[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

After taking time to consider some options. I will follow the advice given and will take this to IC.

Although I consider some of my points should be taken in consideration regardless.

 

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

Thank you for your time and  help @dawpi !

As I stated , I followed the law. Both IC rules and OOC rules.
Got everything in place for a good RP. And I was given bad RP experience in return by the rules that I followed themselves and what a couple officers instructed me to do in RP. ( getting a license / permit for the mask from medics)

I am also aware that the mask rules are in place because people rely on /alias for everything . I got a negative opinion on that too ..but that's not the matter here.

And about writing IC on the government website. I would probably get a negative feedback just like I did here.

Telling me its an IC issue, while I clearly stated OOC reasons for the having the discussion in the first place...how is that supposed to fix anything?

That just looks like the easy way out with 0 effort. After I went through the effort in stating my point of view and providing information in @arcangel's message. Everything has been ignored.

I can't as 1 person change the rules you had in place for who knows how long. I see that now.

I understand now that nothing can be done after hearing answers from Administration , Support Staff and a few other members.

Sorry for wasting your time with this and I hope no one got offended in any way.

Thank you for your help.

 

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

4 hours ago, arcangel said:

As others have stated, this is an IC issue.

It is Enforced on an IC level because the law created is IC.

Then , by your own rules I would be able to call out fail FearRP and report every police officer that forces me to take it off without asking any questions while sitting in my face.
If that were the case and I had saved all POV's , I could have roughly reported ~20 officers. And I doubt they would have been dealt with in any way.

In terms of realism, prior to covid, there are very minimal reasons to be wearing a mask. Where I live you can only wear a mask for religious or medical reasons.

Why would you assume that that is the way it should be just because of your limited knowledge or because you didn't see it where you live ? There are plenty of deadly diseases that are airborne and have people wear a mask for a long time. (Yes deadly...people don't die just because of covid)

I have seen people roleplay a hijab using the cloth mask without a face part but it still covers identity. -> Not relevant to my situation.

If there was a mask that looked like a medical grade mask I'm sure it wouldn't be such an issue, but there isn't.
People who have to wear a mask for a long time will usually get them stylized and with a hidden ventilating / purifying system in them.
The mask that I'm specifying OX BLOOD DOME FILTER  looks like a regular stylised medical grade mask .  Covers only mouth and nose , looks like it has a hidden ventilation system and is red. ? How is this not realistic ? Proof if needed https://imgur.com/apKdsbD This looks almost exactly like the one I'm talking about. It's just red in game.

On a final note this post seems like more of an issue with policing which again is an IC issue.

**You see it as an IC issue that can be dealt with IC. I see it as bad RP in general. The only problem here is that my point makes sense in RP.
I shouldn't have to go to a police officer and tell him how to do his basic duties in real life. He would have undergone training and having experience in the field would know how to deal with a small issue like this.

Laws are not created by cops in real life, they are created by the government and UPHELD by the police. Would you berate a janitor for the way he is payed to clean?
Not relevant as I explained in **.

Work with what you have available to you and move forward with IC means to improve or change laws.


As an ending. @arcangel Please don't take what I say personally or in a hateful way , for IRL reasons I want to RP with a mask on hence why I'm dedicated to this topic and I may come out sounding angry at you. Which is not the case.
Also I don't want to compare this server to others , because they are not comparable. But I haven't had to deal with this issue anywhere else.

 

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

@tylxrrrHow would it be a IC issue if the cop does not show any regard for his wellbeing? It's on the lines of FearRP rules? It's simply bad RP in general....

Also don't take it the wrong way ...but determining if it's IC or OCC is not the issue here...and will not help fixing it either.

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

1 minute ago, tylxrrr said:

Yeah, I mean it is up to the cop if they care. I am sure there are cops IRL that don't care if you have medical reasons or not. That is the IC part. You could IA report them, etc.

A cop IRL wouldn't see someone with a mask on that covers mouth / nose...and it's obviously used for medical reason.
Then ask them to take it off without getting any info about why they are wearing it.
They could...but that would be just plain stupid. As you didn't bother on getting any info about the illness the guy has and could get your own life in danger. 

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

@tylxrrr Thx for the info. 

But we both know that if a cop would see a /do with the example you showed.. They would give 0 shits and still try to find a way to force it on me.
They got pissed when I tried to RP it out. I got no doubt that doing what you suggested will have the same effect.

I followed the rules both IC and OOC and I've been given bad RP in exchange, that's what's ticking me off.

And I'm posting here and consider it both IC and OOC because the post itself contains too much OOC info to be posted anywhere else.
And if posted in the IC section I would have to miss out on many details that would make the post what it's meant to be.

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

It is both ic and ooc details. I can't post this on gov website with these details @Bala.

 

[Face Mask Rules GC-06 , GM-20. Fail RP.]

I'm going to cut straight to the chase and then go into some details later in the message. Sorry for the long post in advance.

TL:DR : So I've just wasted a good 30-45 minutes of good RP with a medic because of a rule.

I'm frustrated because I took all the RP steps to do it right and the medic (will only give her name if needed) was so awesome ... enjoyed the experience a lot.

I want to really wear a mask(more as a fashion component THIS IS MY OOC REASON) . in game without being bruteforced by any cop that passes by me to take it off .The mask itself (OX BLOOD DOME FILTER) only covers the nose/mouth and my character stands out easily. You could identify me from a mile away. I take it off with RP involved asking them to step back a bit etc. RPing the situation out. And they get even more pissed when I do that.

I tried to RP my way out of it for medical reasons etc. I was confronted by a few cops saying that I should get a license / permit call it what you want. In order to wear a mask " lawfully".
But  most times literally 2 seconds of a cop seeing me this happens:

Every cop comes in my face and starts spazzing out saying "TAKE OFF YOUR MASK" 20 times like I'm doing a robbery or some shit. In an angry voice.
Ask me why I'm wearing a mask. Get some RP going, some interaction. I'm bored of this already and I haven't even been here for so long.

Some guy literally showed up and again after 2 seconds..."asked" me to take the mask off. I asked him nicely to tell me why I can't wear one....Without no more RP between us he goes like. " Take it of or I'm gonna fine you / write you a citation or w/e". ( "good RP")

So the RP with the medic ended when the admins or whoever they were. Told the medic that she is not allowed to give me that....After she RPed giving me a notice  for my mask.
And....now comes the fun part admin told her that I SHOULD RP WEARING ONE DOING /MY /ME...
How do you RP that? Without the character having an actual mask on his face.....this breaks the RP so hard...it would be such a bad RP experience....it's not even funny. Am I supposed to spam the chat ? /wears a mask for health reasons .....

Anyway here are the rules I'm talking about

GC06 :
(a) No individual, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, shall:
(1) Be present on foot within public property, or property of the State of San Andreas.
(2) Hold any manner of meeting or demonstration.

(b) The provisions of subsection (a) of this section are only a general citation if the face obstruction is not removed upon request by a Law Enforcement officer, and if not committed in relation to a crime, whereas then it shall apply to GM#20.

(c) The provisions of subsection (a) do not apply if the concealment is done during masquerades and other entertainment events that are deemed appropriate by the city (such as Halloween), or where there's reasonable cause e.g. motorcycle protection or medical reasons.

(d )Individuals that are continuously stopped and written up for GC-06 will be liable for prosecution for failure to comply at the discretion of the handling officer. This would also result in the GC - 06 escalating to a GM - 20.

This turned out into more of a rant than it should have been.

I understand that people will still wear masks they are there for a reason.
My problem is with every cop coming into my face and ruining my RP that I'm having with someone.

I would be having a good RP with others at times and out of nowhere a cop would see me....turn back from their way and start spitting into my face...yelling at me to take my mask off.