+20 credit vehicles, being affected

[Ritchie Stones]

BEFORE ANYTHING, osvaldon has commented that, due to credit vehicles wil be looked into.
so please leave the chaos at home.

i want to simply make aware very politely, the danger of this update affecting the credit vehicles.
as a person being deep +20 cars in credit store, this affects your most loyal and invested donators the most, 
and i can not stress this enough, but this could become a very bad mistake for the future of donating because trust can be very easly broken here,
why would i for the next seeing future invest into a credit car if afterwards the extra added cost can be tampered with up to 10x in some cases.
this is very dangerous i have been talking about this since almost 2 months, and the reality is now here.

as we invest real life money we have a certain expectancy to "extra added cost +-150k mods" to see now some vehicles being x10 in extra cost, might not sound huge for 1 car,
but for someone being deep 20 cars is a MASSIVE setback. "i will not be enjoying most of my cars the way i used to because of this"
though i have put my money in for it.

LIST of cars + most recent credits cost.

VSTR 8000
rebla 7000
jubilee 5500
patriot 7000
dragur 8000
10F 15 000
windsor 4500
italy GTO 25 000
torros 16 500
ETR1 11 500
paragon S 16 500
coquette D10. 25 000
italy RSX 25 000
nero costum 25 000
kamacho 8000
IGNUS 50 000
X80 proto 50 000
sentinel GTS 11 500
gauntlet hellfire 7000
niobe 50 000

total = 376.000 credits 
take in account the discounts and changed prices over the years ofc.
lets be fair and honest, the real price i paid will vary from the reality presented here.

i do not wich a refund, but i would also very much appreciate that this wil be looked into very deeply with care,
because the people who are affected the most are the one who have put in over the past years the most.
i am not only very worried about my own purchases but also very worried about the reaction from the player base this might set in motion, 
and we already find ourself in a bit of a tight spot, 
once again i do not intend to streer up any drama here, but i want to politely present the "severity" of some people being affected here.
and the mistrust this might spark into the future of purchase literally anything, leading to less money going into the server.
this danger is very real.

i wil post a screenshot here below of the comment of osvaldon, which i am very glad he did. so that there is not yet any reason to panic.
but i DO want to state very urgently the severity and potential risk of this change.

[imran]

An other update to nerf crim/non LEO players, the server already running low and i wish it won't go lower from these careless updates.

i do not understand what management are doing. people bought either from IG cash or credits points a set of vehicles based on the price/quality/speed ratio, then an update pops out and ruins eveything, i'de suggest a total refund of the buyout cost cash/credit so people re-invest on what they need based  on their budget, dev team added the HSW mods , and if its thee problem don't put the blame on the player base, they should had made it cost this much from the start, not after what people invested their credits or millions.

[Ritchie Stones]

5 minutes ago, imran said:

An other update to nerf crim/non LEO players, the server already running low and i wish it won't go lower from these careless updates.

i do not understand what management are doing. people bought either from IG cash or credits points a set of vehicles based on the price/quality/speed ratio, then an update pops out and ruins eveything, i'de suggest a total refund of the buyout cost cash/credit so people re-invest on what they need based  on their budget, dev team added the HSW mods , and if its thee problem don't put the blame on the player base, they should had made it cost this much from the start, not after what people invested their credits or millions.

this is not a crim nerf, its a nerf for everyone, i do admit however that its been brick by brick to the face, "for the fixing of an economy" for who ? new players we dont have ? everyone in her is in it for years, some just did better and smarter then others, wich is fair to me, anyway, spare the negativity, its already bad enough, credit vehicles wil be looked into, i do feel bad for people who have many non credits vehicles because those wil most likely be ignored in the proces.

lets hope something REEEEAAAALY excited comes after this update, because after the leveling system, the guns decay, the vehicles, and 3 years of crims nerfs, yes we NEED something comming our way really soon, because it has been a down the drain expierence, for many years now, but this our comments, right now our off the table related to this post 

[imran]

8 minutes ago, Ritchie Stones said:

this is not a crim nerf, its a nerf for everyone, i do admit however that its been brick by brick to the face, "for the fixing of an economy" for who ? new players we dont have ? everyone in her is in it for years, some just did better and smarter then others, wich is fair to me, anyway, spare the negativity, its already bad enough, credit vehicles wil be looked into, i do feel bad for people who have many non credits vehicles because those wil most likely be ignored in the proces.

lets hope something REEEEAAAALY excited comes after this update, because after the leveling system, the guns decay, the vehicles, and 3 years of crims nerfs, yes we NEED something comming our way really soon, because it has been a down the drain expierence, for many years now, but this our comments, right now our off the table related to this post 

sorry, but my patience is gone, am sure they will just add hsw upgrade for like 5000credit which is am sure not a big deal for you, but the server seems to be going on a P2W / nerf crims, which is not my type.
they could have just readjust the mods prices , and let current moded ones and avoided this whole problem, the server real problem isn't HSW, its the grind gameplay that gives no roam to people to be creative and enjoy intraction between eash others, its more about grind or  buy credits inside a player base full of grinders and toxic people.

Edited November 5, 2025 by imran

[Ritchie Stones]

40 minutes ago, imran said:

sorry, but my patience is gone, am sure they will just add hsw upgrade for like 5000credit which is am sure not a big deal for you, but the server seems to be going on a P2W / nerf crims, which is not my type.
they could have just readjust the mods prices , and let current moded ones and avoided this whole problem, the server real problem isn't HSW, its the grind gameplay that gives no roam to people to be creative and enjoy intraction between eash others, its more about grind or  buy credits inside a player base full of grinders and toxic people.

they could have just readjust the mods prices , and let current moded ones and avoided this whole problem,  i agree on this line,  the refunds is due to wanting to fix the inflated economy, so the change is not with melevoilent intend, see it more like a cause and effect thing, less personal, the devs already posted that they wil look into the issue making clear the feel for the comunity, lets hope a good conclusion comes from it, 

i think you post has more underlying frustrations than the hsw alone, good that you express yourself 

[Mikazuki Ueno]

I have ‘Legend’ status on the server for my financial contributions, which I consider donations. I donate money to them to help them figure out what needs to be done. If I lose something I spent real money on, I don’t consider it a loss because it was a donation in the first place.

[Ritchie Stones]

14 minutes ago, Mikazuki Ueno said:

I have ‘Legend’ status on the server for my financial contributions, which I consider donations. I donate money to them to help them figure out what needs to be done. If I lose something I spent real money on, I don’t consider it a loss because it was a donation in the first place.

but just because you feel that way doesn't mean the entire server should agree, it is clear many people clearly do not agree with this change, so to, put yourself in the center of reality with your oppinion is a big mistake, just because your fine with it doesn't mean everyone is fine with it, basic intelligence at play here. 

you can always go back to the principal " its donations" but that doesnt mean people wil regain their trust from a statement, people simply will hesitate in the future to buy, some big consitant donators might remain upset and leave, so everyone loses from that, nobody wins, and worse of all you wil not be able to negotiate that reality and sure not ignore it when the lifespan of the server gets cut by half, then we all just lose faster, 
so you might be nonchalant about this, but am here ringing a huge alarm thinking already a few step ahead.

also if it is truely " donating" then remove everything that you get from it, but the server wont do that because then nobody would be " donating" so its a purchase..... you donate with a returned expectation... thats a purchase.
its is very clear, many people feel "FEEL" like a customer and they are clearly disappointed, so you going to pull the "donation reminder" card on them ? dismissing their feelings ? that wont be smart

[Aerzioa]

Would be nice to be able to possible refund our credit vehicles, letting us revert them back into credits at % maybe. I don't think that would hurt anyone?

[Demonmit1]

buying cars with real money for the sake of their performance is just straight up pay to win. reducing pay to win is a very good move for the health of the server. You still own the car, you can still drive it, but the rebalance to performance mod costs was a very well needed change. 

[Ritchie Stones]

1 minute ago, Demonmit1 said:

buying cars with real money for the sake of their performance is just straight up pay to win. reducing pay to win is a very good move for the health of the server. You still own the car, you can still drive it, but the rebalance to performance mod costs was a very well needed change. 

Without those donation you would not be able to play the server. Nobody at all in fact

[Ritchie Stones]

17 minutes ago, Aerzioa said:

Would be nice to be able to possible refund our credit vehicles, letting us revert them back into credits at % maybe. I don't think that would hurt anyone?

But many people dont want a refund they want their stuff that was bought with real money to stay untouched. 
 

the other vehicles is fine to me.not completely… but sure why not.

refund is a bad idea. Nobody wins from that. It means less money to support the server. Also it alows the people who initialy wanted to leave the server before to actualy do so and get away with it having their money back. Its literally holding open te door for those who wanna leave

Edited November 6, 2025 by Ritchie Stones

[Mikazuki Ueno]

1 hour ago, Ritchie Stones said:

just because you feel that way doesn't mean the entire server should agree

I never expected that. I was giving my opinion, not trying to change anyone else's.

[Aerzioa]

36 minutes ago, Ritchie Stones said:

But many people dont want a refund they want their stuff that was bought with real money to stay untouched. 
 

the other vehicles is fine to me.not completely… but sure why not.

refund is a bad idea. Nobody wins from that. It means less money to support the server. Also it alows the people who initialy wanted to leave the server before to actualy do so and get away with it having their money back. Its literally holding open te door for those who wanna leave

I'm not saying MONEY BACK, I'm saying getting the Credits you used to buy the Credit vehicle.

[Smoke1]

Hey guys everyone's points are being heard by the devs but let's give the team time!

[imran]

8 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

they could have just readjust the mods prices , and let current moded ones and avoided this whole problem,  i agree on this line,  the refunds is due to wanting to fix the inflated economy, so the change is not with melevoilent intend, see it more like a cause and effect thing, less personal, the devs already posted that they wil look into the issue making clear the feel for the comunity, lets hope a good conclusion comes from it, 

i think you post has more underlying frustrations than the hsw alone, good that you express yourself 

Inflation definition is ( long term increase of prices ) ,if they trying to deflate the economy , chatgpt would give them better results than this, because now it went from inflation to mega-inflation.

Inflation isn't a bad thing in economy, but its bad when the consumers buyout capacity is hurt, the same case as the current case.

They just destroying the player base that makes the server alive,the only ones that seems to be liking this update are werrners owners and admin team.

[Ritchie Stones]

10 hours ago, Aerzioa said:

I'm not saying MONEY BACK, I'm saying getting the Credits you used to buy the Credit vehicle.

But thats even worse what am i going to do with 176000 credits

[JohnnnnyP]

48 minutes ago, Ritchie Stones said:

But thats even worse what am i going to do with 176000 credits

Personally, I’d trade my 3 decent credit cars, and buy 1 single one that’s worth upgrading at the new cost. 

[Homast]

4 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

what am i going to do with 176000 credits

Credit Apartments, Slots, Skins, Animation sets. The Credit store is your oyster my friend

[Ritchie Stones]

1 hour ago, Homast said:

Credit Apartments, Slots, Skins, Animation sets. The Credit store is your oyster my friend

I already have everything else that 176000 credits is the cars only. 

[Ritchie Stones]

5 hours ago, JohnnnnyP said:

Personally, I’d trade my 3 decent credit cars, and buy 1 single one that’s worth upgrading at the new cost. 

But thats even worse is not the case for everyone. I like my cars. All of them. 

[Ritchie Stones]

10 hours ago, imran said:

Inflation definition is ( long term increase of prices ) ,if they trying to deflate the economy , chatgpt would give them better results than this, because now it went from inflation to mega-inflation.

Inflation isn't a bad thing in economy, but its bad when the consumers buyout capacity is hurt, the same case as the current case.

They just destroying the player base that makes the server alive,the only ones that seems to be liking this update are werrners owners and admin team.

Yeah i wonder myself to sometime. Fixing economy ? For who? The new players we dont have?

[Aerzioa]

It would still be nice to be able to refund our Credit vehicles so I buy just ONE credit vehicle that is worthy.

 

[imran]

i got the final solution, hsw no longer a mod but a standart option in those vehicles, and re-adjust import costs of it, so current HSW vehicles owners will get the hsw upgrade as standart one, but buyout cost increase by 50 or 70 percent.

[Ritchie Stones]

1 hour ago, Aerzioa said:

It would still be nice to be able to refund our Credit vehicles so I buy just ONE credit vehicle that is worthy.

 

yeah well maybe its worth for you but for me that would mean nothing, i already have the best car and all i need is those best cars, so i cant go up anymore on that, even if i get a refund i would not be able to do anything with it, 
and then would i also lose my legendairy status ? or does the credit top 50 people get massive inflated on their standart, because that would then suddenly be 176000 X2 invested, so nobody else gets legendairy status anymore because we suddenly peak 2X higher on the scoreboard

[Aerzioa]

 

3 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

yeah well maybe its worth for you but for me that would mean nothing, i already have the best car and all i need is those best cars, so i cant go up anymore on that, even if i get a refund i would not be able to do anything with it, 
and then would i also lose my legendairy status ? or does the credit top 50 people get massive inflated on their standart, because that would then suddenly be 176000 X2 invested, so nobody else gets legendairy status anymore because we suddenly peak 2X higher on the scoreboard

They could do something like Fortnite and give us 3 return tickets lol