no will to discuss this. I still fail to believe this but would appreciate you backing this up with your video footage. Whether or not you were listening to loud music should not be a reason for me not to arrest you or explain myself in OOC. If you don't see my cruiser behind you with lights and sirens, that's on you, not on me. I'm glad you do understand how all this could've been avoided and I tried to warn you prior to making this forums report. At the end of the day, I don't get my joy debating server rules in a forum report. I have other things to do during my day and I'm sure you do too. My advice: When you're playing on the server and cops are arresting you for (according to you) little to no reason, there is an Internal Affairs division in the Police Department which specializes in investigating such incidents and possibly discipline those Officers if needed. Arguing an arrest in OOC will never work out for you. If anything, it will annoy the cop since we're here purely for roleplay, not for OOC arguments. Giving us fun and quality roleplay often even results in fewer charges being applied, and with this new update that's something you should definitely keep in mind. I hope you understand where I'm coming from. (In case you'd want to find out more about this Internal Affairs division -> https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3259 - This is where you can argue charges/arrests.)
  3. Player(s) being reported: Alan Stream Date of interaction reported: 30/JUN/2019 Unix timestamp from HUD: 1561881993 Your characters name: Mike Adams Other player(s) involved: Steve Martinez - Daphne Rivers Specific rule(s) broken: 7. IC and OOC Interactions Players are required to remain in-character (IC) at all times. Text chat, VOIP, radio, phone, and commands like /ME and /do are to be used only for IC content. IC content must not contain acronyms like “lol” or “u” or smiley faces excluding IC SMS. For OOC content, players must use chat commands that encase the content in brackets. For example: (( this is OOC content )). OOC chat commands are /OOC, /O, /B, /PM and /F. OOC videos or screenshots can be used as IC evidence only if the footage contains the character using the /RECORD command to hold a phone in their hand. Property interiors can have cameras only if the owner roleplays installation and takes time-stamped screenshots with the camera angle as evidence. Exteriors only if there is an object. You may roleplay a hidden camera, wire, or dash cam in a vehicle if recordings are unedited and include roleplay starting and ending. Attempts to search must be answered truthfully in /do. Sexual, torture or extremely gross roleplay is allowed only if all involved parties (participants and witnesses) have agreed to it in OOC text chat, prior to the actual roleplay being performed. Only administrators are allowed force pause RP or investigate rule breaches. Only administrators are allowed to void roleplay scenarios at their discretion. Players are welcome to voice their opinion but should never disobey administrators. A /REPORT does not pause roleplay unless an admin does so. How did the player break the rule(s)? As this player was driving erratically because of his vehicle damage, we attempted to pull him over. When we were close to his vehicle, he spun out right in front of us a few times, giving him no excuse not to have seen a cruiser behind him. He then casually parked his vehicle in the parking lot and I ordered him to get down on his knees. After this, he begins to walk around as if nothing is happening, blasting music through his microphone. Whilst walking around you can clearly see Officers pointing weapons at him and him walking in their direction, again, not giving him the excuse of not seeing us there. As he fails to comply with our demands, we decided to deploy our taser to stop this man. Now as I am attempting to roleplay with this player and cuff him, he begins to type in OOC and clearly states he will refuse to answer any of my roleplay until I explained an IC issue to him, via OOC ways. I have tried to inform this player that he is not in the position to pause roleplay and I warned him that if he would keep refusing to respond to any of my roleplay, a report would be created. Our IC reasons for arrest were: Erratic driving, failure to pull over (felony evading) and multiple counts of Reckless Operation. Evidence of rule breach:
  4. MrSix

    Can Delete

    I just want to add that we do take your pocket money but don't keep it for ourselves. We have paperwork to file mentioning how much money we took from you and then that money gets donated to our Media Relations division, which they then use to organize public events. If a cop is secretly keeping your money, they're breaking policies.
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    Mike Adams - Metagame

    Stop making false assumptions. I did only charge you. We were in TAC, three different people said "The passenger is Harm" and then one other person said " I know the drivers it's (i don't remember the name) I don't know why you're now complaining about your arrest. I wasn't even involved with that. Just go and make a third report, keep the streak going. Charging someone with a mask isn't metagaming? How do you even get to that? Metagaming is when you use OOC information IC'ly. You wearing a mask isn't OOC at all? That's such a weird statement that you make. Personally, I am done replying to your reports. I have said enough for the admin team to decide whether or not I metagamed.
  6. MrSix

    Mike Adams - Metagame

    Make an Internal Affairs report. IC issue.
  7. MrSix

    Mike Adams - Metagame

    Oh boy. I’ll try again. No. The LSPD can NOT charge you with what they want. But that is an IC ISSUE which is resolved with Internal Affairs. Not a forum report. You claimed earlier that nothing happens with IA reports just because you once made one and it wasn’t accepted. I can promise you, if you IA report me it’ll be investigated. Your charges weren’t metagamed. I’m glad the cops actually did continue roleplay and arrested you. As they should’ve by protocol.
  8. MrSix

    ID 34 Non Role Play

    I already said it was wrong to drive the super car to the mountain. Yes we broke that rule and yes it was poor for you to drive like that as well. It was in general not a good Roleplay situation. If you see videos of people driving off when BLOCKED IN by police and guns aimed at them, yes that’s FearRP. We just don’t report each incident like I didn’t report yours. Most of us just want to play the game instead of these forum discussions. That’s why.
  9. MrSix

    Mike Adams - Metagame

    No... someone can’t be impersonating you with your exact looks and voice saying “hey I’m Harm I’m the ex cop”... Whichever charge you got is YET AGAIN an IC issue. You’re still arguing IC issues in an OOC report. Make an Internal Affairs report for that. As you should also have been thought. An admin posting your charges here has absolutely nothing to do with you claiming metagaming. There’s absolutely no proof provided by you that I would’ve metagamed your ID. In fact I don’t even pay attention to that and I never even opened my MDC whilst you were next to me to check who you were...
  10. MrSix

    Mike Adams - Metagame

    Hello Didn't metagame. Never put your ID in the MDC to see who you were. I don't support that kind of rule breach. You identified yourself when I said your name and you replied to it. I IC'ly know you're gang affiliated, I know it was you in the car by voice and I set charges. Worst case scenario I would've set charges on an innocent person and that goes through IA if that would be the case. At no point did I mix OOC with IC, at no point did I use OOC information as an IC advantage, all my decisions were made 100% IC'ly. On top of that, you spoke to me mentioning how you used to be a cop. What are you trying to achieve here man? Metagaming wasn't present here at all. I really have nothing else to add to this...
  11. MrSix

    ID 34 Non Role Play

    Here you are making a complaint about what is IC on an OOC forum report. If you have issues with how police handled the scene you should know, as a former cop, that Internal Affairs is where to discuss this and not here. You were not driving, correct. Did you get out of the vehicle whilst demanded to do so with firearms pointed at you? No. That is what FearRP means. If you got nothing to hide, as you seem to think, why refuse to upload the full footage? Just go ahead and prove me wrong here instead of making IC complaints. I would also like to just make some common sense here. Off-road does not equal mountain climbing. Off-road equals grass terrain, dirt, sand, ... anything that isn't asphalt. Mountain climbing is completely another thing than offroading. I thought you'd at least know that... Please: Furthermore please see the struggles that your kind of off-roading brings to off-road vehicles, and you'll understand why speeding up a mountain makes 0 sense from you guys.
  12. MrSix

    ID 34 Non Role Play

    Hey Harm You're not wrong when saying it's not right to use an 811 to drive off-road so I'm not going to argue that at all. However, it is not necessarily realistic from yourself to take an SUV and start climbing mountains driving over 100 km/h. If you're here to argue realism I just would like to bring up the point that mountains aren't climbed by vehicles. And when vehicles actually do climb a mountain, that's at 10 km/h or less. Besides, you were continuously trying to get PD's attention at a scene by driving onto mountains next to the scene, doing silly stuff. Which I could easily argue was cop-baiting. And then we're not talking about the FearRP from when you were boxed in, had an SMG to your head but still thought it'd be a good idea to wiggle your car free to drive off like a maniac. I didn't clip my recording from the cop-baiting or FearRP part and conveniently enough you did not share this in the report either. Which I find unfortunate. I think it's only fair that you go ahead and upload the entire scene of events so that we're not editing it like we're the only ones doing something incorrectly here. I would like that the administrator taking this report also requests Harm to upload the entire footage. Cop Baiting - Provoking a reaction from emergency services without a realistic reason. Fear roleplay is the concept of roleplaying fear for your character’s safety and life.
  13. As I told you. By the server rules, you're dead when script kills you. When you're down you're just injured. You can't force DeathRP
  14. I'll keep this short. On the scene, we tried to explain to you how by the server rules, you're dead when script kills you. NOT when you're injured. DeathRP is something that cops occasionally grant to suspects or civilians as a reward for good roleplay. Your complaints and attempts to pause our roleplay are what stopped you from being granted permission. I'm not saying we don't look at your kind of injuries. Of course, that will affect whether or not we'll allow it. But when you show no effort into roleplay, most of the time you'll get a no from us.
  15. Hey Lewis I haven't said he did fire at us anywhere in my explanation. DM'ing is about killing someone whilst you have no RP reason to do so. The rule is not just about him shooting at me. I was over radio informed that this vehicle has run over an officer and was ordered to shoot it. So we did, a lot of us did. Did he run an Officer over? No, but is there any way my character could've known that? No. My character was told to disable the vehicle and shoot the driver by the other Officers on the scene and so he did. It was literally impossible for my character to first investigate whether or not the driver actually did hit an Officer. We were continuously suppressed with gunfire and practically anyone on the scene who was not leaving and was not a Police Officer was at this point a threat. Again I'd like to bring up the point that innocent people who don't want to get shot would NEVER park in between the gunfire like that. It's poor RP to do so in my opinion. You're basically not playing FearRP just because you OOC'ly think "If I get shot here, I can say it's DM so I won't have to value my life." Any healthy human being would run for their lives in a situation like this. Not park in the middle and spectate. The shooting part is blatantly an IC mistake. I think it's poor to immediately throw DM at this. My character did IC'ly have reason to shoot but you're looking at this far too black and white. Whilst I get your vision on "in the video he didn't attack you so you can't kill him" I think the scene of events matters a whole lot more.
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