Taedolf

I felt the topic accomplished what it was going to, and instead moved off topic which is why it was closed. Thread closing is also not indicative of PD, as it is staff that did so. Bad-mouthing PD accomplishes, quite literally, nothing in that situation because they had nothing to do with it.

Wasn't I just told in the previous thread that this is only used for OOC? Which is it? Either a communication medium is considered to be inRP or out of RP. let's not do that. that'd be cool. He actually responded with thought. Being against your point of view does not mean you are being shown a middle finger. I think the biggest thing I'm hearing here that actually makes sense to me is: certain things are possible and obtainable while PD, yet not as crim despite the fact that they WOULD be able to be obtained. I mean, crims import AK's yet they can't order a set of Kevlar off amazon? I could order Kevlar right now if I wanted to. Crims should be able to get everything police have access to, when reasonable, but at a much higher price due to the difficulty of obtaining things illegally. Sniper rifles are one of those things where they should be an unrealistically high price, imo, because of how ridiculous they are. I recognize PD should have advantages over criminals, but it also shouldn't be non-RP reasons like restricting things that should be able to be gotten. Instead of nerfing PD armor, give the option to get armor to criminals because it simply makes sense to do so. Keep PD well equipped, but allow criminals to become well equipped by investing their ill-gotten money and potentially losing it. That's how it should be. There should not be an artificial barrier that breaches what should be possible in the name of balance. It'd be okay for a lite-rp, but not what I feel this community is trying to accomplish here.

One thing I will say: if PD/MD are allowed to use TS as inRP comms, so should criminals. There can't be a double standard.

Damn, I wish all my admin/mod work on other communities and even the volunteer crap I did for an indy MMO had rewards xd

Hmm, I didn't think of that. True enough. I was thinking smaller picture. It does make being an admin more of a chore but.. well, that's what admin work is. Thankless chore work. (on that note, ty admins.)

I think we could get the same result by forbidding admins to rule on situations they are involved in, tbh. Players are also more quick to doubt an admin ruling on something they were involved in, whether they were correct or not, simply because they have something to gain for ruling against you.

I assume you're suggesting removing the ability for admins to respond to situations they are a part of in rp? If so, I wholeheartedly agree. Levels of bias are difficult to avoid in situations anyone is a part of. While we, myself included, like to think we are above such things, it is human nature to have bias when personally involved in something. Instead, admins involved in situations should be required to do the same things players are: take evidence and have another admin rule on it. It removes potential bias from the equation and ensures mistakes due to bias do not happen.

I'm not saying things are being done wrong now but cautioning, because if it does cross the threshold of constructive then it can and should be locked.

I'd like to ask everybody to keep good communications going. Not inflammatory or aggressive but communications focused on solutions. What should have been done differently? What would you like to see in the future? I realize there's a lot of frustrations built up but let's try to keep this solution-focused rather than how wrong someone was or wasn't. We're a community here and should keep that in mind, since we all want what's best for the server. These things can derail fast as hell and I don't want to see this go to a bad place and get locked, satisfying none of the parties.

10/10, great guys. Don't get to play as much as I'd like recently but whenever I do I enjoy myself with these boys. Nice to roll with people that don't rob every single person they come across just because.

+1 and would be great if it has some relevance to impounding. I don't know why I should be responsible for paying impound fees if my car was stolen.