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The Los Santos Police Department was reformed in May 2017 to what it is today, and it has since then, strived to provide the community with realistic role-play. The Los Santos Police Department adapts our structure and standard operating procedures to real-world policing in the United States, with a specific focus on the Los Angeles Police Department. The fundamentals of the faction are to have strict In-Character as well as Out-of-Character policies, regulations, and procedures, as we believe that it is the core to ensure that we can provide the community with the best realistic police role-play. This faction thread is Out of Character and information on this thread may not be used for In Character purposes. This is purely to introduce you to the Los Santos Police Department and give you a more in-depth view of our core principles, the structure as well as the role-play that we provide to the community. Government Homepage News Releases & Public Announcements Recruitment & Employment Office Internal Affairs Division - Information City of Los Santos Penal Code 2019 To Protect and Serve - The official motto of the Los Santos Police Department came into effect in 1955, it was submitted as an entry by LSPD Officer Jim Stirling into the Department's official contest to come up with a Department slogan. The motto received a tremendous amount of support from employees of the Department as well as from officials outside of the Department. The slogan stands for the core values and principles of a Law Enforcement Officer, "To Protect" to protect persons, "To serve" to serve the community and its persons with utmost dignity, upholding the oath of service. In 2018, the Department held an internal vote on whether the motto should change to "C.P.R" which stands for Courtesy, Professional & Respect, however, it did not receive sufficient support and thus it became our community values instead. It is the mission of the Los Santos Police Department to safeguard the lives and property of the people we serve, to reduce the incidence and fear of crime, and to enhance public safety while working with the diverse communities to improve their quality of life. Our mandate is to do so with honor and integrity, while at all times conducting ourselves with the highest ethical standards to maintain public confidence. Service to Community - We are here to serve the people of Los Santos. Reverence for the Law - Honor of duty obeying and respecting all laws. Commitment to Leadership - Striving to motivate and set a good example. Integrity in word and action - Truthfulness and transparency. Respect for individuals - Aiming to improve the quality of life for all citizens. Continuous Improvement - Constant review and progression of standards. Courtesy, Professionalism & Respect, or C.P.R, are the key values that every officer in the department must uphold. The Department is to Protect the rights of all persons of Los Santos to be free from criminal attack, to be secure in their possessions, and to live in peace. The Department serves the people of Los Santos by performing the law enforcement function in a professional manner and following our Community Values. During the San Andreas Gold Rush, the State of San Andreas was guarded by its County Sheriff and multiple militias that was created to aid the already existing County Sheriff. It wasn't until 1869 when the first paid police force created, to what we today know, as the Los Santos Police Department. The force started with six paid Police Officers that served under City Marshal Jackson White, however, White was shot by one of his deputies in 1870 and was soon replaced by John F. Smith, by the newly created Board of Commissioners. Smith's succession as the City Marshal lasted only a year, as he was replaced by a saloon owner, William Harris. During the years of 1876 to 1889, the Police Force had fifteen different police chiefs. The Los Santos Police Department did not provide its officers with official training until 1916 when the first police training was introduced. This is the police training that has been the fundamentals to what we know as today and is the reason why the Los Santos Police Department is one of the largest and statistics driven Police Department. Chief Gas Ketse was appointed Chief of Police on January 21, 2017, but soon found himself replaced by Chief Sebastian Freeman in May 2017. Chief Sebastian Freeman and his staff began the reform of the Los Santos Police Department shortly afterward, successfully managing to re-create the entire structure of the Los Santos Police Department, Bureaus and Divisions within. After a successful reform of the entire department, with the help of his staff, Chief Freeman was appointed to become one of the city's first Government Commissioners in July 2017, and his successor, Chief Ramon Carter took over reigns in the Los Santos Police Department. Chief Ramon Carter followed the path of his predecessor and continued to improve and push the Department to strive further success and improvements. Chief Carter, just like his predecessor, was appointed the second Government Commissioner on September 19th, 2017. His successor, Chief Samuel Osborn, was appointed Chief of Police the same day. Chief Osborn's reign only lasted until October 20th, when he stepped down and allowed his successor, Chief Katherine Taylor to take reigns of the Los Santos Police Department. Chief Taylor was the longest serving Chief of Police of the Los Santos Police Department, she was appointed Chief of Police on October 27th, 2017 until she stepped down on September 28th, 2018 and assumed a new role in the Los Santos Police Department. During Chief Taylor's reign, she pushed for further success and improvements in the Departments and to further strengthen the relations between the community and the Police Force. Chief Taylor and her staff pushed for the Department's second-biggest structural revamp on July 21st, 2018, and that's when the Department expanded the previous 5 Bureaus, to 7 Bureaus divided into 3 Offices. Chief Osborn was re-appointed and sworn in as the Chief of Police on September 28th, 2018. After spending a further 10 months as the LSPD Chief of Police, on July 10th 2019, Chief Osborn retired. The LSPD Assistant Chief, Mick Reefer, was appointed as the new Chief of Police on July 21st 2019. POLICE ADMINISTRATORS Government Commissioner Ramon Carter Government Commissioner Sebastian Freeman HIGH COMMAND STAFF Chief of Police Mick Reefer Assistant Chief of Police Vacant - Chief of Staff Deputy Chief of Police Alex Donnelly - Director, Office of Operations Deputy Chief of Police Elena Blake - Director, Office of Investigations Deputy Chief of Police Marco Davis - Director, Office of Special Operations Deputy Chief of Police Ashley York - Director, Office of Support Service Commander Jay Bacon - Central Area Bureau Coordinator COMMAND STAFF Lieutenant Enzo Bozzuto Lieutenant Cynthia Shelby Lieutenant Daniels Shelby Lieutenant Mike Adams CHIEF OF POLICE Mick Reefer History/Biography Mick Reefer was born July 15th, 1973 in the United Kindom in a place called Dagenham in east London. In 1980 at the age of 7, he moved over to Los Santos with his family where they applied for citizenship to become permanent residents. He attended & graduated from Los Santos High School in 1990, and continued his education at the University of Los Santos where he obtained a Bachelor of Science in Administration. Mick is divorced and has 3 children who live in Liberty City Mick currently resides in West Vinewood. Having begun his career in the Liberty City Police Department, Mick transferred to the Los Santos Police Department on June 7th, 2017. He worked a variety of precincts within the General Operations Bureau as a police officer, which included Rampart Precinct, 77th Precinct, and Vinewood Precinct. His assignments included frank patrol detail, patrol officer, field training officer, and recruitment officer. After a period of time with the General Operations Bureau, he applied for and was accepted into the Investigations Bureau, where he started off as an Investigator and was eventually promoted to Detective after successful completion of the Detective Training Program. Here he worked a variety of different cases from smaller theft crimes all the way up to major gang-related activity within the Detective Support and Vice Division as well as the Gang and Narcotics Division. On November 12th, 2017, Micky was promoted to Sergeant II where he left the Investigations Bureau and moved back to the General Operations Bureau to focus on working with the Recruitment and Employment Division within the Los Santos Police Department. He also applied and became a part of the Air Support Division as an X-Ray unit, flying the LSPD Maverick Helicopter. On the 5th December 2017, he was promoted to Lieutenant and became a member of the Command Division in the General Operations Bureau where he also took a temporary role as the Vinewood Precinct Watch Commander. His role was to monitor and evaluate all the officers and patrol sergeants within that precinct. He was promoted to Captain on February 28th, 2018 and appointed as the Recruitment and Human Resources Commanding Officer, which is part of the Administrative Services Bureau within the Office of Support Services. His role here was to work on all of the recruitment process involving new applicants within the department as well as the internal side of the administration which involved officer promotions, demotions, suspensions, discharges and all the paperwork which came along with it. On the 4th August 2018, he was promoted to the rank of Police Commander and became a member of the department High Command. He is currently the Administrative Services Bureau Coordinator where he oversees everything involving the Recruitment, Employment, and Administration within the Los Santos Police Department. Mick also works closely with the Police Training Bureau to ensure a smooth transition for new applicants to move onto their Police Academy training. After spending 5 months as a Police Commander and the Administrative Services Bureau Coordinator, due to Deputy Chief Crosby's retirement, Mick was promoted to the rank of Deputy Chief of Police and appointed as Director of the Office of Support Services in Chief Crosby's stead. This meant extra responsibility as now he was not only the head of the Administrative Services Bureau, but he was also given the task of fully overseeing the Police Training Bureau. This consisted of both the Basic Training Division and the Advanced Training Division. ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE Vacant Chief of Staff History/Biography Vacant DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE Alex Donnelly Director, Office of Operations History/Biography DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE Elena Blake Director, Office of Investigations History/Biography Elena Blake, twin sister to Riley Blake, is a police veteran currently serving as a Police Commander for the Los Santos Police Department, acting as the Bureau Coordinator for the Investigations Bureau, being the person responsible for the activities of the Detectives in the department, as well as the person responsible for the training of new Detectives, as the Director of the Detective Training Program. Elena Blake was born to Mark and Claire Blake on the 12th of December, 1990 in a small town in the United Kingdom. After attending and graduating from the University of Leeds, where she obtained a Bachelor degree in Criminal Justice and Criminology, she started her career at a local police department as a Detective Constable. At the age of 27, she had climbed through the ranks and reached the position of Detective Inspector as a member of the Major Crime Section, a section that investigates serious and violent crimes including homicide, attempted murder, life-threatening assaults, abduction, and extortions, within the Criminal Investigation Division of the department she was serving at. May 2018, Elena was offered a position as a Police Lieutenant within the Los Santos Police Department, as well as the position of Assistant Bureau Coordinator of the Investigations Bureau. After sitting down with her sister and discussing this, Elena and Riley decided to move to Los Santos, where they applied for citizenship and became permanent residents of the state of San Andreas in the United States. June 2018, she officially transferred in as a Police Lieutenant and began to run the Investigations Bureau together with Captain Travis McGregor, someone who she worked closely together with. Her job responsibility was to work together with Captain McGregor to ensure that the Investigations Bureau was run smoothly. In the month of July 2018, Elena was promoted to Police Captain. Still working together with Captain McGregor, she also took on the role as the Commanding Officer of the Detective Support and Vice Division. Then, on the 4th of August 2018, after the departing of Captain McGregor following his resignation, Elena was promoted to the rank of Police Commander, a prestigious position in the department as a member of the High Command team. She also assumed the position of Bureau Coordinator of the Investigations Bureau and the Head of the Detective Training Program. Finally, on the 29th of December 2018, she was called into a meeting room with the Chief of Police Samuel Osborn. Here, after asking every Commander how their designated bureaus were running, he opened a briefcase and revealed three badges and certificates. Elena was then offered the position of Deputy Chief of Police as the Director of the Office of Investigations - a newly opened office, warranted by the success of the Investigations Bureau after she was appointed Coordinator. She took the position without hesitating and was officially promoted to Deputy Chief of Police as a Chief in the Office of the Chief. She then went on to continue running the Investigations Bureau, as well to run and make changes to her respective Office. She went on to perform her duties as a Deputy Chief of Police, swore in dozens of Cadets to the force and attempted to make a good impression on officers and civilians alike. Everything seemed to be going well until the early morning of the 21st of January came around. In the middle of the night, she was woken up by an e-mail notification on her mobile phone with the subject "Position Transfer". This e-mail summarized that the cost for the position of Director, Office of Investigations was too high and the funding no longer allowed for her to continue serving as a Deputy Chief. She then, once again, took up the position as Police Captain and the coordinator of the Investigations Bureau. For about three months she continued to stay loyal to the Los Santos Police Department, continuing her efforts in running the bureau smoothly and leading it to a bright future, despite the major setback in her career. It ended up paying off - on the 17th of April 2019, she was promoted back to the position of Police Commander and welcomed back into the High Command team of the Los Santos Police Department, continuing to act as the Bureau Coordinator for the Investigations Bureau. DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE Marco Dinkley Director, Office of Special Operations History/Biography WIP DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE Ashley York Director, Office of Support Services History/Biography Ashley York, was born on the 28th of February 1989 in a small town in upstate San Andreas. Her single mother was an officer in that small town, but shortly after her sister was born four years later, her family moved to San Fierro, where her mother was offered a new job as Sergeant in the San Fierro Police Department. Always being keen to learn everything she could, she found herself wanting to follow her mother's footsteps. As money had always been an issue growing up, she knew the only way she could put herself through any higher education, she'd have to start at the bottom and apply to the San Fierro Police Academy in Calton Heights. As hoping she would, she was able to pass the academy with honors and began working for the San Fierro Police Department. Some years later while she was beginning her training as a Sergeant, she decided to pursue a degree as now money wasn't so hard to come by. After four years of university getting her Bachelors in Criminal Justice, and becoming a sergeant in the process, she felt more motivated than ever. As time passed she continued to rise through the ranks in the San Fierro Police Department, she eventually found herself as the Commander of their General Operations Bureau. As she has always been willing to move up in rank, she was offered a job with the Los Santos Police Department as their newest Deputy Chief, and Director of the Office of Operations. COMMANDER Jay Bacon Central Area Bureau Coordinator History/Biography WIP ORGANISATIONAL CHART WIP 1. OFFICE OF OPERATIONS Supervisor Patrol Division / SPD The Supervisor Patrol Division consists of supervisors of all of Office of Operations and its CO is responsible to oversee the supervisory team and every-day operations pertaining to their field. Sergeant Training Program / STP The Sergeant Training Program aims to educate, motivate and evaluate officers in becoming supervisors of the Los Santos Police Department. Field Training Program / FTP The Field Training Program aims to educate, motivate and evaluate Police Cadets after their academy, in becoming Police Officers. It's a 5-step program that Police Cadets are expected to complete within 30-days of graduating the Academy. CENTRAL BUREAU Mission Row Precinct Mission Row Precinct covers the east-central and south-eastern parts of Los Santos, responsible for providing the community with excellent policing. Vinewood Precinct Vinewood Precinct covers the north-eastern and northern parts of Los Santos, responsible for providing the community with excellent policing. WEST BUREAU Vespucci Precinct Vespucci Precinct covers the north-western, western and south-western parts of Los Santos, responsible for providing the community with excellent policing. Rockford Precinct Rockford Precinct covers the west-central and north-central parts of Los Santos, responsible for providing the community with excellent policing. 2. OFFICE OF INVESTIGATIONS INVESTIGATIONS BUREAU (IB) Detective Support & VICE Division / DVSD Detective Support & VICE is responsible over police investigators and their responsibilities, as well as to investigate and unfold organized crime in the City of Los Santos. Robbery & Homicide Division / RHD Robbery & Homicide is responsible to investigate claims and reports revolving around criminal charges pertaining to attack and physical crimes against persons. Gangs & Narcotics Division / GND Gangs & Narcotics is responsible to investigate claims and reports revolving around criminal charges pertaining to gang-related crime and narcotics. 3. OFFICE OF SPECIAL OPERATIONS SPECIAL OPERATIONS BUREAU (SOP) Special Weapons & Tactics Division / SWAT The purpose of the Los Santos Police Department’s Special Weapons and Tactics division is to serve as the primary tactical response force for the department including situational management of hostage situations, high-risk warrant capture, riot control, and suppression and special circumstances that require a higher level of police security. Air Support Division / ASD The Air Support Division's goal is to provide the Los Santos Police Department and its employees with an aerial overview of incidents which is vital to the success of any incident. They also work hand-in-hand with the Medical Department in search & rescue missions. Traffic Enforcement Division / TED The Traffic Enforcement Division is officers specialized in traffic enforcement in form of traffic operations, statistics-driven enforcement. The main goal is to educate the general public about the importance of safe driving. 4. OFFICE OF SUPPORT SERVICES ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES BUREAU (ASD) Recruitment and Employment Division / RED Recruitment and Employment Division is responsible for the recruitment process and intake of students for the Police Academies. They manage recruitment drives, applications, interviews, background checks, and fitness checks. Human Resources Division / HRD The Human Resources Division manages operational paperwork for the entire department, such as personnel file, shift hours documents, and amendments to positions such as demotions and promotions. They also handle permissions on our Government Website for employees. Firearms and Licensing Division / FLD The Firearms and Licensing Division is responsible for firearms permits. They manage regulations, applications, removals, suspensions and anything pertaining to firearms permits. POLICE TRAINING BUREAU (PTB) Basic Training Division / BTD The Basic Training Division is responsible over police academies and its student, they provide students with introductory training and make them ready to become Police Cadets. Advanced Training Division / ATD The Advanced Training Division is responsible for further enhanced training for employees of the Department. They handle special certification programs and hold training courses for employees (pursuant to rank authority). Most commonly, the Advanced Training Division is responsible over the Department's High-Speed certification program, as well as the Department's firearms certification programs. 5. OFFICE OF THE CHIEF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS BUREAU (PSB) Internal Affairs Division / IAD The Internal Affairs Division investigates incidents and possible suspicions of lawbreaking and professional misconduct attributed to Officers. The sole purpose of Internal Affairs is to investigate claims and reports and find out what truly happened. Internal Affairs is the backbone of the department's integrity. Media Relations Division / MRD The Media Relations Division (Previously, Public Relations) is responsible over Media and Community Affairs, with the purpose to enhance the image of the department and to allow the public to get a greater insight of the Department. The Los Santos Police Department's is often looking for new members to fill its rank. When we are, we're looking for those who are interested to adapt into a new environment in the community, and for those who are interested in realistic police-roleplay. What we expect from you is that you're capable of role-playing a story-driven character and that you're capable of developing your character into the Law Enforcement career. We expect our members to be capable of providing the community with fair and realistic role-play, while also aiming to teach and motivate other members of the community into becoming better role-players. The application process takes our on Government Website , within the Recruitment and Employment Division . The Government forums are entirely In Character unless stated otherwise in form of out of character brackets. It's important that you read through individual requirements before you apply, which is listed on the application form itself. Some of the out of character requirements are; ◙ You need to have at least 5,000 character experience - This is because you need some knowledge of the community, its rules and how it generally functions. This is partly due to an In Character reason as well, your character wouldn't sign up and get accepted into a Police Department with zero knowledge of the city. ◙ You need to have a functional microphone and to be able to install and make use of TeamSpeak 3. - The reason why we have TeamSpeak 3 is that we have TACTICAL COMMUNICATIONS CHANNELS which we use for In Character purposes. We intend on switching away from this once the server script supports the ability to switch frequencies with hotkeys. There are STRICT internal regulations revolving around the usage of our TAC channels, some of them being - Our members must press down both their PTT on TeamSpeak and In-Game if they are around other players, there may not be any Out of Character chatter going on within these channels. The TeamSpeak server is also heavily regulated by server administration. ◙ You need to have had a clean admin record for a minimum of 45 days since your last admin punishment. This varies from person to person on how long they need to have been clean, based on record severity. You will need to speak to a Recruitment Division staff member or their superior (see Recruitment Representatives) about your admin record if it's questionable. We also reserve the right to deny people indefinitely depending on how extensive their admin record is. The reason why we enforce this is that we believe in promoting good behavior, and we have high expectations and standards for our members. If you feel that you meet our requirements, you may simply apply. Put effort into your application, run your application through grammar check websites or use Grammarly if you're on Google Chrome. It's important that you do not attempt to plagiarize from other applications, either from our website or third party sources as that may result in a permanent faction ban. Once you've submitted your application to the Los Santos Police Department, one of our members from the Recruitment Division will review it and either deny, accept or put it on pending. If your application gets put on pending, it most likely requires your attention as they'll want you to amend something, if your application gets denied, you are able to re-apply immediately depending on the reason provided, and finally, if your application is accepted, it will be moved to "Pending" and you will move forward to the Interview Stage. The interview is divided into two separate interviews. One takes place In-Game, and is In Character, whereas the other one takes place on TeamSpeak 3 and is Out of Character. The In-Character interview takes place at the Los Santos Police Department unless otherwise mentioned. You will do your In-Character interview at the same time as you do your Out-of-Character interview, one before the other. The In-Character interview also consists of a role-play test to make sure that you're capable of role-playing and using the role-play commands available to you. It's important to note that the In-Character interview is solely text-based, because of the server supporting both VOIP and Text role-play, we expect that our members are capable of both. Before doing your In Character interview, we recommend that you prepare yourself for it, i.e. look up characteristic traits, pick some traits that fit your character and speak about them if asked, have a story written of your character with educational experience, childhood, work experience etcetera as this may be asked during the interview. You should also be prepared to answer rhetorical questions. The Out-of-Character interview takes place at the Los Santos Police Department's TeamSpeak 3 server. You receive instructions and details on how to get this interview done after being accepted. The purpose of the Out-of-Character interview is to check your microphone quality, your ability to speak English (do not let this frighten you, we're very lenient and supportive) and your knowledge of server rules and general role-play terms. If you pass both of your interviews, you will be accepted as an Academy Student. Police Academies is part of your introductory training and evaluation into joining the Los Santos Police Department. The academy is both In Character and Out of Character. It's recommended that you only partake in an academy if you have a free schedule, as depending on the number of participants and other unforeseeable issues, it can take up to 4-hours to complete. If you make it to the academy stage, it's very likely that you'll pass and make it into the Los Santos Police Department. Because at the moment, we have no exam to follow up on the academy. The purpose of the Academy is to introduce you to the Los Santos Police Department and its principles and values. You will get taught and evaluated on the basic but vital procedures and protocols, as well as commands. You will also get to participate and try out certain things during the academy. Academy scheduling is done by our Basic Training Division and they're scheduled and announced based on the number of students and instructors available. It may take some time to get your academy scheduled, but we're always working to make it more efficient and smooth. Do not let the wait time discourage you, it will be rewarding to get past it! After completing the academy, you will have to participate in a mandatory Field Training Program. We expect that you complete the Field Training Program within 30-days of your graduation date, but we are lenient if members are having reasonable issues that have prolonged their Field Training Program. The Field Training Program consists of 5 sessions, 4 of which are training and 1 which is a final evaluation. You are allowed to re-take the evaluation up to 3 times, and if you are unable to pass it on your third time, you will, unfortunately, be dishonourably discharged from the Department. It's very uncommon for someone to fail the final evaluation 3 times, as we provide excellent training to focus on areas that you might be struggling in. It's important that you enter the Police Department with patience, everything takes time in the Police Department, do not charge head on and expect to sit in a patrol car busting criminals on your first day. We have a limited amount of Field Training Officers for the vast amount of Field Training Sessions that are required to be done after each academy. Q: - What does it mean to have a background befitting to become a police officer? A: - Los Santos Police Department is looking for individuals that demonstrate positive personal and professional growth and consistent adherence to the law. Q: - If I have too many tickets or a minor misdemeanour, will I have trouble becoming a police officer? A: - It is to be determined on a case-by-case basis, and it depends on the seriousness of the misdemeanour and on how many and how recently the tickets were issued. The reason for the ticket is also taken into consideration. Q: - How do I go on a police ride along? A: - You must visit our Ride Along Program on the Los Santos Police Department website and fill out a short form to apply for a ride along, which will be reviewed and a decision made by a Los Santos Police Department staff member. Q: - I want to report a crime in the city, where can I do that? A: - You can either call 911, go directly to the city police station at Mission Row and report it at the front desk, or report a crime on our Los Santos Police Department website. Q: - Where can I obtain a firearms permit? A: - You must visit our Firearms & Licensing Division on the Los Santos Police Department website and follow the instructions to apply for a firearms permit. Q: - I want to commend an LSPD officer for the excellent service they provided to me, where can I do that? A: - You can visit our Los Santos Police Department website to commend an officer. Q: - I feel I have been unfairly treated by an LSPD officer, what can I do about that? A: - You can visit our Internal Affairs public section on the Los Santos Police Depatment website and follow the instructions to file a report on the officer(s).

I expected that kind reply as well, you always play the victim.

Hey don't expect to try and slam down our faction with inconsistent facts and expect nothing in return. I wasn't the one who brought a specific faction into it in the first place, I was initially talking about the server wide RP. And yeah well no less mature than talking to someone for over and hour OOC because you were upset with a fully IC indicent. And I was under the impression support staff were meant to keep the two 100% separate unless some sort of OOC rule was broken.

We have multiple officers each month penalised for stuff we accept they did wrong. We have pages and pages of disciplinary action logged. We spend countless hours discussing situations and what action we should take on the officer based on their rule/protocol breaks, and we consistently remind officers on how to conduct themselves. To suggest we do/have nothing to keep them `in check` is ignorant and uninformed. If we are going down the route of basing our entire opinion of factions based on occasional individual incidents (which I don't think is the right way, not to mention these incidents are IC) then you guys and your factions come out worse everytime. And that isn't even an opinion, that's a fact.

Well those who do want to RP smart criminals will generally not even be that affected by this. That, we should agree does work the same as irl. I see your point about the wrong sentences. This is something we will obviously have to step up ourselves, coming down harder on people giving false charges, handling IA reports quicker, even if it means taking on more officers to do so (whatever the solution may end up being). This change won't just make things different for you guys, but the police will have to adapt the right ways for the servers sake as well. This is a big transition that will take some getting used to for everyone, and I have no doubts this won't even be the final solution. It wouldn't surprise me if small tweaks come in as we notice things that don't quite fit.

You would have to be pretty terrible to get anything close to that. Not to mention you would have be doing your criminal activity in front of police each and every time without getting caught, for a huge number of times.

The entire city doesn't make sense compared to the real world though. The characters in this city have mindsets nowhere close to the majority of people that do things in real life. If gangs and criminals irl operated like they do in this city there would be marshall law. There has to be something to help tone it down and bring forward smater, better RP.

Then you get the following scenario Player X gets a reckless driving charge, player X now thinks well fuck it, I'm in trouble for that I'll just drive like I'm in Fast & Furious from now on as any further reckless charges will run concurrently anyway.

That was a bug which has since been resolved. Also anyone who has a load of reckless charges (which they got before the update) that will give them a real over the top amount of time will likely have it considerably reduced this time as one off. But now you all now know how this system works, you have to RP smarter. And drive smarter in the city.

This would need to be consistently operated 24/7 in order for it to effectively work the way you are suggesting. Say you get arrested and nobody from the court system is around? With the amount of arrests that happen each hour, the man power to cover the courts with all the arrests and effectively cover the activity issues would be huge. A) The only way a court system would work is if they are given specfic dates and times that they have to attend court (which due to peoples daily real lives, that's impossible to setup). B) The harder crimes would mean you had remain in police custody until a judge is available and you get your time in court. Which again, just isn't practical.

Be smart and inconspicuous with your criminal acitivty. Don't just go on a rampage because you're at the cap anyway.

Well you could email the Police HR department or any Police Supervisor or above on our website which is just a forum PM. And request a copy of your record. Just attach a screenshot of your /license to show it's actually you and I'm sure there would be no issue in getting the information sent to you. It would need to be done properly and IC though. Unless marked with ((OOC)) brackets all our forum PM's are IC emails. That said, I wouldn't mind people being able to view only their own records at the same place they pay tickets or whatever. As for complaints. They will always be private between the person making the complaint and Internal Affairs. That won't be public.

This doesn't need to become a large scale cops vs criminals OOC stand off with everyone having to justify what they do compared to each other. To use the word abusing so often in here isn't something that's needed either. As that could very easily go both ways with actions from non-pd players. It's already been acknowledged that the barricades being unbreakable, realistically wouldn't be used that way. Regardless of how I feel about criminal RP at times, I still agree with the main post here. We have barriers that can be placed which can also be destroyed, while at the same time slowing the vehicles down but not putting them out of the chase. That is the best solution. Just bare in mind that ramming through these barricades or lines of cops cars that have been setup as blockades, at speeds of 200 kph is also pretty much 'abusing' the fact that GTA cars don't total or damage like real life cars would. Just remember if we acknowledge points & make changes to improve the realistic RP, that does have to work both ways. If we make the effort, others have to make the effort. Otherwise this ridiculous ooc feud never ends.

I actually agree with this. I would like it if barriers could be driven through. That said, while they can't I will speak to Osborn and we can look to ensure that they are only used for setting permiters for stationary scenes. I don't think this has been brought up in much detail so I can't put any blame on the faction members who placed them in the videos. I acknowedge the issue though.

It should just work like an even quieter /low

The body should only be there until the NLR limit expires. So if you go back to an area and your body is still there. You know you shouldn't be there.

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What I had in mind was there is no OOC rule that causes beef to squash after you wake up in hospital. If the gang violence between certain people goes on and on, so be it. Someone either has to CK, arrange some way IC to come to some kind of truce. Whether that is a meeting between both gangs/people to discuss the terms of the truce, whatever. OR they make use of a 'PK' system, explained below. Now the third option and also what they used to do in samp (which is similar to the OOC rule you proposed, but it's IC instead) is a 'PK' system (Player Kill) which is different to a 'CK' (Character Kill). Let's say a gang has someone down on their knees ready to execute them, they call in an admin, mod or even support. The staff member witnesses the execution and if it's RP'd well, then after it's done the staff member initiates a 'PK' command. Now all that does is basically does exactly what the NLR does right now but it's something that the people doing the killing have to request and get approved based on the situation. The PK is a lot softer than a CK in the way that there is no loss of name, items etc. Only a loss of memory for x amount of time leading up to the situation. In short CK = Something you can request yourself to start over, but it comes at a price. PK = Something others request to put on you. Only price being you forget everything up to that moment like the NLR. Now some might ask 'well what is the difference between a PK and the current NLR'. Well the current NLR is something that happens no matter what, everytime someone respawns. Where as the PK requires more RP to gain approval in order for you to 'kill' someone and wipe their memory clean from that beef. If is doesn't get approved, then there is no memory loss even on respawn, the beef continues & you need to to find a better way to put a PK on that person in future. I don't know if I made that sound complicated but it's a system that works really well onces the ball is rolling.

If we are going to put a change like this in, why not just get rid of everything. No comas that make you forget eveything (you just wake up in hospital from a bad injury), no NLR, no nothing. Just like in real life your choices you make have consequences and your problems can follow you around forever unless you kill yourself (CK) or you resolve them somehow.

It would be great if fatal injuries cause people to have red nametags indicating they are dead, if they are dead the healthbar simply drops faster allowing people enough time to loot the body before they despawn, while not forcing the person to sit there for ages waiting to respawn. And yellow names for injuries where the person can be saved, with a slower healthbar drop rate to allow for medical RP. I'm sure this is doable as the script does show where the person has been hit with /analysewounds (which would be the deciding factor that says whether the person could live or not). This would solve any arguement like this. The only issue is I don't know exactly how accurate the hit boxes are. We just need something like that script wise that indicates whether the person is savable or not, I mean yeah we do have the analysewounds command but even if the bullets aren't anywhere 'fatal' people still say 'well I would bleed out'.

https://www.gtabase.com/grand-theft-auto-v/properties/gta-online/2866-hillcrest-avenue The 3 cars should be the stilt house interiors (example above) as most of the 3 garage places on the server in Vinewood are these ones or similar. As for the 4 car garage houses, they would obviously need to be even better than these interiors so things are fair. For over 1mil, I would be expecting the Penthouse style for my buck.

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Being to able get into the LSPD radio frequency would be something that can happen in real life. There are people who sit there and listen to police radio as a hobby, I would entertain that idea once cop baiting was shown to ease up on the server. I don't think that being able to listen in on 911 calls (as they are made by phone) or being able to hack your record and clear it is very realistic though.

I would also like to see the suspension of the weapons permit last longer for misuse of the legal weapons they buy. Forcing people to play it smarter when using their weapons illegaly through not wanting to lose the permit they paid so much for.

Just give the toggle mask to anyone and everyone. How you react IC to someone in a mask in a situation where you think it's strange to wear one is down to each individual. If company's want to make it a rule that their cabbies, mechanics, news reporters or whatever can't wear them on duty (although that would be common sense anyway), then they can set that rule. Didn't read all this thread but as someone else said there shouldn't be some mystical power that stops you putting one on. As for PD. I would also agree that only SWAT and Detectives should be allowed to put them on duty as an IC rule. If a detective decides to wear a mask it's up to other people to be suspicious of them if they want to be. Who wouldn't be suspicious and play things safe around someone in a mask that they didn't know. It's all about playing your criminal smart and playing your cards close to your chest. People wearing masks has become too much the norm around the city. A mechanic refused to work on my car when I was on my alt and in a mask which I thought was good RP from him. If you are in a mask people should look at you with suspicion and question you about it if you try to interact with them wearing one, Cops would also be a lot more likely to question you in regards to it.