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+1 like this and want it back. That trick works for car doors but not hoods or trunks.

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I am sorry you had a bad experience andor, you know how I am with my RP and how I like my lengthy RP sessions. What charges were placed? and what lies and deceit occurred, if you don't mind can you DM me so we can continue this conversation. PD is also increasing its RP standard yet again so hopefully we can reduce the number of occurrences where other players feel their rp was short changed. Please also everyone reading this remember that PD is also players and the majority of us want RP, not shoot outs. Provide PD with good rp and you will get it back, I always try to start my interactions on a heavy rp level and then as I determine the level of rp they want in their scene my rp will come down to match that. If the only rp I get from a player after a shoot out is /do im dead.... then obviously im not going to spend 45mins rping with that person if they are not willing to rp with me. So its a two way street.

@Nubbsauce @Andor I appreciate you guys bringing this discussion forward. I see a few issues with the above comments. How was this plan formulated, as you clearly stated First issue with your plan, the officers had most likely id'd Tom Daniels prior to the swap (he is extremely well known, and is the most arrested person in the city), meaning as soon as they saw 2 cars leave the same area, 1 driving the speed limit and one the opposite direction, assumingly at the speed limit also. Officers would immediately upon arrival at the scene proceed to arrest you, as if you are driving his car after a lengthy pursuit. One of two things would be running through the officers heads, A. If they hadn't ID'D him, you would of been arrested for Felony Evasion B. If they had ID'd him, you would be assisting in his escape be it, that he paid you, or that willingly just hopped in it and drove off. Based on the fact that there was likely only 2 minutes of lost visual from the time the car pulled into the parking area, and when you pulled out, which the car was immediately identified, a normal civilian, even criminal wouldn't just hop into a car for 200$ even 2000$ of a car that wipes into a parking area, and says "here drive my car to XXXX location and ill give you XXXX$" and then the guy jumps into another car and takes off. This would be sketchy as hell. With the recent instances of cops getting shot at for simply pulling over a car and issuing a speeding ticket, understand that PDs time on scenes is often reduced for fear of loss of life. (I don't make it through a 2hour shift without getting killed anymore, even if I only do traffic stops). I agree more RP could of been completed, but based on the above accounts I feel that what occurred is neither a breech of any level of server rules, or faction policy. @Nubbsauce I would like to enjoy some of this high level official gang rp sometime in my interactions with criminal organizations, my most recent encounters have been 12 people standing at the bank doing donuts and talking about buying aks and robbing people in-front of cops, this is not "high" level RP. In my opinion a high level criminal organization shouldn't be getting arrested every 15mins, or killing cops every time they get pulled over. As I said I would really enjoy meeting a official faction that is willing to provide heavy rp with police rather then taking off from a minor speeding ticket in-order to get a pursuit and a shootout. I do recognize that there are members of these factions that rp very well and I appreciate them when I do manage to get a chance to rp with them.

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Okay, so yes the inventory lets you see what that person has, but are you using a /me searchs the man for items, like keys, phone, wallet. /do would I find keys, wallet, phone? I assume not as you are just using the "I" key this is acceptable but doesn't allow the person to RP, as for all you know he left his keys in his car, or wallet or phone... or didn't bring his wallet today. My point is, that if you want to improve RP, rather then using server scripts to force people to give you their cars, why not prior to killing someone which everyone seems to be super fast and happy to do, rp a robbery. So your taking the guys car you just killed because you want to destroy it, well grab a set of bobby pins and have at it. I feel that searching a person should take time, you wouldn't find his wallet, keys and phone gun, 6 pairs of pants 12 bottles of booze, and be able to jam them in your pockets all in 3 seconds. It takes time. RP it, that's why we play here is to RP, if your interested in just shooting people head over the GTA online get it out of your system, rp with people, talk to them, learn their back stories, make your own backstory, hell create a story in the game that may actually impact other people in the server for more then the 30mins that they have to wait for NLR so they can go back and get their car that you shot them because they took your friends gun 45mins ago that you didn't see.

-1 , Pressing I wouldn't automatically search pockets and also doesn't offer any rp to the guy on the ground. Also allows people to quickly grab guns and items off a person that would be in holsters with clasps, or in pockets that wouldn't be exposed without rolling a person over. Or for heavy weapons could have a sling around the persons shoulders slowing down the removal of the items. I think that more RP is needed other then just running up to someone and press "I" as often times the person that is down would like an RP experience.

I will leave a few numbers, you want to discuss realism and expecting the Police to hold a higher level of Roleplay that is acceptable but offer good Roleplay to the police officers and we notice, I often reward people who provide good rp instead of /do dead. The people that give me good rp and don't instantly expect or demand Death, are noted down, and if they do it a couple times provide good rp, then I let them have death rp on some. The less they ask the more they get it from me, and a lot of PD are the same, we keep track of players that are fun to RP with, and those that just go straight to /b. We are here to have fun also, we choose a different type of RP, but a lot of us have alts in criminal lives and we know both sides. So a few numbers from the USA. 323million people. in the last 26 years there have been 90mass shootings. Of the 33,594 deaths in the usa in 2016, 14,415 where cause by guns, 71 of which were from mass shootings. so now if we convert this to numbers reflective of our server population... say 323 people (easy numbers) that is 1 player per 1million people in the usa. meaning that in 100 IC years there would be a total of 1.4 murders caused by guns. Now in our lovely city of los santos there are hundreds of people killed a IC day. A few more numbers to consider. We will use Los Angeles as our benchmark. 271 homicides in 2016, for a city with a population of 4million in the same year (+/- its an estimate I didn't read the entire census) that is one death for every 14,760 people in the city. Meaning our population of 323... would mean 2 people die every 100 years. we see hundreds of deaths every day. Now if we look at PD population based on deaths due to firearms. 24.6 officers per 10k people (LA ratio). with 271 deaths per year... total police is 9,850 officers to handle 271 murders in the city per year. So if we assume 100 murders per 4 days in LS(extremely conservative here guys).... That means 9,125 murders a year (for a population of 300ish people) so now if we look at cops to deaths and use that as a guide suggesting how many officers should be in the city compared to murders that occur (assuming everyone whos not a cop or medic is a criminal) based on the above ratios.... there should be 1 cop for every 1.2 murders. So I leave my final thought after all that.... the LSPD has currently roughly 80 people, maximum I have seen on (excluding cadet academies) at any given time, (since January when I joined) was 15 players on duty... this was on a day when the server hit 230 players. The number of calls that day was in the range of 30 pd calls, and 20md calls. (these calls cycle after 30 ooc minutes on the computers so they aren't old) That is 50calls for 15cops and 5 medics to deal with in 30minutes. People get upset when pd or md don't come to their calls instantly, this is why. So if you want to hold the police department to a higher standard of RP, to the point of realism, please return the favor, and don't just go shoot or try and kidnap cops for a simple speeding ticket, or a traffic stop. Don't cause needless shoot outs. You have one life, fear for it, fight to stay alive rather then instantly /do hes dead. On another note, I really enjoy pulling up to a shooting, shooting a person, analyze their wounds and find a list 10 items long, and only 2 are fresh (meaning I did them) but somehow he survived the first 8 shots in the head and spine that are healing already, but my shot in his left leg is the reason he dies.

The only issue I see with this is that it will result in people calling and uber… getting kidnapped and then robbed, and likely killed. Creating additional work load and situations for an already stretched thin pd. It is an interesting concept and I think someone tried to start an uber service up a while ago but I think it fell flat. Perhaps if people used cabs a bit more you would see more around.

@Louie Lane I had a great bit of fun with you today, thank you for the fun roleplay! Thanks for the fun pursuit, the better conversations and the little bit of a shoot out! I would like to state that thus far I have had zero bad experiences with the VAGOS, and that is saying something as a cop we generally get people going straight to OOC, or complaining and threatening reports. I enjoyed my RP with you today Louie, Keep it up I like what your doing with your crew! Then I hear an officer later processing a suspect talking about your RP while in prison, use the bathroom, you guys are creating RP that isn't about killing cops, I like it, Well done.!

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I like this idea a lot. +1