Remove script that makes peeking with weapon.

[Sarahh]

Hallo, thank you for working hard on the server and the script, but...

We've never seen this idea suggested before, and we don't know whose idea it was to add a script that disables players from peeking with weapons.
In my opinion, this script would mostly affect players on the Criminal side.
Imagine having to face 20 cops without any way to cover your body, while they’re equipped with MGs, MK2s with 150 AP , and snipers  all while you're unable to take cover.

I would just say this isn’t even fair play for the criminal side anymore, especially for players who want to enjoy it.

[exaal]

+1 shit aint fair

Edited June 6, 2025 by exaal

[Flaviosas]

I would love to add some stuff on this, if you wanna make it fair for everyone you have to remove snipers and thermals, stop having gnd undercover rolling labs and baiting demands, heli is a good add for a bank robbery or something big , not a simple traffic stop.

As a criminal we dont wanna fight cops but when they do show up they insta start shooting you so you're forced to fight back, to be honest its not fair fighting snipers and 175 AP and cant even have right hand peek or headpeek.

[Rage.]

yeah i mean im not gonna lie i hate the update but it's for the better. truthfully speaking it's not that hard to not face check the cops. dont fight cops at all

i dont wanna die randomly from a ghost peak in .1 seconds from a combat mg mk2. this update atleast allows the more "skilled" players to compete against hard pushes instead of just dying from somewhere you cant even shoot back from

[HobGoblin]

At least give it time to try the update in fights before going to the forums to remove it.

[alexalex303]

you can take just as much cover as the cops can

and criminals have better guns and AP than cops, this was already talked about, criminals have had weeks to stockpile 200 APs which even cops do not have access to

perhaps it's not a good idea to base your entire gameplay strategy around head glitching and other glitches

[Billy Valentine]

I do in a sense agree on the part of, no one has suggested this so why add it? 

I personally think this change could be quite good, but I really do hope to see more changes come in the near future that people are actively suggesting and getting upvotes on.
If just a small amount of time was put into reading over some of the bigger suggestions that people are commenting on quite often I think some really good updates / changes could be made to the server that make it more fun and enjoyable for all types of roleplayers! 

[Flaviosas]

not everyone got the 150 APS* alex only 2 gangs or 3 and cops has 175AP, ignore the right hand peek and head peek , read the other stuff about heli and gnd.
- nerf mk2 guns damage

 

[alexalex303]

Just now, Flaviosas said:

not everyone got the 150 APS* alex only 2 gangs or 3 and cops has 175AP, ignore the right hand peek and head peek , read the other stuff about heli and gnd.
- nerf mk2 guns damage

 

200 AP. criminals have had access to get as many 200 APs as they wished, that is more than ANY pd unit. not 175, 200.

[Diligo]

1 minute ago, alexalex303 said:

criminals have had weeks to stockpile 200 APs which even cops do not have access to

turns out is not real what you say. not entirely.

but if we on topic, this is a good change and i am -1 for this forum post suggestion

[Billy Valentine]

1 minute ago, alexalex303 said:

200 AP. criminals have had access to get as many 200 APs as they wished, that is more than ANY pd unit. not 175, 200.

I hate to turn this into a back and forth thread right off the bat, but I think you're GREATLY overestimating how many AP's people actually got and even better, how many people actually got ahold of these AP's. I don't know how long you think criminals had access to order these AP's but it was not long and If I'm correct staff have gone through and changed the AP's all from 200 to 175.

4 minutes ago, Flaviosas said:

- nerf mk2 guns damage

All MK2 guns need to be deleted from the server and never brought back.

[exaal]

1 minute ago, alexalex303 said:

you can take just as much cover as the cops can

and criminals have better guns and AP than cops, this was already talked about, criminals have had weeks to stockpile 200 APs which even cops do not have access to

perhaps it's not a good idea to base your entire gameplay strategy around head glitching and other glitches

Just saying not every crim has 200 ap bro since that shit is expensive and only few gangs have access to them. 
,,Criminals have better guns than cops" crims can definetly go up in the sky pull out a Carbine MK2 or a sniper and start shooting people from the sky. Crims definetly have at least 20 people at all times to fight cops Keep in mind 95% of the time only like 5 of em gonna have AP and a good gun. Since I never saw cops push a lab or something without having at least 15 people on it.

But you perhaps its a good idea to remove the only fighting chance crims have against cops

[Spizor]

It's unfair because you can no longer shoot at someone while not being visible to them?

[exaal]

2 minutes ago, Spizor said:

It's unfair because you can no longer shoot at someone while not being visible to them?

yes its been in the game for like 10 years noone had issues with it. But a LEO prolly complained he got killed so it got removed

Oh and what you can do if someone is holding a right hand just dont push or if hes behind a car or someshit just go from the other side so you have the advantage

Edited June 6, 2025 by exaal

[alexalex303]

Just now, exaal said:

,,Criminals have better guns than cops" crims can definetly go up in the sky pull out a Carbine MK2 or a sniper and start shooting people from the sky. 

interview?

[exaal]

Just now, alexalex303 said:

interview?

ask around see if people have saw or done that at least 1 time in the span of a year

Shit you sent happens once in a year

[Spizor]

Can someone help me understand how a script that was implemented to affect the whole playerbase being directed to Crim v LEO?

[Alexx.]

1 minute ago, exaal said:

yes its been in the game for like 10 years noone had issues with it. But a LEO prolly complained he got killed so it got removed

i dont understand how you are calling this a LEO complaint, its literally a thing that affects both sides and allows for fair exchanges in fights instead of being beamed through walls and crates from a ghost. Update has been out for an hour and we already got a suggestion about it, give things some time to try them out and then make a suggestion, cause the way i see it right now your only argument here is "PD buff" while its EXACTLY the same thing for both sides.

 

42 minutes ago, Sarahh said:

without any way to cover your body

I think you are confused, you are not able to shoot through stuff while your body is hidden. You can take cover and actually use your skill and your surroundings for better cover and to get an advantage over the opps not just shoot them through a box and call it a day.

[Rage.]

16 minutes ago, Spizor said:

Can someone help me understand how a script that was implemented to affect the whole playerbase being directed to Crim v LEO?

because we lose an advantage that we had over an already advantage-oriented faction !

[Spizor]

1 minute ago, Rage. said:

because we lose an advantage that we had over an already advantage-oriented faction !

An advantage is to be able to freely shoot at someone while being pretty much invisible to them? This makes no sense to me. This whole topic is based around a mentality that shouldn't exist.

What if it was cops the ones holding and criminals had to push. And you got right hand peeked or head peeked by 4 different people that you couldn't even see and died instantly. Would that be fun for you? Or would you have appreciated the script change?

[exaal]

18 minutes ago, Alexx. said:

i dont understand how you are calling this a LEO complaint, its literally a thing that affects both sides and allows for fair exchanges in fights instead of being beamed through walls and crates from a ghost. Update has been out for an hour and we already got a suggestion about it, give things some time to try them out and then make a suggestion, cause the way i see it right now your only argument here is "PD buff" while its EXACTLY the same thing for both sides.

look bro go on crim and try face checking a cop with 200 AP and a combat MG mk2 see how that works out for you. 

[HobGoblin]

Just now, exaal said:

look bro go on crim and try face checking a cop with 200 AP and a combat MG mk2 see how that works out for you. 

You act like all cops have 200 AP and a combat MG Mk2. You don't know what you're talking about. Idk how a topic about a new script turns into cops being OP.

[exaal]

Just now, HobGoblin said:

You act like all cops have 200 AP and a combat MG Mk2. You don't know what you're talking about. Idk how a topic about a new script turns into cops being OP.

you saying cops are not OP?

[Rage.]

6 minutes ago, Spizor said:

What if it was cops the ones holding and criminals had to push. And you got right hand peeked or head peeked by 4 different people that you couldn't even see and died instantly. Would that be fun for you? Or would you have appreciated the script change?

i support the change, i dont know why you're trying to suggest that i dont. i already made my point in an earlier comment. however i do understand where other people come from when the only thing we had an upper-hand on to the police is now removed. now i have to swing 10 cops with the best kit on the server and instantly die with little to no chance of winning. but of course cops are always suppose to win, right?

anyways, huge difference. if i had smoke grenades, tear gas, thermals, heli's, and any mk2 on the server i want to have without the risk of losing it permanently, plus another faction for backup, aint really hard to get them off their ghost peaks gang

Edited June 6, 2025 by Rage.

[AnnoyingOne]

Both sides have advantage on each other.

Cops are generally in higher numbers and better equipped. (I am looking at  crim with Pistol .50 vs a cop with Pistol MK2 and Armor), but the crims have the advantage of being able to shoot first and can fight easier in hit and run tactics.

Ever since the weapon damage change and Rage weapon sync, let's be honest, you can kill cops in seconds and if a cop is not paying attention or doing something, you will get them low before they even have a chance to react.

You just need to utilize the fact that you shouldn't be in a stationary fight against cops, use your vehicles to do hit and run tactics.