Washing clothes at home

[Diligo]

So like washing marked money is cool and all and I rarely get any interactions at public laundromats(dont know if server intended that) but why cant we just buy washing machines and place them at home and just do the washing at home?

We already went through the risk of getting the packed money, traveling with it, not getting spotted selling to the dealers and we still need to go and wash it to get the extra bit on top of it.
Of course nothing is forced, nobody forces me to wash the marked money but at the same time nobody forces me to be a crim but i still do it and so yeah - public laundromats dont make sense to me.

I think it is nowhere near the private lab type of money printing, and i dont think there is any difference of washing money at home or at a public laundromat.

So why dont we just implement it? We clearly still need to go rob a bank, a store or a house to get the packed money first, then we need to safely sell everything to the respective dealers and then afterwards we still need to go to a public place and wash it.

Im thinking about the cost of the washing machine would be like 20k at the furniture store. Only 1 available to be placed in 1 interior, maybe longer time(or the same, doesnt really matter) and yeah lets get it done.

I dont even know how to add any negatives to it, to balance it out, because to be fair, it is not money printing like cooking drugs, so i dont think there should be any explosions or sounds or whatever.

And if the community still thinks that it would be a private money factory, then in that case why private chops exist? Yeah they got the sound and all, but washing the extra bit of money is nothing compared to what you can make while private chopping all day without getting noticed.

Thoughts?

 

P.S. I have never been robbed at Public laundromats so this is not made out of frustration

Edited March 26, 2025 by Diligo

[Ritchie Stones]

yeah dream on XD these guys want you to get robbed XD they will never ever again put something inside another dimension XDXD

[Quietthecutie]

Yeah this is just fundamentally a step in the wrong direction imo.

Marked money as it currently works is like a bonus level to the process of unpacking packed cash. you did your stores/robbed a bank, hit an ATM whatever and then once the heat dies off you take it to a dealer to get it converted into actual bankable cash and he also hands over some marked bills at this point. if you want to run the risk of getting caught you can then convert this marked cash into more bankable cash by washing it.

The risk/reward RP of this comes from the fact you have to use a public wash to do it. If what OP is suggesting was implemented, its just 5 mins for them to sit in their crib, waiting for it to finish. no risk, no reward, and no RP. might as well just skip the step and stop marked money being a thing.

Edited March 27, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[Diligo]

7 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

The risk/reward RP of this comes from the fact you have to use a public wash to do it. If what OP is suggesting was implemented, its just 5 mins for them to sit in their crib, waiting for it to finish. no risk, no reward, and no RP. might as well just skip the step and stop marked money being a thing.

the risk is high for low reward, that is not criminal business, that is Non-RP.

the rewards for having to risk ourselves getting robbed for that is not good enough.

but you are looking to the wrong way in this discussion, its not about how much, its about the point of it, and there is no point because it is a circle, a washing machine, going round and round.

there is a different approach. I believe mixing the Risk vs Rewards system in every crim suggesstion will not get us to any conclusion.

We need to find our way to understand each other and therefore finding out that there is a lot to agree on, especially this.

 

1 washing machine per interior will win this year's Update of the Year Award

[Night]

I imagine part of this is wanting people to be able to be encouraged to engage with the server. There are some systems in place that discourage people from being able to just stay within in one place or their own home and not engage with the dynamics of risk and interaction in the server.

While realistically you may have access to these resources OOCly and be able to do this, this is a RP server and relies on being able to interact with each other to keep the server healthy and active.

This is not a factful statement, but my assumption based off feedback from other suggestions that could have similar results if implemented. I do understand that the response may be that there are things in place such as private drug making and chop shops.

[Diligo]

9 minutes ago, Night said:

I imagine part of this is wanting people to be able to be encouraged to engage with the server. There are some systems in place that discourage people from being able to just stay within in one place or their own home and not engage with the dynamics of risk and interaction in the server.

With all due respect, it would be 5 minutes at home, not 8 hours per day every day private cooking or private chopping. Sometimes I sit at home just managing and sorting things in my safes and so on. It takes more than an hour if i decide to suddenly refurniture my place.

0 interactions doing those things, so i dont get why 5 minutes at home washing money would suddenly change the activity in the server.

[SquirtleSquad]

14 minutes ago, Diligo said:

With all due respect, it would be 5 minutes at home, not 8 hours per day every day private cooking or private chopping. Sometimes I sit at home just managing and sorting things in my safes and so on. It takes more than an hour if i decide to suddenly refurniture my place.

0 interactions doing those things, so i dont get why 5 minutes at home washing money would suddenly change the activity in the server.

I can see either side of this. This could potentially expand people into opening up their own private shop where they launder for crims at a tax, allows for expanded operations for LEO's, but also this would ultimately just completely kill off laundry mats entirely. Like there would be no point in going to one of the public ones at all. 20k is not that hard to make to get started. 

I see pros and cons to it, but I don't think with the general direction of wanting more interactions, more politics, that this would be integrated.

[Diligo]

2 minutes ago, SquirtleSquad said:

I can see either side of this. This could potentially expand people into opening up their own private shop where they launder for crims at a tax, allows for expanded operations for LEO's, but also this would ultimately just completely kill off laundry mats entirely. Like there would be no point in going to one of the public ones at all. 20k is not that hard to make to get started. 

I see pros and cons to it, but I don't think with the general direction of wanting more interactions, more politics, that this would be integrated.

Hah here you scored a bullseye for me Squirtle - You just made a business idea and making business is the most fun interactions I have had in this server. Make the Washing machine... 50k, 100k!!! So it only repays after a time,
If i tell a CI or a CI overhears that I have a washing machine at home, that is heaven for LEOs to raid then
Public laundromats will be still useful for new guys or those who dont want to spend absurd money on something at home if it only will repay itself idk after 50 uses, 100.... 200 uses???
at that time many ways i can be caught especially if i do business and help out others who dont want to invest that much but could give something in return.

Which again are interactions which you and the community support and I do too, there are multitude ways of roleplay opportunities if we can have just one washing machine at home.

Better yet, make it only that gangs can order it... maybe even only tier 6 and up?
Make it 50 volume
If I wash money at one of my appartments in appartment buildings, what if someone hops on to my floor by accident or not and hears a washing machine noise in the corridor? (meaning dont even need to enter)

Cops could then have raiding opportunities, maybe a civilian calls the cops, maybe a CI.

If you would reintroduce private labs but every piece of equipment would cost 1 million $, not everyone would buy it, maybe even when you set a limit on how many can be placed.

My whole idea is dont get rid of opportunities, just make them cost too much for anyone to even consider.

If I would have to pay a million to a gang of tier 7 or tier 8 just get a washing machine at home, I would pay it because comfort is just as valuable as time.

[Ritchie Stones]

9 hours ago, Diligo said:

With all due respect, it would be 5 minutes at home, not 8 hours per day every day private cooking or private chopping. Sometimes I sit at home just managing and sorting things in my safes and so on. It takes more than an hour if i decide to suddenly refurniture my place.

0 interactions doing those things, so i dont get why 5 minutes at home washing money would suddenly change the activity in the server.

its more that, those 5 minuts you spend outside washing the money could trigger an rp even that could result in hours of escalating events.

[Quietthecutie]

10 hours ago, Diligo said:

Cops could then have raiding opportunities

Cops already have raiding opportunities aplenty. The reason more raids are not executed is in the name of balance. not because they cannot find evidence for raids. If cops and JB pursued all raids without any kind of handbrake on, half the guns on the server would immediately go zip.

10 hours ago, Diligo said:

My whole idea is dont get rid of opportunities, just make them cost too much for anyone to even consider.

This is also a wild take imo. So the reasoning here is that the super rich crims should have an easier method to get even richer? like realtalk for a second, every point im reading here just looks like window dressing for "I would like a much safer way to process marked money." If this is not the case, then the current system should be fine.

1 hour ago, Ritchie Stones said:

its more that, those 5 minuts you spend outside washing the money could trigger an rp even that could result in hours of escalating events.

Basically this.

As I said, the difference is in being visible in the city, moving to a location where crims are RPly aware why you are going there (cops are not Rply aware but they can investigate.)  

This generates RP and interactions with other people and factions. it creates activity. It forces you to ask "I have about X amount of marked cash, do I wish to risk it on a wash run or will I wait?" Actions, consequences, all that Jazz 

sticking a wash machine inside your property for me is simply a lite version of private cooking. on a very small scale, ill grant you, but all evidence suggests its still not the direction the devs want the server to go in.

Edited March 28, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[Diligo]

12 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

This generates RP and interactions with other people and factions. it creates activity. It forces you to ask "I have about X amount of marked cash, do I wish to risk it on a wash run or will I wait?" Actions, consequences, all that Jazz 

sticking a wash machine inside your property for me is simply a lite version of private cooking. on a very small scale, ill grant you, but all evidence suggests its still not the direction the devs want the server to go in.

So it is roleplay to possibly enter a PvP situation every time washing money in a public laundromat

but it is not roleplay to clean each others money to make business?

With all due respect it only shows the limitations of RP, set by Devs/Staff, not possibilities and escalations.
 

12 hours ago, Quietthecutie said:

This is also a wild take imo. So the reasoning here is that the super rich crims should have an easier method to get even richer? like realtalk for a second,

AS this is not important to the topic, I will downsize the font of the next couple of paragraphs.
That idea was just spurted out. Not one to latch on. That is a whole different forum post, but if you want to talk about it here then consider this -
What if I have done my time in labs, want to invest a million to have access to a limited one table per interior setup to cook blunts and nothing more? It is extremely dumb investment if I wanted to make more money, but in the scale of things, having a couple of blunts cooking wouldnt damage the server's RP not even in the slightest bit.

Literally from what I heard that was previously it was almost unlimited amounts of tables and people only had to go to humane labs to buy ingredients and grocery stores to buy water. Yeah that I agree was kind of stupid to begin with, almost NO ROLEPLAY whatsoever, but it happened, people made money, but still people HAD to sit there and wait and check on the tables if they didnt want them to explode or whatever. Tedious task.

What I spurted out is whole different story, I am talking about not removing things, but making them unimaginably stupid to consider if you are in the money making game. SO buying one table, would cost too much and the ROI would be astronomically low.

If the point is to get RP then my suggestions are always to get that and more of that, not less of it.

Washing machines should be able to be purchased, they money I make from cleaning the money is often times nothing that I would go and lose additional weapons for. BUT if I intend to PvP which of course is no problem for me, then yeah I would bring a gun and lets go pew pew, but seeing that multiple people get banned for having more damage logs than '/me`s" with the explanation "NRP | PvP Mentality" "Ban Duration: Permanent"

That gets me confused, because PvP is fun but shouldnt be all the server has to offer.. but the public laundromat is a PvP zone.. Not so much different RP would be going down there than getting robbed.. anyways...

For example I go rob a house - RP possibilities are huge (getting robbed and all), I transfer the goods and then sell the packed money to a guy (still can get robbed) then I need to go to wash the money(AGAIN can get robbed) - additional RP possibilites.

But those all are PvP RP posibilities not so much ''Hey man, i see you make a lot of money and youre good at it, wanna work for me'' RP.

But yeah, hopefully the Devs and Staff hear me and the upvoters out.

Edited March 28, 2025 by Diligo

[Diligo]

14 hours ago, Ritchie Stones said:

its more that, those 5 minuts you spend outside washing the money could trigger an rp even that could result in hours of escalating events.

Forgot to mention in my last reply

 

I didnt suggest removing public laundromats, if you want to get RP by getting robbed and get the hours of escalating events, go and do it, i dont know what would that be exactly, but yeah..

I only suggested what I suggested in the original post. Add something that would have a lot of negatives to have it, but at least gives comfort after spending multiple hours in roleplay possibilites that would get you robbed

[Quietthecutie]

1 hour ago, Diligo said:

So it is roleplay to possibly enter a PvP situation every time washing money in a public laundromat

Yes, Yes it is. welcome to a GTA RP server. Where we want you to get into conflict and interactions on the map. if you want to secure a public location and ransom it to others for safe passage go ahead. no ones stopping you doing that.

1 hour ago, Diligo said:

AS this is not important to the topic, I will downsize the font of the next couple of paragraphs.

As your font is so aggressively small. im not going to bother to read it and just presume it is pointless twaddle in the face of facts. if its something other than that. increase the font as this is the most childish way ive ever seen someone to try to get a point across...by literally hiding it as best they can...so... good job on getting the point across that you dont have a point...

Edited March 28, 2025 by Quietthecutie

[Ritchie Stones]

I think cloths should get a life expectancy like the gloves, but. Way more durable. And you can increase the life expectancy by washing it

[Cup]

let me wash my microfiber for the love of god =(