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  1. On 11/27/2019 at 1:45 AM, Pertinax said:

    Hi,

    Here a simple suggestion, Is just to keep the Door open if you leave the vehicle, in that way situations like a felony stop, doesn't require you to go in front of the cruiser pressing O and go back to the back of the door.

    Make things more realistic if you get chased and you get out of your vehicle fast.
    Simple suggestion.

    Also to close it you would have to press O.

    i thought this was already a thing, when you exit a vehicle, instantly just start running, the door should stay open. might jus be certain vehicles,unsure. 

  2. +1. 

     

    You are adding to gameplay and roleplay possibility to others, and i suspect, most are newer players, so how can this ever get a minus 1 is very disheartening. 

     

    Others state the Discord as a reason to give this a minus one. There are a shit ton of ECRP handlers, look in any major gang discord youll see arounf 6-8 ECRP handlers in there. Simply get one of those in the discord and you are good to go.

     

    Hopefuly this works out for you as this would be providing an Essential need for the sever, i feel that those willing to do ventures like this to inrease RP and gameplay should have the full backing of the server should the neccesary pre requisites be fullfilled. By  no helping and allowing this, that seems to be an acceptence of the current trend for house markets and house flipping. something needs to be done and at least OP is giving it a go. 

     

    So mega plus 1 from 🙂

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  3. 15 hours ago, flow said:

    Well, here's the thing. It is working. We are continiously seeing good developments in SD due to our efforts. We attract people who want to roleplay realistically. Every academy we hold, we see the same developments. Out of 10 trainees that attend the academy, about 5 will become Deputy Sheriffs. The training process we have is designed to discourage people who are here for quick fun and action and leans towards players who are more dedicated. We see the results, and the community does too. I won't deny there are issues arising from time to time but there are no teething issues, at least with SD. People want to complain about being made to show their ID before being given a reason for a traffic stop? Fine, but that's not an issue. That is a development of the server and the things we deal with. We are restricted as to what we can do and how we are to do it. I understand the cries for more realism but I don't think you guys understand the consequences this would bring for criminal rp. If we go more realistic than we are now, you're getting a forced CK for your murder charges, your vehicle seized and auctioned off, all cops running around with heavy weapons because that's the weaponry we are confronted with on a daily. We'll take your business and houses to pay for your debts. Do you see where this is going? Some of the issues brought up are real issues we are working on, and others are very petty. In SD, we have paid out about 500k in compensation in direct relation to IA reports and have suspended and discharged people based on those reports. The systems are working, we rely on you to report incidents to us. Not the forums, to us directly so we can deal with them. Our discharges and punishments are public, we don't hide anything. https://gov.eclipse-rp.net/viewforum.php?f=937

    fair play cant argue with that. Cant think of much else you guys could do tbf. 

     

    Honestly though , the punishments you say "realism" would bring imo, would be really really welcomed by a lot of players. Imagine having assets seized to pay for debt, that would be awesome 🙂 no more criminals being lazy, no more robbing randoms broad daylight on the street, no more using personal supercars for petty crime. Being a criminal is already way way way too easy, bring on the "realism" would be awesome by the sounds of it 🙂


    Also - " but I don't think you guys understand the consequences this would bring for criminal rp" - trust me a lot of criminals do, and they are crying out for more realism, obviously though a lot of players are crims and the average player could just not play enough the "realism" was introduced. However, we aint all the same, we all have different wants/expectations and different skilsets for that matter. Try not to lump us all together, criminal RP is already considered trash overall, im a crim but i know my RP levels are good, so its not necceseraily a casse of "you guys". 

     

    :)

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  4. On 8/6/2019 at 8:20 PM, Balastas said:

    People running away with super cars and we can't charge them without indentifying? While IRL they get your plate number and if you escape good luck with police at your house and then explaining who was driving your car. 

     

    why isnt this a thing though? rather than add to the problem by driving drags and super cars, why not limit the possibility of gang members driving them.

    If someone flees from the cops, get the playes. if they have a house, go knock on the house, see what you find. 

    /Ido there would be a knock at the door. 

    get a warrent if you have to and search the place.

    This would promote so much immersive roleplay. There should be a worry of being identified in your own vehicle, you shouldnt commit crimes in your own ride. This problem could be solved, not by simply "well if they drive them, we drive them" mentality but by actually thinking- "well how can we get them to stop using supercars" - which is kinda no rp anyways tbf. 

    Or even, take possesion of people vehicles Permanently. 

    3 strikes in the same vehicle and it gets confiscated, forever, this will really change the way in whick people decide to use their personnal vehicles for crimes. 

    Often policies here seem to compound problems, not actually solve them

  5. 4 minutes ago, Catstify said:

    My issue with corruption is that instead of keeping as much IC as possible, they give IC punishments for OOC issues. So if someone breaks an OOC PD rule such as ooc toxicity or misrepresenting the faction ooc, they receive an IC punishment as a result. If no one finds out IC or reports it IC then why are the officers receiving IC punishment for it? The same goes for gang rp as well though I'm not as familiar with their rules. In my opinion, there is too much mixing within the current rules for factions when mixing is something that's punishable. Yes, there should be consequences to ooc rule breaks (such as ooc toxicity) but they should not extend IG as much as they do. 

    isnt that mixing? 

  6. 14 hours ago, SamuelGunn said:

    -Update just got thrown out of the PD due to saying the truth and not even trying to offend anyone apparently in 2019 freedom of speech is not found on this server. The law says innocent until proven guilty Chief was proven guilty by admins but somehow pointing out mistakes of one is not okay. I guess AI works the same way.

    holy shit they actually fired you lol  fuck me....... 

  7. On 11/16/2019 at 4:07 AM, flow said:

    While I don't agree with the original post this topic started with as I believe that's a very petty point, some good points have been made. What we as faction leaders, in my case SD, do is take these on board and see where we can improve the general enjoyment for police roleplay. Reading this topic though makes everything seem bad which it is not. There are issues on a wider level which need to be addressed and the cases I've read here are not things we or PD encourage or allow. I will go as far as say that most of these interactions described in this topic were interactions with lower level members of either department. This is something we work on. I can say this for SD and I am sure PD does the same but we are constantly correcting such behaviour when we see it or are told about it. I take these things seriously, going as far as driving to a known gang and asking their leader if it was true he was arrested for calling one of my deputies an asshole. Neither SD nor PD leadership gloss over these things and we are keen on correcting the issues and making sure they are not repeated. It is true that PD took a bit of a hit when SD first started as quite a few experienced and strict members left to build SD. However, PD has filled most of the positions with equally as good people. The brunt of the issues does not come from the top, they are at the bottom levels. We see this in SD with trainees and ranks DS1 to DS3. We have made periods between promotions longer in order to give more time for the lower levels to adjust and fully understand what we expect in terms of role play. For the most part, this is working. Some cases do still arise however where we see an issue. You can however trust me that we do not allow such things and do not tolerate them. We talk to deputies and we correct ill behaviour. You have to take into account the progression that happens within SD and PD. Our trainees can not go out by themselves for at least 21 days, they are always accompanied by a trainer. We do this to try and prepare them and show them what we expect. Naturally, things that shouldn't happen, still do. But that is an issue that goes across all factions on the server. It is up to us faction leaders to try and mitigate the risks of this happening however. I can't speak for IA as I never had any interactions with IA myself while in PD, but in SD we do usually solve a case within a week, if not two in rare cases. Though I have to say, a lot of IA reports are complete bogus and they take time away from dealing with the actual issues. We have one reported been spammed to us 6 times in short succession, and each time triggering the IA process. That report was a waste of time which could have been allocated to solving actual cases. I know this is something most people do not want to hear, but PD and SD are not and will not unleash the full possibilities and consequences that would be justified in a state with such a high murder and crime rate. From an IC point of view, I have every justification I need to equip every single one of our deputies with an AR and authorize stop and search procedures on anyone wearing a known gang colour. ICly, this would be justified given the crimes, gangs and weaponry we face. But we don't do that. PD and SD, contrary to popular believe, are not looking to win every situation. We would utilize all tools and justifications if we were. You are seeing a PD and SD that are constraining themselves in action and reaction to the crime we face in order to give an enjoyable time in the server. We need criminials and you need the cops, it's simple.

    SD and PD invest a lot of time every week in tracking what our members do, how much they work, if they log their arrests, duty reports, impounds, training sessions etc. We do what we can to ensure people are doing what they are supposed to do. Every week, supervisors are tasked with tracking everyone in the department, how much time they work, how many reports they write, what qualifications they have, if they do or do not provide training etc. This is done to monitor what is being done. This is something that takes hours of actual RL time, away from playing the game, where we sit and count reports, hours, trainings etc. etc. PD and SD are not just "log in get a gun" type of faction. Currently, it takes someone in SD a minimum of 51 days to be even eligible to apply for a shotgun, that is excluding the actual application and the potential failure of such application. We have strict rules on when heavy weapons can be deployed and who can do so. We recently suspended someone for the misuse of their weapons. You may think oh, what is a suspension going to do but you need to see the whole picture. The progression in PD and SD is something people aim for, they want to climb the ranks. A written warning and a suspension put off any and all promotions by at least 45 days from the date of the suspension. That is a severe hit in their progression and is definitely not something people take lightly within our factions.

    A lot of good points have been made but I have also seen a lot of accusations and name calling that are nothing short of uproductive and harmful to the process of having an open dialogue. We are open to talk about things, anyone can message me on discord with an issue they have with a member of SD and we will talk about it. People have done that and they can confirm that I'll listen to the problem and try to resolve it. Coming on the forums only helps if it's constructive and to the point. We need to have an open dialogue because honestly, getting pulled over and being asked to identify yourself before you are being told why you are being pulled over is NRP? That's just not true. It's a petty claim. People also severely overestimate what they can or cannot do. I can't remember when I had the last traffic stop which did not involve a bunch of their gang members show up, cricle us and constantly barge in asking what's wrong. Do you realise how NRP that is? Your guy is getting a speeding ticket, you don't show up asking questions getting yourself arrested for obstruction of justice, that is NRP. We deal with a lot of issues on a daily basis that we don't come on here for accusing each and every criminal for. It is important to differentiate between what is good and what is bad. Yesterday I roleplayed a roadside inspection of a vehicle and the driver told me "I better leave because his boys are coming". Is that the kind of RP we are supposed to accept from a criminal point of view? It's not and I understand that these are isolated cases.

    We need an open dialogue but it has to be constructive and I can assure you that a lot of issues either side has with each other, can be resolved if we do it reasonably and talk about things in a manner that is not aggressive.

     

    if all this effort is done, and yet the general public still dont see/feel this to be the case then clearly more transparency is needed? 

  8. Now this thread is gaining tractions, can a dev team member comment on the liklihood of these clearly well thought out suggestions?

    1. the suggestins good?
    2. Chances of implementation
    3. Can you put this in an ongoing suggestions section so it doesnt get lost. 

    Cheers 

    [posted 1 month after the original suggestion] 

  9. reasons like this why if i get pulled over, sometimes i just get out, put hands up and get on knees. 

    By not giving a reason for a stop, i am unable to respond with my roleplay accordingly.

    If a player does not give another player a chance to adequatly respond to RP, im sure we call that powergaming. 

  10. 2 hours ago, Actualbears said:

    We are all terrible people here in the gaming community, You would of really figured that out by now. 

    Don't be disheartened by some autism fueled emotes on a forum where shitposting is half the battle.
     

    If shitposting is half the battle then what the fuck are we all doing here .

  11. 7 hours ago, DetectiveStone said:

    maybe more reactions like OP stated but if you can’t handle memes then why play video games 

    Been gaming for like 22-23 years mate, this is the first time ive ever heard memes associated with gaming in such a way, think its as a Richard Dawkins term, wasnt even used until 2013 ish within the gaming/internet communities.

  12. 1 hour ago, alexalex303 said:

    I'd like the ability to see your own record at the precinct. Perhaps not in the panel.

    makes more sense tbf, just get a few screenshots in game, just as good with more player immersion in game 🙂 

  13. 3 minutes ago, kenichis said:

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    yes, i found myself using them, only after using them did i think "wait, im being a bit toix here", so, wont use them again and hence the post

    pmost 🙂 only after doing something do i sometimes realize its not the best move. 

    🙂 

    point stll remains valid

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