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Just now, Lord Pepe said:

Most criminals try supercars, maybe give it a week or so to trial this before considering removal. -1, for now.

Yea I agree with that, give it a week. But Criminals don't have money to pay for fines, we save up for guns. For someone who kills cops, the least of his worries would be paying his fines. Also, what happens if we get a 15k fine lets say but we only have 8k? Do we go negative or only pay 8k?

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You'll say remove because you don't want to lose. We can have this argument all day Mike. It's RP. We simulate a real life environment where actions do have consequences, financial ones. You'd be skinned if you didn't pay your tickets. They freeze all of your accounts and take your assets. So really, what you're doing is campaigning against more RP and realism.

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Just now, flow said:

You'll say remove because you don't want to lose. We can have this argument all day Mike. It's RP. We simulate a real life environment where actions do have consequences, financial ones. You'd be skinned if you didn't pay your tickets. They freeze all of your accounts and take your assets. So really, what you're doing is campaigning against more RP and realism.

Wallace.... do you even have a criminal character? Making money is already hard enough if you don't transfer money over from you alts (which you are not supposed to), so doing the fine thing will just decrease crime rate, and without criminals, cops will be useless...

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Well it doesn't cost to drive cars does it? No...... Also, weapons are sold, so some profit is made, but not enough to just waste 15k on fines. Why don't you try criminal life and then speak

1 minute ago, flow said:

I don't see how you all don't have money when you drive Zentornos and shoot people up with ARs. Do you see how it's hard for me to believe?

 

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Just now, flow said:

Who pays for the supercars? Surely that money needs to come from somewhere? And You can buy an AR for what, 20k? An item you lose probably twice daily on a bad day, but the fines are too much?

Mostly government jobs on alt characters. Just a heads up, though I don't want to get involved in this debate. 

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Just now, flow said:

Who pays for the supercars? Surely that money needs to come from somewhere? And You can buy an AR for what, 20k? An item you lose probably twice daily on a bad day, but the fines are too much?

Paying for cars with the long time saved money most have from farming/trucking/fishing etc which you have to actually work hard to get.

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Okay, so what's the issue with making it more risky to go around and commit felony crimes? Murder, GTA, etc etc. Is this not a good opportunity to stop the nonsense of openly going around committing crimes in broad daylight on a busy street, but instead take it to the hidden areas, be secretive about it, like a criminal would? Criminals are afraid of cops. Don't watch some movie and base your character off that shit. This isn't Mexico. People avoid the police, they don't actively seek them. So really, what you need to do is role play a proper criminal.

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-1/+1 - Remove welfare checks and then I can support the removal of auto fines. Welfare checks were added due to the outrageous amount of whining of the initial penal code release and the high fines. It was added because people were complaining that they did not want to do scripted jobs to make money when they're criminals so that they could pay off fines. And now, no one's still paying fines. Do you honestly think your government is going to be giving you full welfare checks if you've got fines unpaid by the government? 

PD is not trying to win anything, if you pulled yourself together and joined PD you'd see how many situations we lose either by our own will or to our disadvantage. We're trying to create a more realistic environment.

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