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Bumping this, would like to see this being fixed as if it's stock red it could ruin car designs...

Most Irish I have met have been decent people and fun to be around, most IC interactions with them is fun and they treat you with respect IC & OOC. Big props to all of them.

Another Calm Day The Clowns have been doing well as always. We have been especially happy after recently attending the wedding ceremony of some of our closest friends, the Los Zetas, celebrating Jay Gamble and Kelly Beans big day! (Congratulations from all of us!!) The day after the wedding we did not take time to relax and decided to go and make some cash for the group treasury. With our hotel being built and still needing some furniture we grabbed our gear and headed on out looking for opportunities to make some cash. After visiting multiple labs around the city,we only found destroyed labs and two that were being operated by our allies. We said our greetings, chilled out for a bit and continued on prowling the streets. After driving around for a while there was not a car or person in sight.. We decided to not waste any more time and start hitting various stores around Los Santos, trying to make some small money to continue adding funds into our large treasury. Chumash was our first target. With this many of us, Chumash and other stores around Los Santos were wiped clean in seconds. We were always changing paths, visiting random stores so the cops couldn't guess where we were going next. After hitting different shops, we managed to clear out over $100,000+ into our treasury before the night ended. Later, returning to Bennys, we decided to change our outfits to avoid being recognized by any CCTV cameras that may have caught us either on the scene or leaving the areas. We didn't want to end the night there. We decided to go chill out by the sea; We took our fishing gear, bags and head out to go fishing with the remaining Clowns who did not have to leave the city yet, as some of them were extremely tired. and so we ended the night in a very fun and relaxed way, laughing and talking away while fishing. There may or may not have been alcohol involved as some of the Clowns could be heard somewhere nearby, most likely playing hide and seek! Next time, we hopefully bring some flashlights The Clowns

-1 Most big gangs actually help the farmers. I've seen multiple groups of people patrol around farmgroups protecting them. If you feel like you will be robbed, carry a gun, have a friend go with you when you go to sell. Call the police if someones been robbed recently and ask for a car to watch over the farmers for a short while if possible.

+1 we can try and get this implemented with some "RP" factors removed for simplicity. as stated, don't make it count for misdemeanour's, rather the serious crimes. in regards to making the time work, getting a judge, officer and the defendant in one room they can oocly chose a day and time they are both available, and all people in a law business or judges will get a call when they are looking for one. a ic time will be set, if this gets added and anyone wants to start a law firm, hit me up

Was surprised this wasn't thought of or added when the fishing anywhere update came through.

I support this as long as other people can read the bag names too!

Plus one on that, I wouldn't solely point out the PD's mistakes or flaws without looking at Gangs / General community issues. The amount of gang members or randoms that hop in and break scenes is super frustrating too, generally the RP on both sides could be improved. Also when these streamers are done playing, the people who only played because streamers did will leave and we should just hopefully see a better quality of players remaining, but not going to bet anything on it. I'd like to make a post on a court or legal system, but it seems like they all get shot down. However I feel like I, or with the help of others, can make a good post that outlines any issues and how to tackle them that may come up with it

I do agree with practically all of your points here, they are strongly backed up by other peoples (and a few of my own) personal experience with the PD / SWAT. I'm prefacing this by saying I agree with ALMOST everything you are saying in here, have suffered from multiple bad RP situations and spent hours in prison for stuff I know I haven't done. I would just like to add a couple of my own thoughts. In regards to people being charged for something they didn't do, we need to also think about how this works out of RP. We do know that a percentage of people currently incarcerated around the world really are innocent but are on ludicrous charges such as murder, kidnapping etc. I can see margin of error, especially RP wise, to be present within this RP community as it is something that does happen. You were in the wrong place, at the wrong time, had some matching characteristics or properties (your car) linking to someone else who had committed a crime - it was only inevitable that you drew the short straw. I'm sure you know this, so I'm not sticking on this point for too long, but you can't completely blame Officers for arresting the wrong people... sometimes. Now, legal representation. I'm all for this and your notes about having some sort of RP defence is completely valid and I do believe this should somehow be implemented to simply allow more realistic and fun RP. Following on your suggestion would be allowing incarcerated people (jail or prison) to ask an Officer to view their phones and give the Officers a number to call for legal representation. We could have a brand new faction from this that adds another/more job(s). You could either pay the faction % wise through automated tax where you can ask for a specific lawyer(s) from the faction or use free solicitation (anyone who's on duty arrives) to defend your rights. Allow them to walk in the cell with the detainee or in a private room for up to 10 minutes or so to discuss the current stance of the person being detained. It is then up to the lawyers/solicitors to challenge the Police Officer who arrested you, or even a central court (again, more job ideas I guess?). If the Police Officer lacks evidence such as bodycam footage, crime scene forensics, CCTV etc then legally the person must be released. Good cops which follow rules and stand by the handbook shouldn't have any problems to fight cases if required. While court time is decided, have the person on bail? No show is a new warrant, invalidating your next legal representation request? Anyway, don't want to go too far off the tracks as a legal system could be discussed in a whole new 10 page topic. So back to the main points you brought up. You mentioned how most cops do just want to arrest you and slam you back to MR asap, and while it's RP logically bad we can't blame them too much as if any cop is arresting or even looking into an individual the chances of being pulled up on by a gang increases 100x for each second they are in the field. Just yesterday I was farming and a simple traffic stop turned out into a massive cops v gang shootout. I don't blame cops for trying to get you back to somewhere safer asap when it seems like unless you have 3 cruisers just behind you that whatever situation they get into normally results in a shootout. Cops are like walking targets for any gang and quite literally with the alliances around it's 5 gang members per cop in almost any situation. No wonder they want to get back into their cruisers with you in the shortest time possible. Don't want to go off the rails here and write an essay but all of your points are valid, and I agree whole heartedly with what you have proposed and your suggestions. I also find myself agreeing with the IC officers on this thread too so I'm on neither side specifically here. Both have good suggestions. Let's also not forget the PD seems like it has hundreds of new recruits and cadets as well as some first time, slightly worried players. As time goes on we should hopefully see some people leave as they don't like the job, others discharged for dishonourable actions and hopefully the quality of PO's increase. But this whole thing has two sides and we can't really focus on Police RP without also pointing fingers at Gang RP.