Rv changes

[Lacoste]

Please bring back the normal speed of the RVs because in reality its not that so slow even there's a lot of things stored inside of it.

25kmph is very unrealistic even if there's ton of things inside

[Whitney]

-1

I disagree, it is realistic. I have a mini-house inside it, any speed that would be higher than that would cause furniture to shake and break/shatter. It's so realistic, or at least adds a little bit of realism. It's not just about how heavy things are, but also that in real life, you would drive it slow so the furniture wouldn't break (nobody would be that careless in real life to break their furniture, even if their RV was capable of driving at a high-speed). Also, you have 'safes' (items inside them as well) inside for sure, they're made of metal and RVs are normally slow, that would add a lot of weight to it, making it even more slower. This is a VAN made out of heavy metal. Believe it or not, I used to set cruise mode at 30MPH when I first got the RV and had it furnished to make it appear that I'm taking care of the furniture inside and also how it would get slower with that much furniture inside, I stopped doing it because everybody drove it at a high-speed, but now that it's official, it's better and fair for everyone.

Just call a tow truck if you're not okay with it, it's $1,500 for a tow, which might also not sound realistic, because the tow truck's speed would be much lower than the RVs speed since the RV is already slow from the furniture/items inside it, but this is a way.

Imagine an RV driving at a high-speed with all of these items across hills/roads/off-roads, not to forget about the sharp turns. I'm okay with it because I'm using the RV as my character's living place for now and it doesn't seem unrealistic for me. Remove some items if you want to drive at a higher speed. 

Be reminded that you're not driving/walking on a real road, it's a game, everything looks smaller than what it is in reality, you don't feel it because everyone is used to real life physics and mechanics, but for the game it's very realistic. You take an hour I think to drive from a city to another in real life? In the game, it should take 15-20 minutes to drive from LS to Paleto and vice versa if you're following the traffic laws. In-game, you get arrested for minutes or hours (only got arrested once), but in real life, you get arrested for years.

Edited July 26, 2020 by MsBonBonnxx

[Lacoste]

11 minutes ago, MsBonBonnxx said:

-1

I disagree, it is realistic. I have a mini-house inside it, any speed that would be higher than that would cause furniture to shake and break/shatter. It's so realistic, or at least adds a little bit of realism. It's not just about how heavy things are, but also that in real life, you would drive it slow so the furniture wouldn't break (nobody would be that careless in real life to break their furniture, even if their RV was capable of driving at a high speed). Also, you have 'safes' (items inside them as well) inside for sure, they're made of metal and RVs are normally slow, that would add a lot of weight to it, making it even more slower. This is a VAN made out of heavy metal.

Just call a tow truck if you're not okay with it, it's $1500 for a tow, which might also not sound realistic, because the tow truck's speed would be much lower than the RVs speed since the RV is already slow from the furniture/items inside it, but this is a way.

Imagine an RV driving at a high speed with all of these items across hills/roads/off-roads, not to forget about the sharp turns. I'm okay with it because I'm using the RV as my character's living place for now and it doesn't seem unrealistic for me. Remove some items if you want to drive at a higher speed. 

its totally different in game if you're driving 25kmph. try to run using your character and chase an rv you will definitely pass that rv and you're even faster than that rv you chased. in real life in order to you to run in 25kmph you need to be an athlete but if an average human running, it will be impossible for someone to reach a car who's running at 25kmph. not everything can be applied in game since the physics of GTA 5 itself is totally different in real life and one of those is the velocity.

[Whitney]

13 minutes ago, Lacoste said:

its totally different in game if you're driving 25kmph. try to run using your character and chase an rv you will definitely pass that rv and you're even faster than that rv you chased. in real life in order to you to run in 25kmph you need to be an athlete but if an average human running, it will be impossible for someone to reach a car who's running at 25kmph. not everything can be applied in game since the physics of GTA 5 itself is totally different in real life and one of those is the velocity.

Because it depends on how heavy the stuff you have inside weigh. I would say that it needs to get balanced a bit, but not fully restore it to what it was. You still have the normal speed if you remove everything inside and throw it outside. Also, a player cannot ever pass any vehicle that's being driven at 25, it's impossible, try it for yourself.

Edited July 26, 2020 by MsBonBonnxx

[Kjaer]

+1/-1 I think the speed reduction is a cool idea, but 25km is laughable. I think the minimum speed should be around 40-60kmh, what an irl city speed limit would be.

[Dougie Beltane]

i agree but i think it should be min 80kmph the actual city speed limit, but id go for 40, anythings better than 10 which is what it is now. from what i was told i didnt get in my rv today i went out joy riding and talking to people.

Edited July 29, 2020 by Dougie Beltane

[Dom McFlies]

This and the change to mining is just going to bring more trouble than there already was especially with robberies.

 

Not only loaded RVs are going to be way too slow to outrun any cars trying to chase, pull over and rob it. It will also be encouraged as now the ore respawn time is a lot slower so rather than people going in the mines and grinding they're going to be trying to rob loaded up rvs and selling the ore someone else mined as there was none left when they went in to mine.

 

Why try fix something that wasn't broken in the first place. Mining was grindy as hell from the beginning and made you invest at least 70k+ safes to actually make a profit and it still took hours to get a decent load. Not to mention the driving uphill and all the way to drop off point to sell the ore. 

 

I think this was an unnecessary change and is going to drive people away from doing the only profitable legal job and other jobs pay next to nothing

[Dom McFlies]

Just finished mining and with an RV loaded with about 15 safes I'm stuck going 10 km/h with engine upgrade to 3. 

 

This is ridiculously dumb way to ruin the only profitable job to do. Wasted over 100k on the RV and upgrades to go 10Kmh and be vulnerable to being robbed trying to sell the ore

[Whitney]

Do you people realize that an RV's primary or common usage is not for carrying your work's goods to deliver and sell them to a warehouse/drop-off point?

 (Source)

Meanwhile, trucks are still here and they do the same thing as an RV, the only difference is that you're complaining about the changes when you're not even using them the right way, to make it fair, I don't too, but I'm not complaining. We all know that what we are doing is wrong, so we shouldn't argue about something that is wrong.

 (Source)

Maybe there's an idea behind the changes that were done to the RV; To force people to switch to the trucks instead? You store too much in an RV for it to maintain it's speed; that's why it drastically falls to a really-really lousy and poor speed.

18 minutes ago, Dom McFlies said:

Just finished mining and with an RV loaded with about 15 safes I'm stuck going 10 km/h with engine upgrade to 3. 

 

This is ridiculously dumb way to ruin the only profitable job to do. Wasted over 100k on the RV and upgrades to go 10Kmh and be vulnerable to being robbed trying to sell the ore

You're talking about speed, read the specs of trucks, they're strong enough to handle significant amounts of heavyweights; that's why they didn't get nerfed (from my point of view).

Edited July 29, 2020 by MsBonBonnxx

[Kjaer]

I personally have always used my truck for mining because that's what makes sense (Would like to see some expansion on what you can do with trucks in the future too) but all these rv's stuck at 10km/h uphill/downhill and having to nearly slam into the back of them or swerve around is kinda frustrating because its an OOC implentations thats unrealistic (no momentum with the current limiter). Would like to at least see cops to ticket all the RV's going 10km/h because its 75 km below the speed limit and is dangerous as hell .

[Dom McFlies]

Okay another update, I was going DOWNHILL in a loaded RV and it was capped at 10KMH. How is that realistic.

Also where are you supposed to park at truck at the mines since it's all on a dirt road with turns and RV's and cars parked everywhere

 

So not only it takes about 30 minutes in a full RV to get back to sell it and make maybe 30k depending on prices. Your max speed is capped at 10kmh by a script.

I was almost robbed twice in one trip doing this as well. I got some videos that I will upload later and post here at how fast my rv was going down vinewood hills

[Kjaer]

8 minutes ago, Dom McFlies said:

Also where are you supposed to park at truck at the mines since it's all on a dirt road with turns and RV's and cars parked everywhere.

Ive never had a problem parking at the mines. just find a clear spot.

[VirginiaLite]

On 7/26/2020 at 3:53 AM, MsBonBonnxx said:

-1

I disagree, it is realistic. I have a mini-house inside it, any speed that would be higher than that would cause furniture to shake and break/shatter. It's so realistic, or at least adds a little bit of realism. It's not just about how heavy things are, but also that in real life, you would drive it slow so the furniture wouldn't break (nobody would be that careless in real life to break their furniture, even if their RV was capable of driving at a high-speed). Also, you have 'safes' (items inside them as well) inside for sure, they're made of metal and RVs are normally slow, that would add a lot of weight to it, making it even more slower. This is a VAN made out of heavy metal. Believe it or not, I used to set cruise mode at 30MPH when I first got the RV and had it furnished to make it appear that I'm taking care of the furniture inside and also how it would get slower with that much furniture inside, I stopped doing it because everybody drove it at a high-speed, but now that it's official, it's better and fair for everyone.

Just call a tow truck if you're not okay with it, it's $1,500 for a tow, which might also not sound realistic, because the tow truck's speed would be much lower than the RVs speed since the RV is already slow from the furniture/items inside it, but this is a way.

Imagine an RV driving at a high-speed with all of these items across hills/roads/off-roads, not to forget about the sharp turns. I'm okay with it because I'm using the RV as my character's living place for now and it doesn't seem unrealistic for me. Remove some items if you want to drive at a higher speed. 

Be reminded that you're not driving/walking on a real road, it's a game, everything looks smaller than what it is in reality, you don't feel it because everyone is used to real life physics and mechanics, but for the game it's very realistic. You take an hour I think to drive from a city to another in real life? In the game, it should take 15-20 minutes to drive from LS to Paleto and vice versa if you're following the traffic laws. In-game, you get arrested for minutes or hours (only got arrested once), but in real life, you get arrested for years.

RVs with mini homes inside drive much faster than 10kph irl. 25kph was bad but the admin thought lets make it 10kph just for the lols. These RVs arent horses. This is just a blatant nerf to piss everyone off.

[Whitney]

5 minutes ago, VirginiaLite said:

RVs with mini homes inside drive much faster than 10kph irl. 25kph was bad but the admin thought lets make it 10kph just for the lols. These RVs arent horses. This is just a blatant nerf to piss everyone off.

Everyone's downvoting my vote because it's the truth, and I said that it could be balanced, you're also not playing in a real city, this game is based on real world, but it's minimized because Rockstar won't make us drive for hours to get to places, so distances are short in game. I don't get why you're so angry with me, go talk with the developers (ping them) that you're harassing instead of being mean to me. I was just sharing my opinion and this is allowed. By the way, this was before the second patch, I find it annoying to drive at 10MPH too, but we've got to deal with consequences. I don't care one bit about this anymore.

Edited July 29, 2020 by MsBonBonnxx

[Dom McFlies]

1 hour ago, MsBonBonnxx said:

Everyone's downvoting my vote because it's the truth, and I said that it could be balanced, you're also not playing in a real city, this game is based on real world, but it's minimized because Rockstar won't make us drive for hours to get to places, so distances are short in game. I don't get why you're so angry with me, go talk with the developers (ping them) that you're harassing instead of being mean to me. I was just sharing my opinion and this is allowed. By the way, this was before the second patch, I find it annoying to drive at 10MPH too, but we've got to deal with consequences. I don't care one bit about this anymore.

Yeah cause youre on about realism. This is a game to get away from the real world, grind mining buy some guns and clap some boiz 

 

Not fucking drive 10kmh which takes 30 mins just to make maybe 30k

[AlmightyLion]

the update killed the mine ... 400 people on not 1 person in the mine farming this is crazy 

[kenichis]

On 7/29/2020 at 6:20 PM, Dom McFlies said:

Okay another update, I was going DOWNHILL in a loaded RV and it was capped at 10KMH. How is that realistic.

If this feature was added you would be complaining about RVs going backwards on hills.

[Xoza]

-1

RV's were a great idea, and you can build in them. Allowed for a lot of creativity and a cheep mobile home, versus having to find a house, in addition allowing it to be used as mobile labs.

But people are using it to move a TON of items. If an RV is packed up to the weight of a truck, is should definitely be slow. RV motors are much smaller than any truck and I don't believe it was intended to be used this way as well as it's unrealistic.

I do agree ore vol/weight should be set back to what it was and people should resume using 'trucks' for hauling and not RV's. A little tuning is needed, but RV's shouldn't be used to haul tons of heavy cargo.

[KR4STL]

-1

RVs are not super trucks for hauling world record breaking loads

They are supposed to be a cheap portable alternative to a house.

 

Want to haul more and quickly? Get a truck

[Osborn]

Hello, thank you for your suggestion.

This change was to bring balance to RVs and other vehicles. We reviewed several ways in staff to try and solve the issue of RVs being "abused" for unlimited storage without any real repercussion and decided that this was the most feasible way to solve it. We did not want them to get impounded (by adding parking meters at e.g. the mines) because that could be abused by players, and RVs don't despawn from the server for a reason, and we also did not want staff to despawn them like they do with cars in NCZs sometimes, because that would also get abused. 

If our developers feel that something needs to change later down the road, they will revisit this topic. 

- Osborn.