Ritchie Stones

i see your point, but real evidence of this what I call freedom is, for example, private chops, you can see how much that spark of freedom is appreciated by everyone, not everyone can afford it or dares to take the risk or has no good location for it, but you can see how much appreciation there is for such thing like a private chop, what personally about the labs bothers me most is the "inconsistency" I don't feel like passing by at least 20 labs to find a spot that I feel is more safe to cook, and then still be unlucky, I want to be able to log on, and have the security that my desire will be fulfilled, and with 6 active labs between +30 labs rotating, I sometimes log in and think, okay none of the labs that I feel are safe enough for me is available, so.... i log out, I don't mind the public labs to much, except for its inconsistency, lack of meaningful interaction, and not being able to scale dreams up, I think... both options public labs, and tabels open on the map + growing weed everywhere, sounds like a idea that can get everyone's needs met, or at least if the server would try it out for a month or 2 and see what happens

i think people just want their freedom back, for being able to make drugs when and where they want to, the idea of more public labs looked good on paper, but in reality its a PVP loop, and before that part you also have to first go through +- 30 labs to find an active one.... its inconsistent and you are better off just doing a hunting job. or even a normal job, for all the effort you have to put into drugs making, eventually to make a bit more then a regular job, at least you can get started right away. where ppl have freedom they create a sense of destiny and purpose that they feel in control about, and you create a unique storyline. now with the public labs only, it feels like most of our freedom is taken away and we are "indirectly" forced to participate into an RP scenario that is based of a specific group of people that enjoy only pvp, and leaves a solid grinding and RP base in the cold. on top of that the meaning is taken away. eclipse used to have mostly meaningful interactions, because you had to build up relationships with ppl in order to get to tables, and other materials, the longer you where in the game the better your connections grew over the years. that is how you feel like somebody, because of the people you surround yourself with. even as a solo crim you could still be someone who had many ppl around you. also scaling is part of the past, back then we went from RV, to houses to.... better houses to bussiness. you could reinvest your earnings into scaling your drug production, making relationships even more important and reason to sustain them over the long run, because that was your foundation to build upon. there is no more reason to do any of this anymore because the smartest thing you can do is have a bf400 sit in a lab, dip and avoid the PVP that has little to do with RP, I genuinely struggle to understand where the developers had figured at one point, to prefer PVP interactions over a grinding RP mindset. when it was the clapper mentality that they originally wanted to get rid off. or maybe it is a very good idea simply gone the wrong direction. because it seems like the only group of people now that are having fun are the clappers hehe. and the rest of us, the grinders and RP'rs have been pushed to the background with very little meaning. i have been in a pvp gang for sometime to see if it was something for me, it looks cool, but its very demanding, it expects a lot from you, and you have to specifically like pvp a lot to keep up with it. and... please just give our freedom back XD

simple reality check, NOBODY IS USING IT. why... because its an invention that is nothing more but a wild fantasy. but the reality is that you are boxed in by cops in less than a minute, and have few more to go, so why bother all that misery for only 4k at best I notice over the last few years the server is having actually amazing idea's but then go about completely overcomplicating things, to the point nobody touches even ground on it. i think when you implement something and people don't use it, its time to ask question. and I really wonder why the server doesn't just try out some experiments, for example take the GPS tracker away for a month and see what happens, do people start doing them more and are the cops also happy about it, because they get more action in it to ?.

I been saying this for years upfront, there is no meaningfull RP in public labs, at least with private labs you where motivated to keep connections and it created meaningfull bonds with people, now everyone is kinda on their own, the highest form of RP now is to dip from a lab hoping to scrab some profit, the server is falling appart in terms of connecting with eachother, its getting more lonely by the months

okay then, ill just pay at least 3 million for my 3 most favorite super cars to go maybe 25 km faster. XD

loving the HSW option to come to the game, but I would heavy consider its pricing, most of the server rarely makes it above 1 mil, at least it takes them a very long time to do so, back when the private labs this idea would be more sustainable, but nowadays making a mill is way harder and far more inconsistent, and I'm not sure many are willing to pay such high amount, when the same money could be invested into something like a house, that gains value overtime, and ppl having multiple cars, this is going to be very heavy to lift. maybe 250k would be doable, especially for ppl with more cars, I cant imagine spending 5 mill on topping 5 cars altho I have 7.5 mil atm, I don't see a 1 mill value per car, so its locking out majority of player base, about the lowered stance and tires etc, top notch work devs loving it

yeah like, pulling out a vending machine with a car, the devs these days succeed to implement something that sounds actually really amazing, but then they ruin it, by over complicating things, like, just let us have some fun and make money, but no, lets slow down the car so much and lets put a GPS up their asses, for long enough for them to be locked ibn my the first 2 minutes, like yes, we are getting other things to do... but at what cost, 3 years ago things could be scaled with the private labs, ppl had a purpose, they could always reinvest. but somehow the narrative was created that it did not create any RP, and somehow most of us are still convinced that sitting in a public lab waiting to get robbed with even less RP then making deals for tables and selling drugs to your personal connection is somewhat a better option, but in 4 years total,all I have seen is the shift towards, less RP, less players active, less connections, less money making, less of everything, just because " private labs doesn't create RP" just bring it back, ppl was waaaaay more active in everything. and yes it had some controversies, but it brought something good with it

people sending texts over eachother in places where they should not, like being in prison and then go to the app or website, meanwhile in prison you should have such access to that source, I know its strickly IC and should not be used in those instances. that's why its called "metagaming" if you do

they to scared for inflation, they scared they might repeat the private labs issue, its not going to happen dream on, been waiting for 3 years now, they rather have is sing kumbaya in a public lab waiting to get shot and make the clappers mentality win. they hated it so much the put them on a pedestal

it would be fun to have an actual lifeinvader app on an actual smartphone, but that would promote metagaming probably very hard

- 1 i feel like we should definitely stand in line for 2 hours on a Saturday evening, to then figure out we still have tickets open and have to, go for another round +1000

i think the server needs a lot more than this, the life span of new player is a week or 2, sometimes they catch some more attention and they stay about 3 months, but max a year, I see people come and go so fast these days, all my long friends from years ago are gone, its getting lonely, the server population used to be 450-300, its only 200-240 max now, and I see it getting less and less, Im concerned that the server is on the losing end, mainly because of new players arent very much attracted anymore by not only the starting point but also the end goal is being drastically taken down, back then we would come in with big dreams and goals, now even being a crim is like being a salary busdriver, it used to be the driveforce of the server, people be doing wild stuff and being very creative with investing, now, its very bleak, so I think after already a hard start, they figure out that what used to be is no longer the case, they just leave.

I been waiting for 3years to grow weed in any place, i dont. Think its ever comming. They want us to sit in a lab waiting to get clapped by gangmembers, so they can convince themself that its RP, i can see the server population decline in the last 3 years”rp boom aside” they force us to be more in the open but the benefits are very minimal and for a selected few, i think if the server doesnt get it together it will die out in 2/3 years for sure

Its so enoying altho it got better since 3 years ago

i think its intentional, if this would be just like a burger then why would we go there and buy food,

it was even better, you had a reason to reinvest and it was a system that could make you grow bigger and bigger. it was a great capitalistic idea to reinvest more and more+ the risk to lose a lot. ppl made and kept long term connections, a lot of trade was going on, and a lot of benefits between gangs and solo crims. now a bf 400 pick some plants is as far as it gets in the drug game, it has no further expansion than that.

and it includes 0% RP and 100% abuse shitty behavior, ppl be waiting the just take advantage of the moment. it makes people bitter and soon it will happen to you and you will be the complaining person. careful what you wish for. because that will turn the server to shit. back in the day you could not even refill your car without someone jumping in and right out chop it in 7ish minutes. that got ppl sooooo bitter and resentfull

i think that rule would make plant pickers almost invincible, which is also not good, here is another thing, the gangs have become so competitive shootout baiters, that I don't want to be part of any of it, and I don't mind an escalating situation, but what is happening is rightout baiting for trouble and they go far as personal as possible to get it from you, in 4 years been in the city, and I feel less and less wanting to have anything to do with gangs because its so outrageous, and on top of that If I mess up, I get banned on top of that so yeah... forget about it, solo crim all the way and the gap only getting wider, and it makes people eventually leave. the life span is short to 3 months now, sometimes 6, max 12 if they commited. if this is the final developers goal, its a slow depressing decline to the end. the goal was to get ppl to unite in gangs, with a healthy environment and active RP, and get rid of the toxic clapper mentality, everyone should ask themself.. "did we get that result ?" solo crims took all the punches instead. when they where the actual ppl who made at least more rp happen than pvp. so pvp won.

but it was slower in private labs, it took 11 minutes to make one drug

as i proposed the idea to put those super cars into the credit store, and the next morning it literally happened. i was 1 of the 5 lucky ones who got to purchase the Italy GTO last january soon it became 1 of 3, since one was deported and one stopped coming in town. i think adding more supers to the credit store would shorten the lifespan of the player staying in the city. as hypocritical as I look right now, "since I got what I wanted". think if adding those cars or even the casino, makes ppl gives the feeling of final accomplishment. and so they get bored and stop playing the game. the 5 GTO's last January where a nice experiment, since only 2 of them where occasionally seen after the 3th month, the rest just fell off, I'm still very happy though with the cars I bought, I got the D10 and niobe later aswell. I'm not sure where to place the right judgement since I think anyone should have access to those cars. yet, if certain items like super cars, are more easy to access it kills the dream of having one simultaneous, and kills the feeling of purpose to obtain something very unique. owning a super car, casino, puts you very quickly into the " so whats next?" and it leaves a bit of a void. so this is a very big contradiction.

i think they mean the not bitcoin ones that be repossessed and put up for action, paying 250 dollar or euro just to have to taken away is real crazy XD, if the player never gets online what does that matter anyway

they took away the most exciting reason to to crim and that was to reinvest your earnings to grow bigger towards a kingpin mentality. that is what crim life is al about, taking risk, make good money, reinvest and repeat. they took this away for the main reason to create more RP, and also to reduce the toxic clapper mentality. none of those things actualized, the clapper mentality is still there, at least back then people kept long term connections to do great deals keeping it consistent, and friendships where actually made. now I feel like its everyone on themself minding their own business.

the only alternative i see, is make plants being able to plant them everywhere on the map. that way there is enough of product to move around in the limited labs available. which should become more open labs available in one timeframe. - many gangs+ individuals will be seeking those planting plants, = more journey exploring the map looking for RP that's active RP action taking. - prosperity is back in any class of crim life, from big gangs to solo crims - all product has to be moved towards those active labs = creates even more RP ONTOP of the planting overall in the map. i have literally laid out a plan that simple for 2 years already to the server. after 4 years of observation, THIS IS IT, people will go wild for this, and it will attract many more ppl, it is literally the reversed script from the private labs but with active RP, and PVP, but with more to win in all areas for everyone. i think the devs even know about this to this point but they scared to take the leap of faith. for a "possible" imbalance in the server. and that fear is holding back everyone

13 hours inside a house printing money, do you even read yourself ?. nobody spends 13 hours inside like that, its to boring, and its not even sustainable to keep that consistent, your just throwing numbers at this point, and none of your facts are valid. just stop talking. i suggest you try cook inside for 13 hours for 1 day, and you wont touch a table in month because its that tedious. also go and join those labs for a few weeks and see how it goes for you.... you will talk different about public labs and the mentality

suken was very smart for that move, i know how much was payd for but that's nobody's business , anyway I hope vajo finds himself a good deal. he's a great business man to, also my offer still stands, greetings your neighbour island owner