Quietthecutie Posted April 13, 2025 Report Posted April 13, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Melodiz Bashkimi said: No I'm being dead serious, that would probably triple the amount of criminals online + give other players motivation to play + make PD less OP indirectly For context staff do everything they can to NOT ban people. They are highly motivated to avoid it if all possible because every player banned is one less player on the server potentially spending money Point being if you got perma banned you did something so shitty that staff literally said "No Thankyou, take your money elseware." Now people can and do change and show remorse. Which is why we have the appeals system. So staff can look at each appeal case by case and carefully let people back into the server. What youre asking would quite literally turn the server into the purge for a month. Edited April 13, 2025 by Quietthecutie Quote
Melodiz Bashkimi Posted April 14, 2025 Report Posted April 14, 2025 9 hours ago, Quietthecutie said: For context staff do everything they can to NOT ban people. They are highly motivated to avoid it if all possible because every player banned is one less player on the server potentially spending money Point being if you got perma banned you did something so shitty that staff literally said "No Thankyou, take your money elseware." Now people can and do change and show remorse. Which is why we have the appeals system. So staff can look at each appeal case by case and carefully let people back into the server. What youre asking would quite literally turn the server into the purge for a month. I hear that and I also agree with you that staff don't try banning people unless there's no other option. Breaking the rules happens to most players especially if you've played for a long time - accidents/honest mistakes can happen. DSO/toxicity is not an accident/honest mistakes and players who actively engage in these activities should not be unbanned A cheeky unban wave would motivate alot of players including myself to come back to the server and sharpen the edge of the crim side of the server Quote
Jordan Posted April 14, 2025 Report Posted April 14, 2025 30 minutes ago, Melodiz Bashkimi said: I hear that and I also agree with you that staff don't try banning people unless there's no other option. Breaking the rules happens to most players especially if you've played for a long time - accidents/honest mistakes can happen. DSO/toxicity is not an accident/honest mistakes and players who actively engage in these activities should not be unbanned A cheeky unban wave would motivate alot of players including myself to come back to the server and sharpen the edge of the crim side of the server again this isn't a fix to the server at all. If anyone was banned for something like DM, Non-RP, or otherwise, you had to of been caught doing it multiple times meaning its no longer an accident. I believe this would make the problem considerably worse. Quote
Quietthecutie Posted April 14, 2025 Report Posted April 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Melodiz Bashkimi said: I hear that and I also agree with you that staff don't try banning people unless there's no other option. Breaking the rules happens to most players especially if you've played for a long time - accidents/honest mistakes can happen. DSO/toxicity is not an accident/honest mistakes and players who actively engage in these activities should not be unbanned A cheeky unban wave would motivate alot of players including myself to come back to the server and sharpen the edge of the crim side of the server You seem to have missed the point of what i said. so sod it lets take another swing at it. There is a long line of things staff can do to educate, deter, and ultimately punish people from breaking the rules. this ranges from speaking to em, educating them, warnings, admin jail, temp bans and finally perma bans. For someone to get permanently booted off this server. you need to have proven beyond any reasonable doubt, that you are more trouble than you are worth. to the point staff are actively willing to lose money, to effectively pay you to not play on their server. This is wild and super important to bear in mind when it comes to how much of a negative influence you must be in order to make this happen. they are literally willing to lose activity on the server and lose money to get rid of you. With all that in mind, I frankly dont wanna play with a player who got perma banned. UNLESS, they submit an appeal, show the right amount of remorse, get reintegrated into the community and can be closely be monitored by staff during this time to make sure it all goes smoothly. None of which can happen with a "cheeky unban wave " I understand that you wanna play with your friends again who fucked up and got banned because staff thought the server was better off without them. this can be acomplished. but only on a case by case basis. this isnt a Nandos. we dont do cheeky. Quote
Quietthecutie Posted April 14, 2025 Report Posted April 14, 2025 3 hours ago, Melodiz Bashkimi said: if you've played for a long time - accidents/honest mistakes can happen. DSO/toxicity is not an accident/honest mistakes and players who actively engage in these activities should not be unbanned Also just gonna lean on this, this is provably not how the perma ban system works. If someone gets hit with a minor infraction, like NRP or DM or VDM, you have several attempts to rectify your behaviour which IS actively monitored by staff. its not a simple 3 strikes and youre out protocol. In order for this kind of behaviour to progress to a perma ban you have to basically put staff in a position where they see you are not going to change how you play, how you conduct yourself or how you care about the server. People DO NOT get perma banned over genuine mistakes. They get banned because its clear they dont give a fuck, and wont change how they play. If some time after they are banned they have matured and changed their mindset, they are free to submit an appeal to demonstrate that and try to regain access to the server. Most of them dont want that tho and just bugger off to the next server down the road. and good luck to em. Quote
Melodiz Bashkimi Posted April 14, 2025 Report Posted April 14, 2025 (edited) 17 hours ago, Quietthecutie said: Also just gonna lean on this, this is provably not how the perma ban system works. If someone gets hit with a minor infraction, like NRP or DM or VDM, you have several attempts to rectify your behaviour which IS actively monitored by staff. its not a simple 3 strikes and youre out protocol. In order for this kind of behaviour to progress to a perma ban you have to basically put staff in a position where they see you are not going to change how you play, how you conduct yourself or how you care about the server. People DO NOT get perma banned over genuine mistakes. They get banned because its clear they dont give a fuck, and wont change how they play. If some time after they are banned they have matured and changed their mindset, they are free to submit an appeal to demonstrate that and try to regain access to the server. Most of them dont want that tho and just bugger off to the next server down the road. and good luck to em. I don't want to sidetrack from the point of this thread but I understand completely what you're saying, it is true. My point is that criminals should have a bit of a numbers advantage despite the fact that it's unrealistic, this is not to ensure that every time PD pulls someone over 30 people pull up, but to ensure that PD are busy enough to be unable to deploy 10+ people for a minor chase. Either bring more crims in the server or reduce the amount of police (or cheeky unban wave 3ramiz) Edited April 14, 2025 by Melodiz Bashkimi 1 Quote
Diligo Posted April 15, 2025 Report Posted April 15, 2025 2 hours ago, Melodiz Bashkimi said: My point is that criminals should have a bit of a numbers advantage despite the fact that it's unrealistic, this is not to ensure that every time PD pulls someone over 30 people pull up, but to ensure that PD are busy enough to be unable to deploy 10+ people for a minor chase. i dont want to interact with LEO's more than I need to.. and I am not going to go and get some cops on my ass just so you could get less on yours. Game is game, be discreet or seethe! Quote
Melodiz Bashkimi Posted April 15, 2025 Report Posted April 15, 2025 12 hours ago, Diligo said: i dont want to interact with LEO's more than I need to.. and I am not going to go and get some cops on my ass just so you could get less on yours. Game is game, be discreet or seethe! I think you are completely misunderstanding what I am saying. No one's asking you to get more cops on your ass, I'm simply mentioning that if there are more criminals, PD will have to deal with multiple situations at once thus making it impossible to unify all of their online members to chase one car. Quote
Diligo Posted April 15, 2025 Report Posted April 15, 2025 3 hours ago, Melodiz Bashkimi said: I think you are completely misunderstanding what I am saying. No one's asking you to get more cops on your ass, I'm simply mentioning that if there are more criminals, PD will have to deal with multiple situations at once thus making it impossible to unify all of their online members to chase one car. ah okay misunderstood you sadly new crims if they dont find a home soon enough they get discouraged because of rollers and clappers. therefore sadly less and less people tryout crim rp and just go to PD to get some action or go and play somewhere else completely. its not server needing an unban wave, its the server community that needs to change to be more welcoming, but that aint gonna happen!! the more solos youve robbed the more PD on yo tail, skibidi Quote