Victor Einhart
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Please tell me what you think the officers should do that doesn't involve just letting you go (which encourages hostage taking even more).
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You should have the certificate you say the medic gave you ready at all times. You need to realize that every single other person on the server that has a mask on wears it to play into the alias system and the IC laws were created to combat against this because there was no reason not to wear one. You also need to realize everyone argues over everything with officers and the default is not to believe you if you don't have some kind of evidence to show us. Get that certificate out. Show us. If you chill out and roleplay with the officers and actually give them the certificate you say you got, the officers shouldn't bother you. This doesn't mean they can't ask you for ID to verify who you are, though. If they do continue to bother you about the mask, it becomes something they can actually get into trouble for IC because of the passage you highlighted that gives exemptions for medical reasons.
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2 hours ago, ImQub3dttv said:
fun RP opportunities
Just a clarifying question... how many times have you been on the negotiating side of this sort of scene?
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LSPD used to have a dispatch certification and while a lot of work went into it, nobody actually wanted to do it and the certification was eventually scrapped. If you're really that interested in it, I'm sure it could be brought up IC.
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7 hours ago, Xoza said:
Bodies left abandoned could be ‘found’ by citizens after 30 min and called in automatically
IMO probably the best solution, as the timer is 60 minutes and if nobody does anything with the body in that 30 minutes they're probably not going to do anything in the following 30 either. The only issue with this I can see is these large shootouts you get where a dozen people die, you're going to get spammed by a large number of requests all at once.
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5 hours ago, Kamarz said:
Elegy tops out at 185, massacro 195, Cuquette 192. Would consider these to be race and super cars, not as fast (top speed) as a police cruiser.
And those cars reach that speed in half the time it takes the cruiser to reach the same speed thanks to those cars' superior acceleration. What's your point?
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8 hours ago, Harley said:
PD have the same ability to interrogate NPCs
Thank you for completely ignoring my point about respecting criminal RP and leaving these locations alone.
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Right now based on my experience having been the Commanding Officer of SWAT for a little while, there's a small chance (I'm estimating it's about 5%) that PD will receive an IC notification of the shipment similar to a 911 call that lists the location and approximately how long it will be until the drop arrives (typically 30-50 minutes). PD wasn't told the precise locations of these drops, we learned where they were over time. In other words, we don't get a map marker - if you don't know where a shipment drops in, you're F'd. Alternatively you can also walk up to the NPC and ask for information about shipments, but the NPC only tells you about shipments ordered from that particular NPC and won't tell you about shipments ordered from other NPCs. The NPC will only tell you about a shipment that's currently pending, meaning you need to catch a shipment before it arrives with no way of knowing if one is active. If you talk to him and no shipments are active, he will go on "cooldown" and offer zero information for about an hour so if you aren't lucky, you can't get any information for a while. This is all based on my personal experience in these activities. Talking to the NPC is fundamentally luck-based.
The 5% chance has been disabled since the "criminal update" and only recently returned. During that entire time, the stars aligned with the NPCs a total of 4 times in 8 months according to deployment logs written by SWAT. The reason for that is because LSPD does not camp these static criminal locations and interrogate the NPC every chance we get: we only go there if there's a 911 call, out of respect for criminal RP we largely leave these locations alone and officers that don't are warned not to go there. In that whole time, people freely imported millions of dollars of weapons and drug making materials with zero fear of law enforcement action. Criminals didn't complain about the system during this time.
"But Einhart, can't you just develop contacts IC that'll tell you when drops are coming in?"
Give me a call. No one volunteers this information. Nobody wants to offer that kind of RP to us in my experience. You want us to do that, extend the olive branch. I routinely give people every chance to convince me to go easy on them (i.e. "give me something and I'll give you something") and they tell me to fuck off.
Right now it's balanced. There's a small chance that we might know about it, but that doesn't mean we have the manpower to respond at the time. We could have other things going on, or not a lot of officers available, there's all sorts of scenarios that have happened where we don't respond even when we get a notice.
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I think it's fine the way it is, but people push it really far for no real reason other than trying to get a rise out of people. For example, there's no reason for someone to pass my police cruiser and shout the "n" word at me as they go by but this happens to me pretty frequently for no reason. At the same time, it's awkward to constantly have to ask people if it's ok to say words like this if for example they're an all-black street gang: people like this naturally talk that way to each other.
As much as I'd like it to stay the same alongside a dose of common sense and courtesy, the fact that it's still a problem means common sense ain't so common after all.
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speed cameras on every street corner
more seriously, though, it's a big IC problem and unfortunately the police department doesn't have the manpower to cover 100% of the roads at all times so this issue will always exist in some form or another. If you want to help solve it you might consider joining the traffic division IC!
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I like the idea of more things to do, but this shouldn't be limited only to official factions.
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On 3/8/2021 at 5:10 AM, Krish Roshan said:
I have seen pd cruisers go 200-210
Yes, and this is after about 30 seconds of holding W and not taking any turns. You can achieve the same speed in most other cars, and you'll get to that speed in half the time or less with higher performance cars.
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1 hour ago, Dirty Mike said:
Did you read my post? that was the idea was to get them to chop shops, criminals could have tow trucks, if you get caught towing a stolen car, your tow truck could be impounded with a heavy fine, That's not abuse that's real life, I think that if a tow truck cost 50-75k and a 15 or 20k fine to get it out of impound if caught towing a stolen car that would balance out the risk vs reward
This would make it even easier to steal cars, and honestly it's already way too easy.
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The highest rank of such a force should probably be at best a Major, not a General. A General is in command of literally hundreds if not thousands of personnel and is many steps removed from what the everyman is up to. IMO if you're really serious about this, limit it to Company level which is roughly 100 personnel, plus support. It will be a lot easier to organize platoons and squads, rather than fleshing out an entire battalion or a regiment. A squad is 9-10 guys, 4 squads to a platoon, and 3-4 platoons to a company if they are fully staffed.
If it ever takes off I'd also like to see legitimate radio traffic, because radio etiquette is pretty different from what everybody is used to.
Having said all that, I know a lot of people are really angry about the idea of the National Guard and I know the staff team at least in my experience seems reluctant to really pursue this idea. I'm also kinda concerned that this would just be a vehicle for people to learn tactics and then apply those to their criminal career, whether that's through leaving the faction and starting crim stuff, or metagaming the skills they'd learn onto other characters either intentionally or unintentionally (it's hard to unlearn things that you drill over and over), as an example this is already an existing problem with people that have alts in law enforcement factions.
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What do you propose to prevent abuse where people tow cars to a chop shop? You know that's what people will be doing.
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Let me ask you this, have you ever fired from bushes before? It's not as hard as you might think and honestly it's done all the time in heavy brush areas. I've seen someone sit in a 5-foot tall mulberry tree and people walk right by him with no idea he's there. This is a legitimate tactic.
2 hours ago, Jay Asuna said:a bullet could hit a branch inside of the bush and fire off in any direction
Not sure what bushes are made of where you live but this is complete nonsense. Thick trees you might have a point but bushes, no.
People could improve their RP in bushes and not just bunny hop into the nearest one, but saying it's not realistic is not true.
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People already steal too many cars. All this would do is create a situation where inevitably all your cars will be stolen while you're offline and that's no bueno.
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While it sucks to wait, if this was a freelance job people would abuse it to tow people's cars to a chop shop. It would need to be it's own faction with OOC corruption rules to prevent this, and I honestly don't think there's enough content here to justify that.
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1 hour ago, cheatonus said:
you need to give them some power
Every time criminals feel they have a sense of power, the server turns into Fallujah. Given your other comments where you say:
3 hours ago, cheatonus said:AK47s on wholesale yall!
It appears to me looking from the outside that you want to become Al-Qaeda and do anything to anyone you want without any consequences. There are more shootings on the server than there ever were on actual battlefields in the past 20 years in the middle east. If we're still talking about realism, the police force would have been disbanded at this point and replaced by martial law to get things under control thanks to terrorist organizations attacking government forces and civilians on a daily basis.
When I come on the scene of a gun battle and I see people typing "/s lil niggas where's the national guard" and "/s what you waiting for come in and die" these people aren't roleplaying criminals trying to avoid going to jail, as you say. Those same people then get upset when they get what they're asking for.
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On 2/3/2021 at 8:27 PM, DaMasterSplinter said:
The people should not be pulled out
Just want to touch on this point, this is a realistic request and isn't even related to someone being arrested or not. Officers can ask you to step out if they want to try and control the situation, and it's actually a de-escalation measure if they think the person might drive off. Having someone outside the vehicle prevents things from escalating into a pursuit over something silly like a traffic ticket. Look up the US case law Pennsylvania v. Mimms.
If players just put a gun in their trunk and said the words "I'm not answering any questions," you'd almost never be arrested during a traffic stop unless you had outstanding warrants or were doing some absolutely ridiculous driving before the stop even started.
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18 minutes ago, alexalex303 said:
This isn't a problem with PD, it's with the alias system in genereal.
+1. This is why people wear masks 24/7 even when it doesn't make sense to do so: they're playing to the alias mechanic.
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I do not think making /stabilize simply add more time before you finally expire is a good idea.
The reason why is criminals often get into shootouts with law enforcement, and we find ourselves in a very long scene afterwards if there's a lot of people injured. I'm not going to get into the good and bad of these situations and start an argument, I'm just saying that they happen.
Let's say there are half a dozen injured people on scene. If those people receive proper treatment and survive there's a process we go through in order to add appropriate charges to each person (or find out they're innocent). Those people more or less need to stay on scene in order for us to investigate their actions due to the very limited tools we have. By making this a timer instead of a full stabilize it means we'd have to rush through this investigation and ultimately make more mistakes in terms of what that player's involvement was (or even if they were involved at all).
These sorts of investigations are all but impossible to do if everyone is carted off to the hospital due to the nature of GTA RP. We're not able to look at bullet piles near where they went down, if they were on the sidelines, what vehicles they were next to, or anything like that. We'd have to go through recorded footage which would mean you're sitting around idle for even longer than usual and you'd sit in police custody until it was determined what your involvement was. While this is more realistic (in real life if you're a direct suspect in a shooting and were taken into custody literally at the scene of the shooting after being injured), I don't think you realize what this would mean for you from a gameplay perspective.
I know people meme and complain about gun shot residue tests, but this is one of the primary tools we have in terms of on-scene RP to properly figure out what happened in these sorts of situation. If you're carted off to the hospital, that means we have to re-create the entire situation from scratch and this will make already too-long situations where people are screaming at us to hurry up even longer.
It's not ideal, but without proper investigation tools this isn't really feasible. I have no problem if people die before they can be properly treated, but once they are we should be able to do other kinds of RP, too.
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I tried it at both toll booths with the money transport job and it didn't take anything from me.
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Same thing happens for PD uniforms, however only if the incorrect glove option is chosen. There are glove variations for short and long sleeves so perhaps the gloves you're using or have access to aren't compatible.
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Such as people waiting for someone to walk into a bank so they can be taken hostage. Or ignoring the hostage rules altogether. It goes both ways.
I have asked @jameswilliam100 what he thought the officers should have done in an effort to see if anything can be done to improve things because I'm in a position to actually make change. Like usual, I was ignored.