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I know this is going to be a mixed reaction but there are so many vehicles that outperform supercars I don't know why we can't buy some of them. I understand there are some special cars in the credit store and I really appreciate the opportunity to have purchased them during special sales events. My suggestion would be to go through and add some supers maybe ones that people don't own so it doesn't devalue them or maybe that's the whole point of devaluing some of these cars?? Some of these cars are 25-50 million dollars and that's unattainable by anybody that hasn't played since the beginning Now I'm not saying that is a bad thing as they are a supercar but the argument would be with the introduction of HSW to PC in way of the speaker and shift lever. There are a magnitude of cars that can reach top speed and handle very well so the argument of they handle too good and drive too fast is out the window because you can pick up a vehicle for example the Stinger TT or if you had the opportunity to buy one of the credit ones that outperformed most supers. The police have found ways to combat the speeds and just because you have a fast car you don't always get away. I would really really enjoy seeing the introduction of some of these supers back into the server for regular people to buy you know maybe 2-3M Instead of 40! Again I know this is going to be a mixed reaction to most of you especially people that have been here that long and have obtained some of these cars but you didn't obtain these at the prices they are to day and half of the supercars in the server are never driven because they're in people's garages that don't play. There's something almost majestic when you see some of these beautiful cars driving around the city and I would just like to see more of them there's a video somewhere of a bunch of supers at drift arena doing races they were plentiful back then now they are few and far between.

There's a lot of really good ideas being posted here!! Thanks everyone for being mature during a hard topic of discussion.

I'm sorry that you have taken this as a personal attack against pd I was just using a scenario that I could speak on because I was directly involved in it I didn't want to use hearsay and this person and that person I used my direct scenario and applied the knowledge of it to the context of my writings I just wanted to create a healthy conversation about this topic in hopes maybe we could collectively come up with some good ideas

I don't agree Im in SD and i do my paperwork after i've processed the people, so they aren't waiting for me Ive never brought anyone back to sandy or paleto to do my paperwork on there J-time

I completely understand this and I totally appreciate This is the game experience that you like and enjoy and I'm not trying to blame anyone or say anyone's at fault i'm simply just trying to say when you flip the coin to the other side is people spending 3 plus hours unable to do much or do 3 activities and That playing experience is pretty lame.

I am not complaining about this or salty that it happens I just would like to see it become better, there's 3 things to do in doc that's it, poker was taken away there laundry, trash, ore, anyways 3 hour's being in doc sucks especially when you have spent 20-50 minutes pre jail waiting for leo RP, I always feel terrible for people when they are in my car waiting for all the stuff to be sorted. Lets say your a criminal and you for example evade with a gun, you at the minimum get VF01 - Evading an Officer VC05 - Improper Traffic Maneuvers GM04 - Resisting Arrest GM19 - Face Concealment (b) WM02 - Possession of a Class 1 Firearm Now with Real money Diamond VIP 2500 credits a month 25 euro im canadian so thats $37 dollars a month and i got 75 minutes in jail plus 20 min in a holding cell because they didn't want to drive me. 95 min plus my niobe zerod out because the PD decided to ram it until it caught fire instead of a chase, i was pre spiked before i was even asked to step out of the car. Then told i shouldn't be in a niobe an drive a elergy retro. Now to repair this car is 7k the fines were 4800. With all this being said I'm not mad or upset about any of this. This has become a such a common thing and the mentality needs to change OR the waiting/j-time does in my humble opinion. As a Member of SD i am very aware of all these factors and try to play as fair as i can, I am not saying others don't play fair i understand both sides, but from a community standpoint as a WHOLE i don't see how holding cells plus 3 hours in jail if you don't pay real money gives anyone a positive experience.

Just happened to me 20 min because I evaded, also there is a cap on how much it ticks off oocly after a specific time frame it stops

yea toatlly it can get quite out of hand for sure, it just sucks for the people waiting. My SD character sees it daily.. but waiting forets say 40+min for an investigation plus 3 hours im jail you can understand how that sucks beyond suck

nah it wasn't a shot at you alex, it's just sitting down inside a holding cell or prison with 3 total things to do for 1+ hours isnt fun for anyone inside lol. 4 hours bro i feel there is no positive outcome of that rp to anyone on server, we all here to have fun. you do a crime you do the time. BUT 3-4 IRL hours sitting in doc is way to much. esp for people who work or maybe have kids an only get a few hours a day or week to play.

So the other day I was pulled over and asked to get out of the vehicle for crossing a yellow line not complaining about this i'm not even complaining about the fact that they had the road already spiked before I drove away and rammed my car to catch fire costing me 7k in repairs, The thing that I feel really needs to change here is the wait time between being arrested and starting your jail time going to Mission Row or example I was on my leo character yesterday and people sat in a bus for a good 40 minutes before they were taken to start their time this is not fair by any means!!! and should change Waiting in a holding cell serves 0 purpose except a loophole to screw you around or because pd doesn't want to drive you to doc the fact that people wait 40 plus minutes before their charges start isn't acceptable. I feel it should change you can do your investigations after the person's in jail you don't need to keep them in a holding cell. I understand the argument from Leo's standpoint is we need to investigate to see if we need to add anymore charges but I feel it's just becoming a bit over the top we're going to jail, the extra charges are not needed by any means. We don't need to spend an extra 40+ minutes on top of our 2-3 hours in jail. I feel we need to stop doing this as well as lower max j-time no one wants to sit in jail for 3 hours ever j-time should be 1 hour max, and if you disagree i challenge you to make an alt commit crimes so pd charge stack you an sit there for 3 hours an tell me you've had fun and enjoyed your rp experience.

I like demonmit1 idea

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Nah I dont always agree with you but your input is good!! I hope to see the new job an I hope we can retain some new ayers some how!!

New player retention I feel has been hard recently I've been told by others and had conversations with some veteran players and new players Ic and OOC and I have come to the conclusion the economy that we have built is geared towards veteran players with money and 2k plus hours. To be a new player is extremely hard to navigate. New players join the server with 10 grand have zero clue what to do and more than likely don't know anyone on server. Your 10k could be gone in the first hour or two if ur situation is bad. (example get hit by a car or dm at burger shot after you got some overpriced clothes or just bad luck/trolled and a visit to the hospital) and you log out an never rejoin. We live in a instant gratification world now and people need the stimulation. Think about how much money you make around 6 grand per hr plus the 1k gov welfare thing doing the freelance jobs for the first little bit, you don't get taxed but when the taxes start coming in it's even harder. You are having to spend over $1000 for food and drink. Fuel prices/Taxi are through the roof! sometimes 2k depending on the station that actually restocks their pumps. This all starts with the initial cost store and gas owners have to incur ordering. There should be a HARD CAP on prices. If you're a new player you buy your first car especially with these new repair scaling changes if you get rammed or crashed because you're not a good driver you're being punished financially for it. The cost to heal yourself at the hospital the cost for fuel the cost for food clothes, repairs all while having NO idea what to do and know NO body on the server??? It's to much and anyone would just move on. Regardless of how much i wanted to RP this isn't for me i can't spend 5+ hours a day online. The server extremely grindy for new players and quite frankly for everyone We aren't in covid times anymore. I feel like we really need to change that and it starts with cost of living for everyone!!! The biggest influx of credits are.. Sales, New limited of time cars, and NEW PLAYERS!!!!! Let's say your a veteran you make 7-8k per hour as a legal and taxed 1/3rd of that 33% of 8k is 5.360 ish, now you get in an accident or trolled you spend half your hourly wage just fixing your car plus the medical bill or pain meds. (Because smoking a blunt is a crime your legal wouldn't dare risk it) and you haven't even had a bite to eat or drink! How does that make any sense!!! If your a crim you can chop, cook, free-lance it comes with a huge risk and most the time unless your allied with a lot of ppl ends in death, jail or robbed and huge losses are incurred in tickets jail time or weapons/drugs/car parts lost. A legal is stuck at a cap of 8k minus tax all while the cost of living has NEVER been higher. If your legal logs in goes to work and logs off you stack money because you don't spend much! IF you RP outside of work regularly then the money goes quickly. If you buy a new car or boat the 100+k to max the thing is wild. In a roundabout way think if your just starting this server know NO body have 0 Information the cost/grind it takes to play here is to much. If you're a Veteran with 0 VIP you make 0 after food, fuel, 1 repair. Say you want to go out to the legal track after work with some friends and you have desync or bad corner your done 2500+ 3k for medical or some pain killers and food. All in all i feel there needs to be a change/ healthy discussion because the QOL we currently have just seems to hurt everyone with in game money.

yea depends on the person an scene

helicopters sheer numbers, most people cant drive fast cars properly an get caught eventually

with the implementation of the new drug labs in the city i feel north needs a buff also to continue to have people coming up here to bay view and for the SD faction

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my suggestion is to add more weed farms do not limit them, like i said in the post

It's just a suggestion more places then 4 to pick weed less chance of being robbed consistently for Smaller groups or new people

because there are only 4-5 places you can pick it so would be nice to have a few more

Trolled again today guy tc me in an intersection driving in the wrong side or road. Caused me 4k in damages. I get repaired, I see him less then 5 min later an told him to drive better. He Intentionally hits my sports car with his brawler 3x causing another 3500 in damages.. had to go through a gate at a friend's house because the doors scriply don't work properly 2k in damages. I was driving and sync caused me to hit someone from 3 feet away in my screen I was not close to them 3200 I just struggle to understand why I'm spending 5-10+k in 2 hours because world issues sync or people just being trolls.. also now you spend more an ur windows an lights break randomly all the time.. Today at the car show spent 3k repair and then 1k car wash parked my car got out windows broke for no reason. Maybe I'm just crying but Why does my diamond VIP not help me in repair costs?

So the whole Reason that more labs were introduced I feel is to give more of a variety and make it harder for police to know what is open and not an gice criminals multiple diff locations. Now I like this I still feel like only very limited places to pick/grow weed Still causes a bit of an issue my suggestion would be too Add more weed farms Have the ability to grow your own weed in a house would require scripting but it was teased previous and drug updates Be able to grow weed anywhere on a mountain? Or be able to buy fertilizer to make the ground you choose fertile to then plant? Now the 2nd part pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease let me make mushrooms steroids and other previous drugs that give you drug effects with the recent update. Or let me import maybe? Add your thoughts and ideas

I've had a prime example of this today. So a gang took my car and permanently stalled it costing me 10k just to be trolls. Now i went to a server event a few hours later and someone kicked my car to perma cost me 6k my jug was t-boned by police and they drove off 3500. Was driving and was hit by another player to red engine my car 6k. all with in a few hours that's a total of 25,500 in just vehicle repairs in just a few hours. That doesn't make any sense in my opinion why i need to pay for people being trolls or hittin my cars