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If one side continues to provoke fights, doing stuff as they would while they are at war. Should the side that wants out of the war just take the bullets? No. +1, this is a post to improve criminal RP, the recent war have just made me realize that we need a new and better system

I agree that unless a LOA is issued there should be a reduced wait on all the inactive timers, if a player is perma banned, their houses/businesses should be up by the next week, so they have time to make a ban appeal

+1 to extra city bee's, we need some in the western part of town!

As of lately there has been a huge war in the city. The war is taking part in game and on the forums. Problem is: how is it gonna stop? There is no rules that states when a war has been won or lost. If a group of 10 players fight 200, they would simply have to wait 30 minutes and then be back at it again, even tho it's totaly unrealistic that they would have a chance. But today the same 10 people can simply regroup, make a forum report and drain the will of the 200 over time. There is a lot of problems to this, because a well organized attack that takes down all rival players would be a total waste after 30 minutes. I think there should be a set of rules that decides when a war has been lost/won, it could be if alliance "A" kills 50% of "B"'s players within 30 min, they would be able to demand victory, the demand can be denied up to 3 times, but the final time - it's accepted. The demands/spoils of war will be discussed with the leader of the winning faction and an impartial admin. I think this would improve RP, because now numbers actually matter and 10 people that just want to have big shootouts all the time, can't force a much larger gang to stay at war with them forever.

Will they be avaliable today?

Too true! Amazing work on the post, can't wait to see the RP!

I see positives and negatives iwth the admin and PD right now. First of all we all need to remember that everyone on the server is playing to have fun, and ofc that is gonna influence a decition, and when you add multiple hours, days or even months invested ingame to a character, there is quite a bit of emotions there aswell. I know for a fact that PD treat everyone differently, some have freinds they won't arrest, others have enemies they always want to take down. But hey, that's their RP for all I know. My biggest problem is however not PD or admins, it's them together. I have had a situation where I took a police car I found on the side of the road, it was unlocked and I went for a joyride. Suddenly while in the middle of the windmill park the car was teleported away. When I reported it I was met with "the guy crashed so he took it back, it's his right so don't complain", and I see the point. I should be asked to take the car back myself via a Bleet or something, because I was stuck out in the middle of nowhere and it took me 30 minutes of report denies and some discord conversation to get a teleport back to LS. I felt very disrespected. If anyone would have asked me, I would have taken the car back at once, no complaints. I have had admins making up rules, to force criminal RP down (I won't mention names, simply because I don't want anyone to get in trouble at this time) I think that there are too many shitty RPers out there, so PD and admins get tired of dealing with it. They just close, ignore and move through cases as quickly as possible, becasue the game is not as fun as it was. I can barely stand to play at my MD character anymore because of all the "broken legs" on the server. I have a macro made just for it, and my macro button is soon due for a replacement. Everyone chooses a broken leg. That is the state of RP quality, Everyone wants to win a situation, and noone thinks that they might be wrong. I think that the problem is all of our faults, we need to teach new members how to RP, and we need to accept that if we are criminals, PD should be superior to us. But we should never accept that admins treat people differently. To improve the system I think that there should be added multiple things: * Make it public when PD officers gets a slap on the fingers (add it in the newspaper or something) * Have written rules on how admins should handle a situation that is avaliable for everyone. * The server rules is as stated, and everyone have to RP by it (If a rule is not stated, it's not valid. Please make more rules, but make them visible) * Make it easy to discuss why an admin ruled as they did with the admin in question, without the admin going on the defencive or being aggresive. * Stop with the "you can make a complaint about it" from PD (we don't care about getting someone punished, we just don't wanna spend 2 hours in jail because officers testemony is sacred and is good enaugh by itself without any other proof)

+1 to everything I do see one option about the /stabilize for PD and that would be for the PD to be trained by the MD, the same steps as MD have to do. RPly it makes no sense that a cop would be able to do the same job as a trained proffesional just because they are on the police force.

@LaCocke I think this is because there is no player that owns the house

@Triple Seven "If its your first time buying clothes after new update, it will happen." - NobodyLTU

+1 for the mostly visual attachments (flashlight and scope) -1 for everything else (unless criminals can get some 25% or 50% armor)

Date and time (provide timezone): 9:02 CEST Character name: James Berge Issue/bug you are reporting: The Agency took control of the "Brige" (typo btw) truf and they had control of the other turfs (picture below). When the timer almost hit 0 the server crashed, and the lock on the two other turfes deactivated so we didn't get the trufs as displayed below. Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: Here is a picture of all the turfs Here is a video of the crash:

@Com783 Yep, its not working :((

Date and time (provide timezone): CEST Character name: James Berge Issue/bug you are reporting: Can't equip purchased clothes, all I get is a error message saying "This clothing doesn't fit you." Evidence, notes worth mentioning, steps to replicate: https://imgur.com/a/70hWcnf

So @Triple Seven, can you approve that I make a simple web-page with prices and phone numbers?

@Triple Seven It is, why can someone make a discord that is approved, but when I try to do it "breaks OOC", metagaming and all of that. I think that is weird because I have stated multiple times that admins will have all rights in the discord, there are only text channels and none of them are for chatting.

@NoewUH

"We try to create a realistic environment" then why are supercars banned and bulletproof vests are impossible to get your hands on? Do you feel like we should change the game to make it more realistic or to keep it as a game? I think that the police should have better eqipment than criminals, but a discord that gives people easier access to guns is not changing any dynamics, just making it easier to be a criminal. Which most moderators obviously is against looking at the reasoning in this thread, as the rules changes for what is allowed and not based on who does it. There is no argument that is gonna change that. [added: @FatherOsbornHD]

@FatherOsbornHD I'm not saying that everyone would be educated on using the deep web, or anything, but this is a game and I don't understand why the rules on uses of discord should change just becasue we don't sell cars or give out loans. @Triple Seven I'm not sure how I would set up that website, and if a website would be approved, why not a discord with the same options as that website would have? We have no room for a common text chat or voice chat. So this would be the same as a simple webpage, just a lot easier to handle.

The voice channel will be disabled, admins (those that want to) will be added. The only thing this discord will be used for is showing prices, and the phone numbers. Just the same as all the loan offices and car dealerships. As for criminals discussing OOC - all criminal factions have a discord where they can do that if they feel like doing metagaming. (everything will also be IC on the discord) The only difference between this discord and other discords that are approved is the merchandise we are selling. @NoewUH

@Flucifial?

The only thing that will go on in the discord is that people would see prices, after that they would call or text us. As for the "keep it out of discord" - this would be a very small not at all game changing group as the ones that can afford guns IC is the ones with good enaugh contacts the get them anyways, this would just save some time. If the goal is the keep things off discord it would be better to remove the car dealerships' discords for example. As they too are just saving time for the user. @Flucifial

Hey, @Flucifial, why is it like that? IRL there are a deep web that would provide services like this, and the police would be able to shut it down if they find out who owns it ICly. I don't see any practical difference between what we want to do and what the dealerships already have.

Hey people! Me and a few friends have been thinking about making a deepweb site (discord) like the car dealerships/loan offices have. Just that we want to sell drugs and guns. Would this break any rules on the server? Here is a link to our idea: https://discord.gg/xH8Rss What will the community think about this? +1 if you like it -1 if you don’t