SaltyPython

I really, truly don't care when it's said to me - I've been RPing since SAMP, 2008/9, I've heard it thousands of times, I'll hear it some more - I just think that the pros here outweigh the cons straight up, the chance you seriously affect someone is not worth the extra "personality" you give to your character by telling someone to commit suicide which, c'mon, level with me here, when it's said - it's mainly said to try to get a rise out of people or make them feel bad. I also personally feel like you're a bad roleplayer if you have to resort to saying "kill yourself" when your character is angry, be more inventive y'know? Anyways, appreciate your opinion - genuinely, it's an important discussion to have.

Roleplay servers tend to attract people who want to escape real life for some reason or another, and those people may already have a fragile state of mind coming in. That's just how it is, some people use this server as a form of escapism from horrible shit in their lives already. Just because you're someone who has suffered from depression and is not affected by something like this, does not mean that anyone else with depression won't be affected by someone telling them to go kill themselves. Saying this is natural selection is needlessly cruel - people can't choose what they get affected by. 99 times out of 100, whenever I've heard "go kill yourself" in a roleplay scenario, it comes from someone who is particularly salty after some aggravating situation they were just in, no, they aren't "enriching" their character in any way by telling someone to end themselves, they're just letting off steam after "losing". Most times. Not admitting this and trying to pretend as if it's some "cool" aspect of your character is disingenuous. Personally, someone screaming "kill yourself" into their mic to me? I don't give a shit, I actually get a kick out of it. However, as a community, shouldn't we be mindful of its other members? As Bala and a few other people have said, you don't know what someone is dealing with behind that screen, whether it's recurring anxiety or depression/suicidal tendecies, or an event that has caused the former to occur. As mentioned before, some people use this server as escapism. I don't know whether it should be banned - maybe it should - but it should definitely be limited, and the admin team should at least look on a case-by-case basis at blatant efforts by players to try to distress someone. It's very obvious when that's the case - just like when someone says the gay f slur or the n-word. In general, it should be discouraged. IMO anyways, I'm not even an active member here but yknow whatever, this is an interesting topic, and seeing some people's replies here being so uncaring toward their fellow people is fucking disheartening.

The questions are really quite easy and do-able if you research even a little bit into how RP works in GTA. You will find similar hurdles in other allowlist-only RP servers, unless you go to a non-allowlist one - in which case you'll have a very subpar, barely-RP experience. I recommend reading the guides @Yputi has recommended above if you decide to come back to this forum!

you boutta make me make another "state of state of" thread giorgos also, shit, are we the reason the pier is dead now???

don't see it, sounds like lies to me mister umbra mister umbra

please stop naming serious threads as "The State Of *whatever the fuck*", if people keep doing it I'll create another "The State Of The State Of" thread, I swear to Ganesha

Prefacing this by saying that I no longer regularly play (any RP at all), and that I really do appreciate the amount of effort, as well as how difficult it is to maintain a codebase, speaking as a software engineer, and you guys do a lot of work. With this being said, I don't really see why you can't entrust your codebase. You should know that the more eyes there are on a codebase, the higher quality it is, and the more updates it can get. It's not like you guys are inventing some super niche thing, you guys have an RP server - of which there are many out there. But you guys have the secret ingredient - an active, loyal playerbase that seems to be shrinking. Think about it - even if your codebase leaks, who cares? Obviously it would suck, but it's not as catastrophic as you'd think because your users are here and not elsewhere mainly because of other people, the ones that frequent this server. If your updates stagnate, it will inevitably drive away people and you will also lose this secret ingredient this server has, and then you will have nothing. Plus, even if it takes a long time to train someone on your code, it's ALWAYS worth it to do so because that's an extra person that knows it and can teach it to someone new on the team. Please, please, please, accept more people into the development team. I may not play here anymore, but I love the people here. For the long-term sustainability of your community, it drastically needs a better script that meets the growing needs of your playerbase. Other servers (such as a particularly well known text-based only one) have many more devs, and an application process, and they're doing very well. And also, they have much more to lose because they're the only popular text-based RP server, and yet they're not worried about their codebase to the same extent. So what will it take to realize that you absolutely need to get more devs onboard? For your sakes, I hope you don't realize it when it's too late.

This is an IC issue that requires an OOC solution - i.e., script support around removing cars from the impound. I can tell you from both sides of the coin that cops tend to not enjoy unimpounding vehicles because it's repetitive and offers no stimulating roleplay 99% of the time - and that civillians don't enjoy it because they can wait genuine hours to take their vehicle out which is a pain in the ass - you're playing the game to have fun, not to sit around with a thumb up yer ass. Script support would help both sides.

GiorgosK? More like SimposK

"Walter." "I want your redacted"

Cops IRL rarely get charged, so the court system thing is pretty equivalent! As for a fair IA system...well, people do get suspended, and sometimes fired,.. uh, and that's all that happens. Just like American cops! I am getting a little preachy here, sorry. Yeah, server rules are in place to stop DM and whatnot - if you feel like something has broken the rules, you are free to report on the forums OOCly. I think most issues are dealt with quite well on a case-by-case basis, seriously guys - when cops are ICly punished here, it can derail genuine months of effort. People complain that cops don't have anything to lose and crims do, but cops seriously do have shit to lose. It derails promotions which allow access to cooler stuff to do, it can outright prevent you from progressing past a certain point, and I have seen people straight up quitting (the faction/the server) due to hitting this obstacle. Papadakis has explained quite well how the escalation tends to go to the point where shots are fired from cops, and as Bala mentioned, the force continuum here is really quite strict compared to LAPD's (the server's IRL counterpart). My point is, if you have an issue with a situation, feel free to ICly report or OOCly report as appropriate. Last time I checked, both IA and the staff team were genuinely quite good at handling cases/reports. by the way, it's wanton, not wonton. Wonton is something delicious.

Yeah, so like anyone saw the recent video of the LAPD cop shooting at a dude with a bike lock and killing him, as well as the 14 year old girl (fatally) in the dressing room behind the dude? (side note: the LAPD fucking sucks.) The realism argument doesn't really work here. LAPD causes needless death on stuff that doesn't require lethal force aaaall the time. With that being said, drive-by shootings, taking tires etc is pretty unrealistic for the most part as even LAPD wouldn't do that. I do think that if you're running around with a gun, or you do anything other than not immediately following a cop's orders (especially on foot, especially if they've got a gun on you), then you being shot should seriously not be surprising, especially if we're trying to portray a realistic American police force.

I like how your job is being garbage because that's my job IRL too