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1 hour ago, Brixton said:
I understand where your coming from but this is flat out just asking way to much. I dont see this NONRP either, someone has to log off they have to log off. No RP needed. Especially the PD? Why should Officers be able to log out at the PD? A lot of PD stations in the US actually hold housing for some officers.
Yeah for sure. I get that. If you got to go you got to go. It's just amazing the amount of people that seem to make it to the parking garage, just as they have to go.
Viewing several comments throughout this thread yeah I'm starting to believe the very notion of asking people to help collective set new and better RP trends on the server is asking too much.
However, I will continue to try, but you may actually be right tbf.
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27 minutes ago, GWXCORE said:
I make it a habit to log off in bushes and such. Or at Bayview when I was a mechanic. But given your thread, I think I'm gonna stop doing that now. I'm not going to ask anyone else to change their behaviors. But your thread has given me one more idea on how to improve my own roleplay, and I look forward to more suggestions on improving my own roleplay.
I will still be logging out in bushes when I have to take an emergency poop or whatever. And I don't think that's what @padpilot meant. He means, at least I think so, logging out every single day at parking lot or PD or whatever, is kinda nonRP. And I agree on that point. If you own a house, maybe log out there when time permits.
Yeah pretty much this. (If you have time) just out a bit more effort into your RP,allow more time for the logging off process and make sure not to vanish in the NCZ's, hotspots, parking lots etc.
And I asked those withing positions of authority as, imo, those leaders who have great numbers under them, hold the responsibility to lift the level of RP, for all of us.
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11 minutes ago, A N G E L said:
Sorry a but strong -1 for me, I roleplay in a legal faction, MD to be exact and as always I roleplay being on call. This just means that my character personally is usually idle in one of the rooms or asleep under the table or even within the proximity of the Hospital. I also roleplay doing paperwork off-duty so if I see or hear someone speaking to me I roleplay with them. As per usual if I cannot entertain them for their roleplay I say so saying, "Sorry Sir/Miss, I am about to fly out of town or I'm about to take a rest in the on-call room. Come back another time or I can direct you to someone who may be able to help."
Also as its been quoted in the comments before IRL > RP. If you got to go, you got to go. As long as you are not in an active roleplay or that you have at least let the other party know that you cannot entertain them at the meantime. It also depends who you are roleplaying with, I personally even when I'm about to log off if someone stops me for a quick medical rp, I roleplay it.
If you want to roleplay going home - go home and log out, but this also comes with the risk potential roleplay of getting robbed or house raided then do so just adding to the time when you should be attending a school pickup or back to IRL work. Even if you are about to log off or that you explained to the other party that you got to go. I promise you, there would endless reports of Non-RP - Logging off, because they had to go and they didn't want to RP.Not generally pointing it on anyone but there would be cases where the "Player" lives at home and would need to do chores, help around the house, homework/schoolwork, childrearing, dinner time. In which case even if they say, "I cannot pause the game!", well they have to log off else it will be a slipper to the face.
It is worrying how many people consider what I wrote an attempt to control someone real life. This is in no what what I am suggesting.
I fear now any further attempts by myself such as this would result in the same misguided replies and arguments and it is this level of RP that will result in the RP level of eclipse following its current trajectory, whatever you believe that to be.
Personally, I just leave 10 minutes before my game session (Obviously if IRL allows me) and I go home move away from other players.
Worrying, very worrying.
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2 hours ago, Asiantator said:
Ok so say like a week ago I had to log off right outside LSC as I had gotten a phone call from my sons school that he had fallen and dislocated his arm. But you know. the important thing is ensuring that I drive the 15 minutes to my house at the speed limit, because RP, and only then rush to my sons school and take him to the hospital. My apologies for ruining your immersion.
Ok wow. Who ever puts games before IRL that is not what I am suggesting, I am suggesting heads of factions/groups or any collection of people should help to promote a higher standard with regards to logging off.
Nodody is suggesting your ignore your IRL duties, why would you even think that's what I was suggesting.
Very random mate. The fact you made this as your argument against my attempts to highten RP on the server is both annoying and just plain random bro lol
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An organization for the people of Los Santos.
EDIT: RP Drastically changed so now rewriting.
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18 minutes ago, MohammedAli said:
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40 minute court-battle to reduce a 20 minute to a 10 minute sentence.
We'll just be making things longer and longer.
I agree the RP will be fun but it just doesn't fit in.
Read the comments and suggestions.
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On 9/11/2019 at 1:56 PM, John_Hoover said:
I have not seen a starving faction yet. I would point you into the direction of previous comments stated above. As many suggestions have been made to make it more appealing. Also I have stated multiple times above in regards to the court not being a faction and simply just having a few appointed officials at DOC to negotiate with lawyers. I also agreed to say that only serious offenses would be held in court (10 + hours ooc) and also I saw above that jail times could be served with a chance of being refunded if the case is won. The server is growing in numbers and several people want to be in a faction. As with any faction thorough back ground checks are made..
It's gonna be hard to even convince people. Unfortunately the server has a lot of older players that have convinced themselves that certain things are just not doable, all this does it stop newer players from trying things themselves.
Stuff like this is doable, I mean, the zeta, the triads and the wanted control roungly 150, if people worked together collectively we can make eclipse a much better place to RP. Unfortunately you will find that convincing other players to join/help you is the hardest part as many will just shoot you down . Keep cracking on though mate. You have my support for sure my man.
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I've only been back for a few days but it I've very clear to see that I'm soms regards RP is reaching a very new low.
Please faction leaders of criminals and legal stop allowing you guys to randomly log off wherever they want. It's very low RP and it's taking the piss.
Outside bank, outside zeta store, outside PD, LSC car park, behind the bank.
Go home FFS, get in your car and drive home. If you do not have a home then RP something else. It is very very poo to allow police officer s to log off right outside the police station.
So I my suggestipn is new policy and way of thinking from faction heads and leaders which asks all players to stop logging off in and around there jobs.
Again, this is very very low RP however it seems to be the culture of the server. Only faction heads and leaders can change this as they have influence over their members.
People don't just dissapers, sort it out people it's getting a bit of a joke now for what is meant to be the most hardcore server around.
Edit: this was aimed and directed at gang leaders, legal faction leaders and other in authoritive positions, as a way to directly change the culture of the server, whilst negating the need for a rule or direct policy which is able of monitoring such actions. Leaders lead, it's that simple.
By directing this culture change at said people, this provides argument against several points mentioned by others responses.
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Main argument against "hold the right to log off in a timely fashion due to IRL"
Please keep in mind that this is a game. Please refrain from making this your counter argument as IRL always comes first,anyone who knows me will say The Rebels understand that well. I ask that you think about the RP change without IRL very obviously taking priority over any video game.
Second argument against
"Prioritizing time"
This is in no way a counter argument to setting new trends to improve RP. Just go off duty 10 minutes early, leave work 10 minutes early or anything. This is YOUR RP experiance and imo, treating your work like work and home like home should improve everyones RP.
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1 hour ago, Aldarine said:
The thing is that once in a downed state, your health bar is actively decreasing meaning you are in the process of dying. That takes priority over whatever injury you decide to RP. Once a medic gets on scene and is able to stop the health decrease, you are free to then RP whatever injury you please (while still being realistic). In all actuality, people should be thinking heavily of what injuries they are roleplaying instead of trying to take the easy way out. A player slams their bike into a light post, is in a downed state and has their health bar seconds from empty, and they roleplay a broken leg with no bleeding, bruising, and no other injuries to the body? Now how does that make sense for an injury when your life is draining before your eyes? What about a twisted ankle? I'm 99.9% sure that won't kill you either but we have compromise which is why injuries like this are allowed. I will again state that the time between being put in a downed state and a medic arriving should be viewed by all players as the most vulnerable and frightening state they can possibly be in due to the fact that their life may be over any moment. If there was any form of required acceptance for a downed player robbery this would only result in stalled rp. Also, think about this... if there was an acceptance, what would prevent every single person from roleplaying a twisted ankle after they threw themselves off of a building just so they have grounds to resist? That's opening a whole new can of worms and giving a green light for massive non-rp behavior.
very true point, how long would someone usually be in a downed state for before dying ? or does this vary significantly??
Your point is a very valid one, maybe something within the mechanics may, in the future, be tweaked to alllow for an added "slot" of RP to be introduced into the server. So maybe all downed players start with the same health, and this downed state lasts for 10 minutes, could this allow for more RP to be inserted into where there is currently none? -
On 9/8/2019 at 5:47 PM, LiveTrash said:
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It would be too easy for someone to continue to deny the looting process if they don't want their items stolen. As has been mentioned, they should be fearing for their life more than their items. Yes it's annoying if someone runs up and just presses " i " to loot you, it's happened to me numerous times, but it's just how it is. Being as careful as possible to not get in a downed state is all you can do.
This is just low level RP and encourages other to do the same. If you can speak on a radio when downed, call medical services or speak to people then there is a very good chance you can move and defend yourself (to a degree) within the same situation. Also, being downed, why would you fear for your life, just because someone is approacxhing you or anything, depends where you are, what weapon they have, are their other pedestrians around, have you called emergency services already etc etc. Fearing for your life is a bit extreme if you only have a busted ankle, ofc if you came out of a window a 110 mph then you should RP that and in that instanmce ofc would have no control over your possesions, but that is not always the case.
To stop people from stalling then leave the scripts out of it and keep it all RP. if you go to rob someone and they say /do my legs are hurt but arms are functioning then play around it,, ask them their injuries and play around them, threaten to jujmp on their legs if they dont give you their stuff, do something, anything other than just walking up to them and looting them. its just silly to b inches away from someone sound of mind, speaking to you, arms fully working whilst they sit there, quietly being robbed being unable to do anything, when moments later a paramedic is like /do attempts to help the man walk to the ambulance - / do yes, success, i only hurt one ankle lol
IF i see any of my mates displaying such low level non contrcuctive RP then ill shoot them and rob them myself.
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On 9/5/2019 at 8:34 PM, Aldarine said:
When you are in a downed state, no matter the reason or what you RP, you are completely vulnerable and cannot fight back/resist. Your health bar is actively decreasing and therefore you should be absolutely more concerned for your life than any of your personal belongings. It is annoying/frustrating when you are downed and get looted? Absolutely it is, but at the end of the day you're in a situation where you are in no way able to deny the looting player.
that might be the problem, being "downed" doesnt make you dead, if a player goes down alone, they can still wriggle around and find their phone, if i went down and had only broken my leg, i would do a /do right leg broken as anybody appeared, this lets the player know that your upper body is still functioning, a decent RP player will take note of this and RP accordingly. Its very very unrealitic to be "downed" and in no way be able to protect yourself, unless at Eclipse being "downed" means that you are actually unconscious. in which case, nobody should be talking or moving a muscle in that state. Either you are functioning to the best of your ability when downed, or you are unconscioius. Which is it?
example, falls from pedal bike, twists ankle, sitting on the floor waiting for an ambulance, eneymy robber comes along, attamepts to take your wallet from your upper left side jacket pocket (upper body) fully functioning, "yeah sure sir, its in my jacket pocket, i would try and stop you with my arms or hands but i cant, ive got a boo boo on my ankle"
just makes no sense at all and fails in RP.
An approval action should be required, and players should be expected to RP accordingly, RP you accidne to a higher enough degree and a player will not be able to just walk over and rob you, just make sure you provide enough "/do leg is hurt but upper body still functioning" so they other player is aware of your current RP vitality and moblity. It is then on the other player to /me attempts to rob the player /do success... to which the reply can be, /do no, upper body still functioning, would fight off the robber from the groud, flalling and punching whilst shouting for help.
This is imo, and it is how i would expect the server to operate. #edit : if the other player ignores your /do ankle is hurt but upper body still functioing asnd continues to rob you, imo that powergaming as it ignores your current RP state and should be worthy of a report, as you did not get a chance to RP your response.
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On 9/7/2019 at 1:50 PM, DimaDan said:
If lets say will be like a proper faction with a salary i think a lot of people will enjoy doing this .
I will do it for free but most of the people need the money also , so whats the point of losing time when they can do a job or whatever . I think people will love this if it becomes something official , lets say to get payed by the 'case' not hourly.
Roleplay something like a tutorial a curse for the begginers and thats it
This would have to be a long drawn out process carried out by either admins or "old" players with cash who don't have need for money. Especially during the early stages of development. Even then, the system should be use only to bring about more RP. Considering the impact holding a role like this could have on the gameplay of others and their availability to game money should not be introduced from a top down perspective.
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This is a topic that has been mentioned many time, however through the lens of a gov faction I genuinely believe there is room for this to take shape.
Building on from your proposal I would propose thinking around ideas such as these:
Have people apply on the forums similar to other gov factions. Just make the requirements ridiculously hard and make sure it's as unbiased as possible.
Players then, if they choose, go "on duty" like other factions.
Once (for example) 10 people actively go "on duty" players on the server are notified that the "City Council" is now in session.
For a case to be heard a player must
Have more than 5 (for example) hours to serve in prison. This is to condense the numbers down.
They must: have footage of said offence. If they wish to defend it they must provide evidence
A player does not have to be in attendance, eliminating heavy logistics a court system "should" have. Should this system develop the on sight DOC facilities for parole (similar to mentioned above) may be an option.
Players may only request a "city council" appeal every so often. Similar to only being able to break out of prison, with limitations.
Successful or not, that player may be charged for the service.
Players must agree that if additional charges are found when the "city council" views any evidence provided from officers that these charges may too be applied to the player/prisoner.
Also, should an officer be found abusing their powers that the prisoner be released and compensated accordingly.
These are just thinking points sureounding the idea of a functioning Judicial and the ideas of Law and Order within the city. Hopefully something to think around. I believe it is doable should it be thought through and rolled out in the correct way. Probs best to let admin role it our and try the system out first should this ever become a thing
Cheers
Edit. Considering the growing numbers on the server it would be cool to see this develop
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"Chicken Noodle Soup" - guaranteed this was requested by a Triad member for sure
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+1 this would be a massive improvement to RP, immersion and gameplay.
Mega +1
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1 hour ago, Flucifial said:
I've shed a tear from this reply...
Uhm, sir, vending machines exist real life and ECLIPSE Roleplay is meant to simulate real life so uh... what?
introducing a vending machine doesnt really contribute much more to RP though, if you suggested that these vending machines be owned and operated by anothe job which require filling then that would be better.
i mean, whats the added benefit of working vending machines? as opposed to the immersive benefit of having people act as vendors in various stores and restaurants across the city.
i mean on the basis os vending machines existing ill give it a plus 1, in terms of promoting immersion, player interactiona dn gameplay i give it a -1 . just my opnion though . -
A new logging off standard.
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Posted · Edited by padpilot
True, priorities must be set, having gamed for like 23 years I get what you mean.
So just prioritize the logging process more. I do many thing on the server I don't need to do but I do a lot of things I know other people will get RP out of. I don't always drive home, sometimes I walk home, many times "new players" pull up and offer me a ride home. Imo, even that little thing, for a "new player"could be the added immersion to help the server retain more players. This is what I prioritize.