Longer term effects of outstanding charges/warrants for more fun RP

[garybruce]

Right now if you do a crime, and theres overwhelming evidence you did it, but you are not at the scene anymore. it seems like once that officer or another on duty finishes his shift that the crime never happened.

It would be good if in those circumstances,  will be charged, or a warrant placed for your arrest, and then whenever you are stopped by other police they can check for warrants. So even a week later you could be jailed for it and the seriousness accumulates, with maybe some kind of XP/reward for an officer that apprehends someone who is wanted with a lot of serious charges and a wanted list so that police are on the lookout for certain people and want the reward.

I don't know how its supposed to work now but it doesn't seem to work right. In 2 months of doing lots of crimes I was not caught for, some serious, I have only had 1 time when an officer came and randomly arrested me for something by tracking me with the rest of the time it forgotten.

Maybe currently it only happens like that for some kind of arranged RP, but i think it should be extended to all. 

At other times someone can do 2-3 days of bomb attacks or shootings, or serious crimes, where the police know who is doing it for sure, but then on day 3 you get arrested for speeding or something, sent to DOC for 20 minutes, and then you are clean and nobody seems to ever remember you fired automatic weapons at cityhall police and battered someones dog with a golf club, and then in front of a crowd roasted and ate a policemans buttock meat.

I think in introducing more longer term scope to outstanding warrants/charges it would lead to more interesting RP for both the police and criminals, as the criminals with a long list of charges would try their utmost to not be stopped by the police, and would lead to more depth to the RP for criminal gangs

 

Edited January 8 by garybruce

[Hector2Fingers]

Hey there @garybruce.  Thank you for the suggestion!

I can confirm that this is already in place.  There are case files and investigations that can take weeks or even months for the roleplay to complete and a case to be considered concluded.  There are also times where an officer can confidently place charges immediately and a non-expiring warrant can be issued for arrest.  There are, however, several IC protocols in place to prevent LEOs from doing this with insufficient evidence to avoid both OOC issues as well as things being overturned in IC court.  What you may see as overwhelming evidence may not meet what is required by internal IC protocols to immediately charge someone for a crime.

In your case, there could be a multitude of factors that you have not been charged for a crime(s), or it may be a case that is still in the works and yet to be concluded/charges placed.  There also could be the possibility that information for a crime wasn’t passed through the appropriate IC channels, and the crime slipped through the cracks.

 tl;dr – this is already a thing with entire Bureaus of both PD & SD dedicated to longer term criminal case files and investigations.

If you'd like to provide feedback to PD or SD on this, I would suggest to fill out the roleplay feedback forms on the government website for the departments in which would have been involved in your roleplay.

[Ranger]

Hoping to just offer some clarity on a couple points you made. I won't go into full detail on some things as it keeps the magic of how LEO (Law Enforcement Officers) might operate to be something you find out through roleplay means.

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Right now if you do a crime, and theres overwhelming evidence you did it, but you are not at the scene anymore. it seems like once that officer or another on duty finishes his shift that the crime never happened.

Really, it just depends on what's achievable at the time. Sometimes on a scene it's very blatant who did something whether it's that an officer saw it, someone has bodycam (RP bodycam but OOC footage via recording software), or CCTV RP is done where you might receive an /ldo or be identified via that—there's many different things that might affect when/why a charge is placed. It's fairly common that with some crimes committed nothing can be done just due to a lack of evidence, in that case sometimes the only thing that can happen is increased patrols in the area to attempt to catch the person in the act again or prevent further crime. I've been on scenes where it was fairly easy and straight-forward on following up and arresting the suspect, and I've been on scenes where I've had to tell others "there's nothing we can do due to a lack of evidence", it's really just circumstantial.

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It would be good if in those circumstances,  will be charged, or a warrant placed for your arrest, and then whenever you are stopped by other police they can check for warrants.

If the outcome is that a charge is placed, LEO can see any active/outstanding charges when running someone's name, it's really just up to the person actually having charges. Keep in mind that not every crime committed might result in immediate charges being placed, sometimes the Detective Bureau(s) will create and open casefiles and investigations on someone's character where a case will be built/investigated deeper and charges be placed later.

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In 2 months of doing lots of crimes I was not caught for, some serious, I have only had 1 time when an officer came and randomly arrested me for something by tracking me with the rest of the time it forgotten.

Honestly, there's just the chance that no one reported it, or it wasn't able to be followed up on immediately/at all due to a lack of evidence. Also, you never know, maybe it was added to an aforementioned casefile and it's just being investigated/followed up on further in time and investigation. There's multiple avenues to build a case or investigate a crime outside of the scene itself that can build up to charges being placed.

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Maybe currently it only happens like that for some kind of arranged RP, but i think it should be extended to all. 

Warrants extend to all criminals outside of "arranged" RP, in my time as a part of an LEO faction I've assisted in serving multiple warrants some for people who were only charged the day prior and it involved killing other police officers and the person either escaped successfully and logged off and I've also assisted in serving warrants for people who've had 3+ month casefiles concluded and charges placed after the fact and they were picked up later.

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you get arrested for speeding or something, sent to DOC for 20 minutes, and then you are clean and nobody seems to ever remember you fired automatic weapons at cityhall police and battered someones dog with a golf club, and then in front of a crowd roasted and ate a policemans buttock meat

For situations like this, criminals will likely have a casefile made against them, it's just a matter of investigating their character and building cases as they do stuff. Like I mentioned in another part of this reply, there might've been circumstances where charges weren't able to be placed immediately at the time of the crime being committed.

 

Overall, if you do have any proper suggestions or ideas for changes or improvements, a good avenue to do this would be to make a roleplay feedback suggestion through the faction's GOV site area—that'd probably be the best place to give any proper suggestions for review by faction command since it's a faction-based thing not necessarily a "server" change.

[SaltyPoiosn]

Pretty simple really, the crimes are logged and BOLO’s are placed. Thats when you will be found, detained, and sometimes questioned. I cannot use every finger and toe to account for how many times I committed a crime days prior to my arrest. Whether a BOLO or a warrant is placed you will always be at the very minimum, spoken to.