Far Posted July 9, 2020 Report Posted July 9, 2020 The past week I have been contacted in different days and different times by about 2 or 3 my friends asking me to help them retrieve their RV that was stolen while they were entering it or that they were chased and asked to unlock their RV that was full of ores after mining for like 2 or 4 hours straight, of course we go look for it everywhere to no avail. And because I work at LSC, we get a lot of requests from people who their RVs were stolen and destroyed in the same way. I want to know if there is a rule about doing such an act because it is a unfair for someone to work for 2 or 4 hours OOCly only so that someone could wait for them to enter their RV then drive it before the owner locks it from the inside. This is completely unfair because some entering an RV takes sometime to render the door and the lock option so the thieves here would be exploiting that fact to their advantage and accordingly ruin someone's day or pushing him to completely quit the server, another incident that I saw was a guy here in the Discussions section talking about how his day goes while trying to make money from hunting animals, his name is Xan go check his thread. I ended up being the mechanic that tows his Trophy Truck and when i talked to him he told me that it wasn't actually the first time this happened and that his car was stolen just a few days before and also completely destroyed so that it was gonna cost him about 12 13k to repair. So what do you guys think about this topic? I have a suggestion that may be of help an it's that the owner of the RV should have the ability to enter his RV without unlocking it because even if a rule exists to prevent people from stealing RVs that are used in mining ores or oil, it is really hard to gain evidence that this happened to you or know who did it so you can report him.
Dax Posted July 9, 2020 Report Posted July 9, 2020 Entering your own RV without unlocking does not sound realistic at all and to bypass the fact that rendering the door takes some time, perhaps they should add a timer when entering an RV just the same as you enter the house. 1
MPheonix Posted July 9, 2020 Report Posted July 9, 2020 Should be “K” to lock/unlock car doors and house doors 1
Rukicake Posted July 9, 2020 Report Posted July 9, 2020 waiting for someone to unlock and getting in is poor rp. fc him ive experienced this 4 times and lost atleat 300k odd cash if i calculate all together 2 1
Whitney Posted July 9, 2020 Report Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) There was one time where I unlocked my RV and some random player just went in and started looking through my safes and taking everything without RP'ing going in the RV and asking if I would block the door/try to push him out before he goes in, he then went in the bathroom and clicked the 'Access' button and locked himself there and then started OOC flaming. But yes! RV trespassing should be roleplayed with the owner, going in just like that is poor RP and the system for RVs is annoying, if you can't park it in the public garage, then you should be able to park it in your house's garage (But you can't and I don't even know why even though it can fit). Also, thieves usually abuse their abilities by going after RV owners because they do know that its system is broken and sucks and they're drastically slow. Edited September 2, 2020 by Asterisk 1
Swattpup1989 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Posted July 10, 2020 So we have been dealing with this for a few days ICly with one of our guys. There is a group of people camping the mines waiting for people to go inside them to deposit the ore into safes. Upon the person going inside, the people hop in the front seat and drive the RV off. Upon exitting the RV they are greeted by a group of guys pointing guns at them. I will advise everyone as I advised my guy, start recording and then report it. There are Admin Markers stating robbing at the mining area isnt allowed......without proof or reports happening, nothing can be done on an OOC level. 1
Whitney Posted July 14, 2020 Report Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Edited September 2, 2020 by Asterisk 1
ObviousChair Posted July 21, 2020 Report Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) why don't you form a private military company and cleanse the server of robbers? sounds pretty fun Edited July 21, 2020 by ObviousChair
Whitney Posted July 21, 2020 Report Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) Edited September 2, 2020 by Asterisk 1
Dalton1 Posted July 21, 2020 Report Posted July 21, 2020 I think when entering an rv there should be that bar animation where it says like Entering RV like that bar when you enter a house if you get what i mean. Because what most people do that like to steal miner's rv is they run up to innocent miners rv and when he goes inside they just spam /enterrv.. Unfortunately still to this day even with the rules there is people still trying to get in to peoples rv's at mines , it is really annoying. 1
ObviousChair Posted July 23, 2020 Report Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 5:00 PM, MsBonBonnxx said: And why don't illegal characters play fair? RP should be done with whoever that is in the RV if what the op said actually happened. if they aren't playing fair with you, you shouldn't be playing fair with them. just attack them on sight the next time you see someone doing this 1
Far Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Posted July 23, 2020 11 hours ago, ObviousChair said: if they aren't playing fair with you, you shouldn't be playing fair with them. just attack them on sight the next time you see someone doing this I understand what you are saying and I get where you're coming from but we shouldn't fight rule breakers with more rule breaking instead, discussions like these make people more aware of how to properly RP and give us ideas on how to deal with situations like these and ideas to prevent the exploitation of the rules like the idea to make a loading bar for entering RVs and much more useful thoughts
RelaxingVibe Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 yeh man this hit home, i was a victim in the same scenario. hell, i've put an entire weekend into this job simulator just to get wiped in 15 minutes cuz a guy is bored, armed, and doesn't give consent to death rp. no remorse was shown, so im just ducking off the server for a few days
Itzsonzy Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 Honestly, is very much an IC issue. The criminal world is very unforgiving and believe me, it used to be much worse. Top Tip: Be very, very careful. No one wants to spend 3 days mining to loose it all and the 1 thing you can do to stop it is just look around. If someones watching you go in and out of your RV, chances are you should just wait for them to get bored and drive off. Better yet; just hide your keys or get a mining buddy to go in first as bait / be able to cover you. To ellaborate on the first comment; i started on the server getting robbed everywhere. Clothing stores, barbers, any roads around hunting & mines... and dont get me started on the fact that the mines on several occasions would just become a bloodbath. Hopefully you bois will learn from these bad experiences so you dont have to be put off the server because of it 1
Far Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Posted July 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Itzsonzy said: Honestly, is very much an IC issue. The criminal world is very unforgiving and believe me, it used to be much worse. Top Tip: Be very, very careful. No one wants to spend 3 days mining to loose it all and the 1 thing you can do to stop it is just look around. If someones watching you go in and out of your RV, chances are you should just wait for them to get bored and drive off. Better yet; just hide your keys or get a mining buddy to go in first as bait / be able to cover you. To ellaborate on the first comment; i started on the server getting robbed everywhere. Clothing stores, barbers, any roads around hunting & mines... and dont get me started on the fact that the mines on several occasions would just become a bloodbath. Hopefully you bois will learn from these bad experiences so you dont have to be put off the server because of it I believe that this issue has an OOC side too, because the rules say that you can't rob players at the mine including hijacking their RV while they enter it but at the same time when someone enter's the RV after the owner and holds him on gun point then takes the RV keys off of him RPly the admins say it's allowed or "good RP" while hopping into an RV and driving away is not allowed so the admins themselves are indecisive, my point is that if the rules that they put restrict you from robbing/stealing RVs at the mine or at the drop off it doesn't mean anything if the system doesn't prevent it or have an effective way of responding to these incidents so that the victim doesn't go through much hassle to prove that he was robbed and then go through the process of a refund that will most likely be rejected due to the difficulty of calculating the losses. it can be prevented easily by putting a loading bar for entering RVs and just simply announce or make a clear rule about the situations that might not appear like it is restricted at first sight, another example is stealing a vehicle at the gas station while refueling, it is not allowed yet there is no broad and clear rule about it. I agree with the part that you have to be careful while entering and that there are ways to make it difficult for robbers to steal your RV like the examples you gave but why waste time trying to prevent something that is not allowed but you have to be careful because you might get robbed anyways, it surely does put people off the server but not because they RP poorly, they might be great at RPing but get frustrated by such incidents and leave the server
TheCactus Posted July 30, 2020 Report Posted July 30, 2020 It's like when people were using the elevator Non-RPly, spamming it from a floor to another so police can't catch them.
