Phil McGee

You must be in love with us or something, your obsessed? We have no idea who you even are IG. And judging by your spectrum responses I wouldn't want to know as I reckon you are a drag to play with it.

I think a lot of you have misunderstood the purpose of this original post which was posted by one person. It was supposed to open up a reasonable dialogue back and forth on the original valid issues outlined, not for a medium for us to to apologize for being the catalyst in your gangs downfalls. Why should we or we say sorry for winning a IG war, its ludicrous. There has been reasonable feedback in maybe 3 or 4 posts and 2 of them are from non gang affiliated members which I personally think were valid. But if I feel and the other 10 people involved doing an RP of kidnapping and doing a makeover on a x crime boss is fun RP and good RP then I think the RP level is fine. Im using the Tavi kidnapping as an example as I didn't even know Andor was there but im glad he enjoyed it. But in this case Tavi did everything he could doto try and ruin the RP for everyone else involved and spent the entire time calling admins and refusing to get his hair hut and refusing to dance etc even though the admin was telling him to do it. If he had of played along he would have been out of the RP on the side of the road in 10 - 15 minutes but he wouldn't play ball so we held onto him for a longer amount of time. And the amount of hypocritical responses from the beta cuck brigade is hilarious , if you are just going to vent, do it on your discords as it solves nothing spewing it on here. Constructive only please. Id also like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody for my RP , i dont speak on behalf of any of the other members of the Gut Pushers. We have hands down the most creative RP on the server.

Its a deal brother. I didnt kidnap anyone during that incident. Did they enjoy the RP. That kidnapping was not mine, I was not part of the 5. Yes I egged them on but even left before it was over. Hardly the catalyst in that one but Ill admit I may have forwarded some ideas akin to " Enter the Thunder-dome" OK but it was the Bosses daughter in that RP situation who we were at war with. The logic being if they have to leave men there to guard her it thins the heard for us to pick off the rest roaming the street. It wasn't in anyway a personal attack but just a tactical move on our behalf.

Your saying it like its a regular thing. I was kidnapped by the exiled and Irish the day before at the lost massacre in the house. So I wanted one back which I think is perfectly fair and IC so when Im rolling with a massive crew and I see the x head of the enemy faction I grab him and dress him up like Magic Mike. Its not more than 1 a week.

Not sure if your just trolling now or actually serious feel free to PM me if you wish to get more details.

They saw the cars parked outside and called us up for backup. I know I was there, they were robbed and it was a decent bit of RP that they all enjoyed. I didn't make anyone do anything, again just talking via second hand information.

@Kay133I asked you nicely there is no need be uncivil.

What hostages and who was involved. I did take Tavi hostage and dress him up as magic mike which would have been over in 10 minutes if he played along but just kept calling admins and ruining our RP experience by refusing to get his hair so I decided fuck him ill dress him up and make him dance. The serpents robbed Sunny and Bobby in mirror park. If you feel a rule has been broken file a report.

No you said in numerous videos. And as I already stated we were not in 3rd party voip, please get your facts straight. Read said report, and to be honest not to be too harsh but you are a perfect example of the lemming grape vine problem that is on the server. Certain members do nothing but bitch and complain and you take it as gospel without formulating your own opinion. And I can guarantee you cant find anything with us metagaming in it because we dont, fact! As for this PD talk take it somewhere else and please dont derail the thread @Kay133 cheers mate

I thought I was pressing M but clearly wasnt reaching the button enough , this is all explained in the post for you to read in detail . Have a read then come back. You specifically said in our videos you have seen OOC communication, tell me what videos and I can address it. How would we know where everyone is on the server? Maybe because they hang out in the same spots? The laws of averages.

Nope it proved my mic was recording everything, there was no 3rd party voip involved. I spoke on the radio , Lerons responds on the radio.

Oh your talking about us? Im confused, do have any examples of the Gut Pushers Metagaming besides the one time I said " health" over the radio IG? As we always play 100% legit using IG communications, its what we are all about. We have admins in the gang that roll with us that will vouch for a authenticity etc . Also may I ask the source of this grapevine as this is the one of the issues we are trying to weed out. But as I said please give me any example of metagaming that we have done and I can address it certainly, mate.

That's an excellent question and I would love to hear from a member of the Exiled regarding this.

Trespassing is a misdemeanor, shooting illegal weapons would be a felony. The 2 are polar opposites. And I would agree it's a poor place for a shipment to come in.

They drove up on me and I left. I'd have thought they would shown some restraint on an international airport runway, sadly I was mistaken.

So I'm going to use this as an example: How is disrupting the supply chain of a rival gang from a safe distance bad RP? Is it unrealistic that I would do that?

It's not negating anything, it's disagreeing with their POV and discussing it which leads to a healthy discussion. Who are you IG may I ask?

In my defense I stopped to pick up Ragh who was outside the doors and would have dipped back out within seconds if he wasn't having PC issues. I would be quite confident in losing you all at any point, especially in a super car. What can I say ,I'm a patriot. And it's not like I was 10ft behind them tailing them all the time but was hiding and calling the cops. This is good RP, I know it's frustrating for you as it led to your gang being harassed by the cops and resulting in numerous reports but that's not our fault.

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I was referring to the report regarding the ooc insults not this one. It's this type of poor attitude that is trying to be treated. I'm my opinion you , whoever you are as I have no idea why Leron tagged but he must have felt you are feeling wronged in some manner, lost the war after asking us to not come at you guys with so few people. We did exactly what was asked of us and complain again when the war is won. And yeah we will have " fun" as will the other 80% of the server.

My bad , I saw you respond to an OOC insult report regarding Steve Ranchman so I assumed that was you as why else would you be responding to it. I have no idea who you are IG either. So whomever Ranchman is he can respond if he so wishes regarding that specific point.

Who are you IG? Steve Ranchman aka Steve the Snake? Might have been a sports car but regardless of class of car it happened and the driver was an exiled member.

I would echo all that is said above by Leron and I think the evidence put forth speaks for itself. This is not our opinions, theses are facts and figures which if you approach from a purely logical point of view clearly display s " the pot calling the kettle black" We spent 2 hours in a OOC meeting with Admin s and left under the agreement that we all try and elevate our RP. The 2 examples put forth of us harrasing the exiled were Photo bombing a picture and ruining a wedding by getting the radio which were rediculous. The very next day @MrKantonine blocked @WoogeTV into a store in a super car. Rammed me off my bike and slammed into a tree. And 2 other exiled members attempted to KOS me. This agreement didn't even last 8 hours before we got attacked. The baiting that you claim is just a symptom of the rules. Yeah sure we could clip you in smaller groups with no RP but then we get done for DM. We need to initiate to do anything and to be honest 99% we came out on top. And even after we were moaned at about our gang was too small to take on your gangs which we disagree with, we recruited other groups to help us in our war and that wasn't acceptable either as you were losing all your turf etc. Wether you feel it was valid is in another report. This resulted you taking your ball and going home.

Remove the NCZ policy regarding the interior of the prison. I can understand not wanting to have issues with people being shot at while transporting people into the jails but once inside it should be fair game. Violence in prison actually happens and what is the purpose of having solitary confinement. Or possibly give people the ability to lock their owns cells they are assigned on incarceration if they want to just AFK and not RP.

I think if they ever bring hunting in I would like to see double-barrelled shotguns. With the possibility of sawing them off if so inclined for criminals.