ShawnsBeard

The primary issue with crim is that actual relevant content has stagnated completely since roughly 2022 when house robberies were added. I can separate Eclipse criminal content into roughly three categories: good, bad, and doesn't exist but should. There are definitely some things that the server has that are unique and solid gameplay loops, but they are few and far between. I believe the turf/black market system is the best crim content the server has, and the only real complaint I have towards it is that the war system that ties into it needs some rebalancing and official factions cry too much about turf based conflict - which is valid if all their turfs are bombed overnight but I think we should promote small individual turf based conflict more such as two groups fighting over control of a lab turf. The content I have listed as bad could all be reworked to become more interesting and interactive, I just feel like they are currently extremely simple systems that always feel like you're doing the same exact thing every single time. The Good: Turfs Faction System / Black Market Drug Labs House Robberies The Bad: Store Robberies Chopping Grave robbing ATM's Bank Robberies Doesn't Exist But Should: Boosting w/ progression Chopping progression Heists (Jewelry store, humane labs, main bank/paleto bank, police equipment transports, money trucks, etc) Cornering/Drug Runs (Selling drugs to NPC's other than turfs, either on the street or via delivery methods for increased pay but no turf influence) Weed growing progression - build up to indoor weed grow system Moonshine Production/Sales Crypto as a secondary currency (won from races/boosts, hacked off of NPC's, mined w/ expensive setups that are vulnerable) Crafting System (also sorta civ based but server will need this on fivem, everything being money based is a big problem RN)

- Cops should be unable to apply FearRP to crims. Players should be able to value their freedom and decide to either surrender/run/fight cops regardless of the weapons that cops have pulled on them. (dont know if this is a thing or not already, havent played in years forgive me) - Max height limit for helicopter flights due to the nature of the helicopters going out of load distance from the ground, while still being able to see players/things on the ground. This has burned countless people on the server, and when they are often confused as to how they got caught they are told they had a heli following them. IRL it is blatantly obvious whenever a helicopter is anywhere remotely close to you, as they are easily visible in the sky and extremely loud. I can personally think of at least 5 distinct instances this exact scenario has affected me directly, and every single time it is a horrible experience with no counterplay. - Prison time needs lowered across the board. I feel like this is always mentioned and then we are told it happened but it never really has. I think leaving the max sentence time as it currently is is fine, but the actual time that is garnered for individual charges is way too high. From what I remember, just felony evasion alone was an hour jailtime - and usually that is stacked along with other charges and more often than not results in a players sentencing being maxed out. Being charged with enough to receive a max sentence should be a rare occurrence, not the usual. This includes charge stacking BTW, which is a problem as well. - Cops RP standards need improved. Have had too many instances to count where cops are parading around and acting like gang members rather than law enforcement, which makes the roleplay feel tacky. For the most part, this complaint is directed at detective RP, where I feel they are mostly just inserting themselves directly into dangerous situations to kick things off like a shootout/chase instead of gathering information and passing it along to other officers so they can try and keep their cover. - Make cops purchase body armor and have it be an actual inventory item rather than reapplied via /fl

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Which is why, instead of being overly passive-aggressive and demeaning on a discussion thread where people only want the server to improve, we could maybe spread clarification and come to an understanding as a community? It is an extremely tacky look to have administrators barge onto threads and try to little-man those having a conversation instead of contributing positively. There in lies the reason these threads get 'out of hand', because people like you will take any sort of comment/suggestion as a personal jab rather than what it should be - a discussion.

How hard is it for you to simply admit that cops did have 200 AP before, but now no longer have access to it? That may be where the confusion for some is coming from, because many people know for a literal fact that cops did have access to 200AP at one point, most are probably just unaware that they no longer do. The community and this conversation in general might be a little bit more welcoming if we could all learn to communicate properly

shits been suggested 10+ times, wont happen

this warehouse is still bugged

What handcuffs are we referring to here? In one situation, I witnessed K9 units being called for a minor speeding traffic violation, armored kurumas being spawned in, snipers in helis shooting any and everybody in the area (including those unarmed trying to run away and those not involved at all on bikes), and DOC officers being called for backup to a shootout that did not involve them... I really fail to see where LEO factions have any sort of handcuffs for handling situations whatsoever on this server - yet crims are held back by outdated and unfun rule limitations. +1 to removing the backup breach rule for LEO situations. Maybe we could restore some of the community feeling to the crim side of the server with a change like that.

+1, going to see a lot of people unsure with how to follow the rules in certain situations or a lot of unnecessary reports due to the random change. Reports and ban appeals have 0 reason to be hidden from the community, and doing so just draws the line of communication between staff and players even wider than it already has become.

+1. Crims can currently make more money by doing legal freelance jobs, which I think speaks for itself in terms of what needs to be done.

I would agree with this sentiment if the server had more script options available for storing belongings away. Currently, your safest option to avoid raids is a stash vehicle kept at a local parking lot that you never touch, which really doesn't make much RP sense in itself and is incredibly risky to take anything out. I would love to see the server give more options for storage, which could allow players to thoroughly hide and spread their vast stashes of illegal items. Just an example would be a storage rental facility, which would allow players to spend x amount per week to access their own personal storage with limited space - say 500-1000 lbs. Or another example would be a command to enable players to create a 'stash' out in the world that could be accessed similar to old house stashes - but have a short range indicator to display their location if someone were to get close enough, similar to how the world interaction options for items dropped on the floor become visible only when close to their location. At the end of the day, people are forced into making large stash houses that have to be under their characters name due to the nature of the server. This in turn, allows for people to be extremely screwed out of hundreds of hours worth of work put into their roleplay for essentially a script limitation. I personally think that detective/investigation RP is and should be a big part of the PD/Crim interactions on the server, but I do feel that as crims we have very limited realistic options for maintaining a stash of items safely.

big +1, youd make more money as a gang group fishing than you would hitting stores

-1 only giga weirdos cheat on an rp server

did you read the whole post or just the title? store robberies are dead content in their current state, end of story

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If people truly do want private labs removed - just disable them and add a refund command as many others have pointed out already. No matter what way you look at it, with the current changes to watering/filling water bottles, private labs are completely not worth it at any level. What has effectively been done has already removed private labs, but has not allowed the players with heavy investments in tables/vents to get their money back with a refund due to a complete OOC shift/change.

From February but still not fixed. https://streamable.com/bd48yr

Turns out it can/will trigger the alarm when anybody leaves - even if there are still people inside.

Maybe it is set to go off after a certain time frame of 0 people being in the house then, but still I dont think it should work like that for code 0 reasons. Also, there definitely isn't any sort of balance reason for the contract limitation, as the money generation is definitely on the low side.

not without triggering a police call - which is the issue

Currently, based off my own experience, the experience of other members of my faction, and multiple bug reports I believe that when there are 0 players left inside of a house robbery, it is deemed 'finished' - preventing any further robbery and generating a call to the police. I think this should be adjusted because 1. it doesn't really make much sense, and 2. it should allow for the entire house to be robbed by individual players - as with current weight volumes of the items stolen a solo crim NEEDS to make multiple trips in and out of the house they are robbing in order to fully rob it. My suggestion is to remove this mechanic, and instead add a WI option on the interior house door to 'Finish Robbery'. This option would make the player exit the house, and then mark it as 'finished' - thus making any leftover items unrobbable and generating a call to the police. This would allow for players to make multiple trips in and out of the house when they are solo in order to finish the robbery.

big -1. If the problem is that PD/SD get calls to 'clear' a house that was hit completely clean - then I think a system for the crims to have an option to 'finish' a house being robbed should be implemented. When a house is fully cleaned out by the person/people with the contract - they should have a UI option on the inside of the house to "finish robbery" alongside the exit house option. When this option is chosen, it would make all remaining players in the instance exit the house, despawn the dimension and clear the contract from the system/gps.