Trevor Zelias

close this already posted about ingame thx

Pretty sure this is a bug, i was drilling the safe with the new system with the 1 fail/chance thing. And it woke up after the 3rd/4th drill thing without failing and pressing spacebar at the start of the green ones so it did not go too far. Lost 20k becasue of it and saw the guy just wake up and call the cops. My shadowplay was off since I just joined the server I do not care about the 20k but in the future it might hurt the players/robberies that are going to happen. Pretty sure it is a bug and needs to be fixed asap

Just add a simple "test vehicle" and have it be 2-5 minutes at airport maxed so you can see how it preform and if you like it and all. I bet its really easy to add that into the script and make it work with a limit of 2 min test at airport or something like that.

This is great but the money sinks that used to be like raffles and such it was like MANNNYY back in the days and that helped to keep it a bit stable. And other things also that took some money. Like I know the admin raffles took like 50M+ often out of the server

Ohh, that is lovely to hear! Thank you Silky for the info about this and that it is being thought of!

But if you are a new player with hardly 10-20k and you don't have either 20k to do a house robbery or know all the labs and only work is trucking, ATM driver and so on. Stealing a car does not really work since there is /showvehicle that work if you just exit it. Borrowing is one of the hardest thing in the city if you have not met or have someone that has many cars. Because if a friend is with you in the car chase they lose their license too. Which just makes it so 2 want to leave the server if they cant get any of thier cars. and still BMX is 7.5k it is 1 hour of trucking for one bike it does not sound a lot for maybe you but for someone just starting new on ECRP it is WAY too much to pay and you can argue DCC but that cost 5k+ to go to Paleto since the fare is 300-500/mile and you're forced to pay without being able to do a dash without paying. And the DCC request says the name instantly so you get blacklisted. So it is not just "buy a bike" "buy a new car" for the person just joining and losing their new player status as it is over priced.

I do see what you mean and all with the post but one thing that would be nice and funny is if you had a small suspension for 2 or 4 hours and you have to go back to DMV and re-take it would be fun and a way to remove some money generated into ECRP: But that kind of counters the entire thing with there are no rentable cars, no NPC cars that are not boloed automatically onto MDC after 5 min. But then if it is just couple of hours of suspension they could take it out of impound pretty quickly.

Heres the thing. 24 hours is not fine when you hardly get that on any other server. People might say this is a "hard RP server". Being here since 2017 I can tell you it is not close to being rated to that. Every post/review you see is saying its low to med RP rating. There have been times where the Admin Team have done really great things and made it pick up to becoming Hard RP server but it have fallen as it either have given up on that system or I guess some internal problems. And I rather have 24 hours in jail then having my license suspended 24 hours because I'm able to take it down with stamps and all that and getting released it would just mean I'm back to RPing and being able to play. Having suspension starting at 4 hours to 8 hours and so on. Maybe using demerits as "oh you got two demerits this week that would be 8 hour suspension". Just a entire day just to drive in the server to either get a whole new day again after having it back makes people quit and makes new player dont wanna stay at all. If you pick a car people instantly call 911, if you picklock one of the NPC cars it gets auto boloed out. So there is no in between wanting to play either if you dont have 7+ cars and/or friends that have same amount of cars.

Yeah, but what I'm aiming at is not that "You and others have 7+ cars". It is more the ENTIRE server from the New players with 0 XP and base starting money (dont know what it is now exactly). And if they get a suspension they lose money from the arrest, having to try to escape in a warrner when PD have cars that go 200+ and not giving them a fair chance of escaping and getting hit with the other stuff. They dont get released and have 100k+ and 7+ cars. They most likely go to impound the PD say no and they just alt f4 never touching ECRP again that is a loss from a permanent player as a whole and the chance of him bringing in +1 friend. Not sure why people compare your storage to new players / new criminals that clearly just started here when there is servers with NPC cars and suspension just messes up a small amount for them not hindering entirely of playing on ECRP

As of lately I think PD just gets shot if they do pull someone over since the lose of licenses is just way too high for the jail time + suspension you get. You have a better chance of trying to kill the cop pulling you over. I feel as if there was a system in place where you could have the time start after the jail/prison sentence it would be great to have it be like 4 hours, 8 hours and have a max of maybe 24 hours. It is easy to just script in that /suspendlicense resets the timer if they are at max 24 hours after everything. It clearly needs an update for the system with /license /suspend (or what the command is) and just some QoL update with it. This includes the Impound and Mors.

Yeah, I do see what you mean with your post but im thinking of the entire picture and playerbase of ECRP. Many people can't afford the DCC since it is over inflated with the prices. Something that could be fixed is automated fares depending on a players xp. BMX still cost almost as much as a Warrner (BMX 7.5). Which also defeat the purpose of letting a new player not get their car and stuff back, Citybee only works if no DCC is on-duty which is a 50/50 almost at all times. EU time you defenitly can get them easier but I guess under NA/Late night you hardly can. And if you're going into the server with no friends or with a new friend you really don't have the access to a friends vehicle since there is no NPCs like FiveM has. I have played couple of FiveM and tested it out and it was one of the best things being able to drive and picklock cars without automation BOLO coming out after 5 minutes. What my post is mostly about is about the RP Health, Player health and about bringing in new players and wanting them to stay. I can almost bet money on the fact that if a player with I guess you lose New Player status still at 5k? After that get a 24 hour suspension their only warrner that was already hard enough to get is impounded they quit the server and go to another one that is friendly on the player base in a whole and new players generally.

Yeah, That is probably the thing that needs to happen but im just thinking of the long run for ECRP as Bala stated on anohter post about what stage ECRP is on and all that. I've also said couple of times that it would be cool if the devs could script in if you get jailed for 6 hours the suspension of 4 hours or something starts after as a slap on the wrist. Hopefully something will be done either with IC stuff or something small like my idea.

Not sure how this have not been changed to lower it. I can speak for many criminals that they quit after having their license suspended for 24 hours. You can't really play the main game at all. If you grab DCC and go to paleto and back if there was RP there its 20k+ A new player for example could never pay that since it is like 3+ days of work. DCC Prices are x10 the money you make as a new player or a new character. And I rather take 12 hours in jail then 24 hour suspension on my license since then I can at least get my car out after I get released. Maybe adding where you get 2-3 hours after jail would be fine. I can confirm yet again with people if you get 24 hour suspension you don't play or if you do and get caught as a passanger and get another 24 hours you basically quit the server for 2+ days. And since this is a server with no NPC/Locals you can't really take a car and actually play the main game we are playing GTA. Most FiveM servers have this making the new player just not join or ever comeback since PD loves to suspend them for 24 hours. If I were to not have like at least 3 cars and a New player I would of quit this server and not touch it ever again because of this reasoning. The prison/jail is fine they dont care about that but dont hinder them being able to play here with a 1 day suspension. And you can say "oh they have "new player" ontop of their head. You lose it after x amount of XP that takes no time to lose and when its gone they get the suspension if PD were nice when they had the tag ontop of them. This has some stuff with the "get players back and get new players." I think main reason why people dont login under 2+ days and the server pop is low is because you get 2-12 hour jail then you still can't play the game because of 1 WHOLE day suspension of the licenses. And yeah "get more cars". A new player or someone with 20-50k XP legal/criminal don't have 25k+ to spend on 5-6 different cars. And there is a mini game about this. Get suspended, wait 24 hours then you get to mini boss of getting into Impound lot then the main boss is the SD/PD and having to wait for 5-60 mintues on a cop to show up. This could easily be automated with the script checking if x amount of cops are there. If there are give them a command /noimpound if they can't come and if thise x person has no suspension release it. Almost every server in the entire GTA 5 universe if FiveM or Rage has something that help with this. TL;DR: The suspension is making current players/new players quit for x amount of time and/or forever. A fix that could be done by the Devs is lets say you go to jail you get X amount of hours. And after the release make it so you have suspended license for maybe 2-4 hours making it so you can play the game itself GTA 5 since main thing is driving around. People saying "do the crime do the time". Yes I'd say so if DCC did not cost x10 and took 5-10k going to Paleto and back would be x2. No legal/New Player job makes that within 1 week even. And if they have exact amount XP for the New Player tag removed still they dont have close to that amount. People DO QUIT because of the suspension and don't play for many days/weeks me included with this. Also if you paid 100+ EUROs for a car you dont want it to be impounded for 24 hours it is HARD earned IRL MONEY. Thanks and love, Trevor Zelias / Richard Forth xoxo

Ngl, pretty sure its PD who didnt like it and like Bala have said 200+ members in both SD and PD ofc it is majority of the server. I feel as being criminal we dont really have a word in it all since majority is SD/PD based and if there is a vote they most of the time win those polls or things.

Proof is I got my first suspension 24 hours ago and got another one like 8 hours after and still is suspended. So they defneitly stack. Since there is no time on /licenses you can't really get a picture of any of those times. Also, I was passanger of a car getting chased by criminals that had heavies, PD chased us and we had to shoot. I was a passanger and they suspended my license right there and then. As I was not even the driver it just makes no sense 24 hours for that and when u already had 24 hours for a x2 stack. Also I got the message "Police has suspended ur license" two times it said. And pretty sure it says if it /trucker/ it says trucker license I might be wrong with the EXACT text there.

I fucking love your post it is great to read and all. But I was wondering what your thought on the whole FiveM servers having mostly "You can be 8 crims in a bank robbery but PD can only be 12 or 16. I always thought that PD is overpowered when you are around 4-5 crims doing a bank/store and 15-25 PD/SD come and basically goes PVP mentallity there is a video by @GodBaer that I commented on with them having a "hostage" and PD and/or SD say over radio "oh that is a fake hostage lets start shooting". Even if "x" person says "a fake name and number" you really dont want to shout it out loud as a hostage. And OFC after that whole ordeal with PD putting spikes infront of their bikes/cars and just goes on their "winning" mentallity. Not sure if you addressed this fully or posted somewhere else. As an example that those servers have Store Robberies: 4 Crims - 8 PD Bank Robberies 8 Crims - 16 PD and so on with the many different criminal activities there are with Eclipse I feel as having /fun/ with being a crim going in with just 5 people in a bank robbery ofc expect 16 PD since that is the limit, but i feel there is almost 95% that PD will win it and criminals lose 2+ hours of their life if not Diamond-VIP. And the banks only having 1 option of exiting it is mostly "Oh we got the hostage they ALL exited time to SHOOTTTTTT". Or they either shoot tires and they get caught instantly or PD finds another reason as they are trying to escape. if they dont get shot to stack charges to 10+ hours of Roleplay Opportunities. And the fact you get rammed after 3-5 mintues of trying to escape PD you lose almost all the bank robberies if u dont stack 30 crims in there which you kind of have too to out number the 30 cops. **Example of the ramming** I was taking my criminal character and I said "fuck it lets have some fun and try to see how my Kamacho maxed goes against PD". After the 5 mins of a chase they rammed. ------- Not sure if this is also touched within the PD thought the amount of TAZING that happens. Of coruse we run and get tazed and it keeps going but INSTANTLY and people use the "bird view" of their character, Imagine being a so called "heavyRP or Medium RP" And if you were to do a /me would attempt to sneak away from the cop without him looking behind him they would do a /do No i would hear I have SUPER EARS basically. PD can't seem to lose a RP situation either. I have hardly seen any jail breaks in the 1 year I was in DOC maybe a HALF one which wasnt really happening. I never saw someone really escape from PD as rush tazing and NRP hearing and seeing with eyes in their back "oh you moved 2 meters from me tazed." "oh you entered a car as passanger apperently you open the door and exit a car IRL after". "Oh you're on a bike, tazed you get kicked of and cant lean forward". "Oh you're INSIDE A CAR GETTING PULLED OVER AND STOPPED/TRYING TO START CAR ohhh wait.. Tazed through a non-broken window and cuffed instantly (what is roleplaying them being stuck, injured, checking if there is a leak)". A bit of more text, I've been legal DOC for 1 year, EMS for 1 year and Bayview not sure 1,5 years on my legal char. And I can say that DOC is most under-cared by everyone execpt the high command there mad respect for them but sadly as you said they are not "main focusing" on the faction anymore. I've had a Acedemy pending now for 1 week (not their fault) and yet no msg about it. A person cancelled his reasoning being IRL stuff and that is 110% understandable but then they have no back-up for it and yet I have not gotten a update after a week. Hope my ADHD brain did not confuse you too much to respond Bala once again 10/10 post you did just some stuff I wanted your view on here as it does effect the player base and criminal scene and PD scene. EDIT: Just wanted to also talk and see what your thought is of 24 HOURS (IRL) suspension of license on here. I just feel as if you get 24 hours they stack another 24 hours its 2 days of you basically quitting the server making the as the OG Poster said "low pop". Having it be 24 hours you really dont play becasue if you do and get caught driving a car you get "whats left"+24 hours. Then you really quit dont login at all onto Eclipse. I rather take 12 hours in jail then having my license be suspended 24 hours and u cant take your car out, cant drive basically making it so you cant play the server. And if you have a friend that is with you in the robbery they get 24 hours aswell making it REALLY less that you play. Any day I'd take 8-12 hours jail because you can work that down in DOC with liter and washing. I've quit the server for longer than that also because you don't feel like getting suspended 24 hours again because of some bullshit removing key-part of GTA 5 people can say "there is DCC". Yeah pay 5k+ to drive to paleto and stand there. If you have a legal job suspended for the amount you get there so can't really do anything if you are legal. Your cars are stuck for 24 hours + 24 hours again and maybe more making it so you cant even evovle your character roleplay experience. And EXAMPLE when its suspended and lets say you pay for DCC (as legal): Oh let me go to Paleto and RP there a bit 5k, (half legal paycheck for 1 hour on-duty). "" OHHH FUCK no one is here "" *calls DCC again* "Take me to Bennys". 5k+ there (i think even more since its from city to outside city). Ah fuck only few mechanics there. *Sees an AD "Party at Sandys* *calls DCC* pay 5k or something*. You enter the party get charged as entry fee there fucking fine there is a raffel you had 30k it cost 5k to enter raffel is 20k. You wanna join but you paid 15k+ on DCC and only have 5k left. (basically 5+ hours on duty in a faction as lowest rank.) I always thought suspending licenses for 24 hours is way too long then getting a jail for 3-4 hours rather have it be reversed if I were myself because then I can go out and take my car from Impound.

Thanks for the supports and +1 I really do hope they look into making this a thing. Been some decent ideas for a long time.

Since the community is reciving some new amazing updates lately. This I would like to get review again. Read through it and some points are amazing. Could be re-written into todays (server needs). But still many good things I posted here back in 2021 and would like to get this to the top of suggestions again

This would be good for some kind of balance but at the same time not. Since PD already do get either their guns for free, armor for free and fuel, repairs and such. Such as criminals currently have to pay for everything. If there is gonna be a "legal" side of the effects they should be like a 5% of what the criminals get. And there is no rule against PD stacking(that im aware of) 20 people against 2 robbing a store. I think this balances the problem a lot of criminals have with getting zerged by PD and making them able to either run, escape or fight. I've only played in LEO factions in the server but I do see the problems the criminals have as I stated. This is the buff the criminals could have that PD dont get anything from. And yes "PD is gov faction and get guns and body armor from gov, free repairs and all". Amazing update also Proud of the dev team being more open and working on more updates.

I offer $50k and a hotdog from a store.

only love u know it The best Warden there been is you indeed

This was once a thing where you had to press like alt or something to see the name. It was good and bad the same time since some people made AHK for having it always pressed in or either how I found out you could do it was tab out with the button pressed and it kept it that way until either you pressed it again and such. And I've also played couple of servers where you have to remember faces. I feel as many times its good since people go and change their face 99% of the time. And if you are kind of a person that forgets faces or have a hard time reading how someone looks. It is good how the server is now, but what I would love to see is not to remove names over players character just add so if I for example have remember using a EXAMPLE name now but... Jason Steel (Idiot Pig ingame) or.. Solomon Cobb (Worst DOC Warden 01) etc etc. And they go and change their face at the hospital it automatically gets removed if they maybe pay another extra "New Look New Me" fee (Another way to get some money away from the server also). Lets say 50-100k ontop of the first price since plastic surgery right now only changes look but cant really "act a new person" since /alias (id) (name) is kept after this Phones you can get a new number at the store and have it completely reseted with the buy of a new one, no contacts, new number etc etc. Should not be impossible to add some small codes to plastic surgery also Hope yall like my example

Really good answer and I do see what you mean by this fully, as yes a Trello with it and such if something fail or just messes up fair like the Bank update. And onto the Event thing yes admins sees the whole picture with invis and specating what was happening seeing if X shot X for no reason. A civilian got shot here by X person and such it probably MOST likely happen and hence why I said we need more of a rule with the events and such where it wont happen instead of completely removing the entire thing that was planned and such. I feel as its been 1+ year now since last event with crim and PD having these (maybe?). But I have my OWN thought and feelings with this that it should really be tested again to make the server more alive then it currently is adding more "daily happenings" with the city like some FiveM servers have (might be a limit since we are on Rage) power cutting off since I remember (might be server bugged the fuck out) but all lights and such was off imagine making a admin planned robbery with scripts and such with this. I really want a "monthly, weekly and Daily changes" Like just the Event Team and Devs work together making maybe one road have a real "oil leak" might be HARD/IMPOSSIBLE to make where it is under consucuction with some scripted things instead of just /placeblockade or what the command was. Just more activity within the server. Hope I made clear what I wanted to get out might make 0 sense.