Changes to New Player inventory after death

[EimaTrG]

• Who is the suggestion for?
  - Honestly this is for everyone as it could involve PD and Crims all in all

• Why is the suggestion being made?
  - It removes something that cant be helped with by the staff and it would improve quality of RP for PD as they could recover illegal items from dead players with the ((New Player)) tag

• What are the pros and/or cons of the suggestion?
  - Honestly Pros are that we can have the guns after killing of a new player and or taken from them by their friends on the scene and would improve the RP over all.
  Cons - would be that its just a bit more coding.
  
  I am leaving a lot of it on a discussion basis as I just ran into this and lost out on some weapons as I see new players with 500 XP driving around with a pump shotgun and all sorts of weaponry and when we kill them there is just no reward or anything like that when they shoot at us

[Diligo]

((new player)) means introduce them to the server not specifically wait for them to do something illegal like having a gun on their back to rob them.
What if you could have told the guy/girl how to manage their inventory space so they dont need to have their shotgun on their back?
-1 to this suggestion, protect the new players!!!

[GoldieShort]

Interesting.

I get the pov from people saying "protect the new players" but is them not being lootable actually protecting them? if so, from what?
The only thing I could think of is people killing them just to take their shit, but that would be DM which is an entirely different issue.
New players are already protected in a sense. "no scamming/robbing them if they haven't done anything illegal" (not an exact quote but something like that).
I do agree that there are quite often "New players" rolling labs just to push and rob others and it doesnt make sense that you cant take their shit if they die because of that.

I think this could be an interesting topic to see if we can come up with something to rebalance the fairness while protecting them from the wrong kind of mentality players. (Which there are plenty, when I had the "new player" tag I got scammed at every attempted gun purchase. After the tag was gone, suddenly no scams anymore o.0)

[Diligo]

24 minutes ago, GoldieShort said:

Interesting.

I get the pov from people saying "protect the new players" but is them not being lootable actually protecting them? if so, from what?
The only thing I could think of is people killing them just to take their shit, but that would be DM which is an entirely different issue.
New players are already protected in a sense. "no scamming/robbing them if they haven't done anything illegal" (not an exact quote but something like that).
I do agree that there are quite often "New players" rolling labs just to push and rob others and it doesnt make sense that you cant take their shit if they die because of that.

I think this could be an interesting topic to see if we can come up with something to rebalance the fairness while protecting them from the wrong kind of mentality players. (Which there are plenty, when I had the "new player" tag I got scammed at every attempted gun purchase. After the tag was gone, suddenly no scams anymore o.0)

real talk G i just imagined a situation where OP just saw a new player with a pump (probably looted a body) on a faggio or in warrener and decided to take that guy down.
I could have new player tag and get shotgun license realistically is possible. pump on back is not illegal. ak47 when not in police uniform is. idk i think if new player is willingly getting into shootouts in active drug labs - its not new player its ban evader lets be honest here, what percentage actually are eclipse twitch streamer fans joining this server?

with the right knowledge of connections and lab locations, skills and guns and possible metagaming with previous gang members, you can easily get back to your financial prowess. 1 million a week easy task when ya gang waiting for ya back ya know what i mean hehe

but if it is new player with a shotgun in warrener, just tell him to hide it or remove the bullets/shells to have place in glove compartment not just tryna get that loot babyyyy

[EimaTrG]

Sorry for the confusion that is what I mean by saying that we should be able to loot it is the new players with he tag that involve themselves in a lab and so on doing stuff pulling a gun on a me or anyone I am good with and it's not like I mean it in a way like we shouldn't teach them but ones that go along and insert themselves in shootouts and stuff like that, I totally agree that we should protect them ans teach them but not the ones that shoot at us and after killing them we cant evem take the gun off of them before they bleed out or get accidentally finished, I meant that we should be able to take the illegal stuff on them and not all of the other items. Thanks for the feed back tho!

[Diligo]

13 minutes ago, EimaTrG said:

Sorry for the confusion that is what I mean by saying that we should be able to loot it is the new players with he tag that involve themselves in a lab and so on doing stuff pulling a gun on a me or anyone I am good with and it's not like I mean it in a way like we shouldn't teach them but ones that go along and insert themselves in shootouts and stuff like that, I totally agree that we should protect them ans teach them but not the ones that shoot at us and after killing them we cant evem take the gun off of them before they bleed out or get accidentally finished, I meant that we should be able to take the illegal stuff on them and not all of the other items. Thanks for the feed back tho!

guns aren`t inherently illegal. some guns are. i kind of dont believe the devs will agree on this. i rather watch new player tags carefully though, these days most of them already know what they doin

Edited December 3, 2024 by Nikolia